Trial Thread 8 May 2012 Wrapping up Closing Arguments

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Correction on earlier tweet Rafferty's car seen on video at 9:04 AM not pm

 

[robynhood]

AveryFreeFMNews "If Terri-Lynne McClintic left willingly with Tori why park down the street? Unless his intentions were not innocent at all?" #Rafferty

 

[robynhood]

...they are back form recess ..20 min break over But hang on fellow sleuthers as tweets are coming in slow at the moment...robynhood

 

[~n/t~]

I always worry when there is a pause in the tweets. LFP said they were back and now it's been 5 minutes without a tweet.

 

[JayFriend]

Strange that she is spotted when the defense was up but not when the Crown is speaking.

Clearly, the Defence's arguments were something she wanted to hear, but the Crown's closing arguments would be too hard for her to bear.

 

[~n/t~]

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
before break Crown:"If Victoria left willingly with TLM, why park down the street, unless his intentions were not innocent at all?"

 

[LoyalSleuth]

I saw yesterday on twitter that Derstine mentioned a "decision tree" or something like that, it will be given to the jury... Is anyone familiar with this?

I would love to see a sample... Also, does anyone know if this will be provided to the media as was all the evidence?

many thanks,
LS

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court "He minimized his exposure and maximized her exposure whenever possible"..tweeter .before BREAK

..something else came in on tweeter after break but NOt Posted yet to copy...real slow at the moment ...NOt sure ...why???

 

[LilyMacBloom]

TMHO....I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing!
Yesterday morning I got up so early feeling apprehension and just plain upset and that feeling stayed with me all through reading Def.

Somehow, today, I'm feeling pretty calm. (not that it matters how I feel)

I'll like Mr. Gowdy!!! he gives me the same feeling Det Smyth does. Very competent.

nd

 

[~n/t~]

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown attacking theory of McClintic as mastermind: "how could she target Tori on the very first day she would be walking home alone?

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Court is resumed jury still out

 

[~n/t~]

RaffertyLFP: Court is resumed jury still out [via Twitter]



*sigh*

 

[robynhood]

RaffertyLFP Court is resumed jury still out...just a few sec ago....

 

[Sailor Bug]

Mike Knoll: Here's Hank Daniszewski's morning update:
After years of investigation and more than two months of testimony, Crown Attorney Kevin Gowdey began his final argument Tuesday for convicting Michael Rafferty for the 2009 murder of eight-year-old Victoria (Tori) Stafford.
Gowdey told the jury that Rafferty and his former girlfriend Terri-LynneMcClintic "were in this together, together they are guilty."
Rafferty, 31, has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder, sexual assault and kidnapping in the death of the eight-year-old Woodstock school girl.
At the start of what is expected to be two days of argument, Gowdey told the jury that any kidnapping or sexual assault that leads to the death of the victim requires a conviction of first degree murder and Rafferty and McClintic collaborated.
"Even if Terri-Lynne McClintic was the one with the hammer, it doesn't matter," he said.
Rafferty drove around Oliver Stephens school and got gas for the long trip to Mount Forest. He parked at a nursing home parking lot because it was secluded and had easy access to Hwy 401, Gowdey said.
Gowdey said Rafferty "scoped out" Oliver Stephens school when his car was captured by a video camera at 9:04 a.m. on April 8, 2009.
Gowdey dismissed defense evidence of a Woodstock woman who said she saw McClintic enter the school and walk "sternly" up the hill with Tori.
It is unlikely that no one saw McClintic in the school and the woman had a faulty memory of McClintic's coat, he said.
Gowdey said it was unlikely that McClintic knew and targeted Tori because she had no way of knowing that it was Tori's first day walking home alone.
There was no evidence that Rafferty asked McClintic who Tori was and why she was in the car, he said.


court back in
RaffertyLFP: Gowdey resumes his final statement He says Rafferty was waiting for a "gift" and McClintic delivered it

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court "He minimized his exposure and maximized her exposure whenever possible"

said before break around 30 mins ago....Imo this is extremely TRUE....Rafferty set TLM up to be seen many times on camra...IMO again.

 

[CarrieBean]

I saw yesterday on twitter that Derstine mentioned a "decision tree" or something like that, it will be given to the jury... Is anyone familiar with this?

I would love to see a sample... Also, does anyone know if this will be provided to the media as was all the evidence?

many thanks,
LS

I think it's just like a flow chart. It lays everything down in front of them so they can see the whole picture. Helps with deliberations, I think.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Jury back.
Derstine suggested Tori was sexual a gift Rafferty refused. Gowdey disagrees.

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey questions why Tori was pushed into the car and hidden in the back seat Why wasn't Rafferty asking questions?

 

[Yody04]

Yes I am sure it is but not once while she was speaking yesterday did she give the McDonalds or the Staffords family her condolences or ask for justice for Tori. It was all about her son. She seems like a sweet lady and don't get my wrong I am not attacking in any ways but really MR and his Mother seem to be one of the same in many ways. Always concerned about themselves and family no one else might possible hurting. JMO

Yes I felt the same thing and was missing some something, anything towards the Stafford family yesterday.
But none of us knows (and hopefully never will) how the situations feels where she is in. She will have to say good bye to her son for a very long time (probably her lifetime) and from her point of view is everybody an enemy.
It makes me sick to my stomach how many people this two crazies hurt and ruined. As always jmoo

 

[Thinkzerz]

AM980_Court "He minimized his exposure and maximized her exposure whenever possible"..tweeter .before BREAK

..something else came in on tweeter after break but NOt Posted yet to copy...real slow at the moment ...NOt sure ...why???

I disagree with the crown. MR was on cam also that day. If MR was the master mind in this don't you think he would have been prepared? It was TLM that bought the hammer and bags. She needed his money to buy them and this is why she wasn't prepared. JMO

He is still guilty IMO because he helped clean up the crime and he isn't denying that.

 

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey asked why they took Hwy 59 route of town Because it would avoid going by Oliver Stephens school?

Gowdey notes Rafferty drove further to avoid driving past Oliver Stephens after Tori was kidnapped. Why do that?

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey asks How long would it take Rafferty to realize that Tori was in car against her will? When did the light go on?

RaffertyLFP: Gowdey said Rafferty didn't ask because he was the mastermind.