Trial Thread, May 1, 2012 Defense begins it case in chief

[Sailor Bug]

Carnegie says she was asked if she was certain if the woman in white was the same both sightings. Then she just said the jacket stuck out.

RaffertyLFP: The Crown asks about her police statement she made May 26 that she identified woman thru her jacket

 

[~n/t~]

So she saw a white coated woman stalking around the school and actually entering at some point.

She did not see the woman exit.

Victoria's teacher testified that she was in her line up with the other students. Victoria's teacher did not see this woman, nor did she see her talking with Victoria inside the school.

The witness could not see how Victoria and TLM ended up together because the school buses were blocking her view.

She saw them walking up the street when she finally exited the parking lot.

So how does this prove anything?

MOO

It doesn't prove anything. To me, it actually helps the Crown. She was stalking...looking for the "perfect" little girl for MR.

 

[Sailor Bug]

Carnegie says she was asked if she was certain if the woman in white was the same both sightings. Then she just said the jacket stuck out.

RaffertyLFP: The Crown asks about her police statement she made May 26 that she identified woman thru her jacket

 

[Oldsoul2]

RaffertyLFP: The woman is indicating on aerial photo where she saw the white-coated woman

RaffertyLFP: Woman said white-coated woman was walking briskly = appeared to be on a mission Tor i seemed like normal child

Ok we have video for that, what's the point here????

 

[Sailor Bug]

Carnegie says she was asked if she was certain if the woman in white was the same both sightings. Then she just said the jacket stuck out.

RaffertyLFP: The Crown asks about her police statement she made May 26 that she identified woman thru her jacket

Now she says the whole person was the same. Carnegie notes she was trying to be as helpful as possible.

Now she says she's sure the woman was the same. Notes now police "didn't ask" about the woman at the school in 2009.

She was one bus length away from the woman in white, she says.

RaffertyLFP: The Grandmom said she was one bus length away when she first saw white coat woman

 

[Sailor Bug]

Carnegie reading from her police statement.

RaffertyLFP: Crown reads police statement from May 26 from Grandmom that she was two bus lengths away

 

[Flowercb]

No doubt, lady, no doubt.

Have no fear, the public is on YOUR side.

No kidding. Even his own mother didn't come to his defense--that speaks volumes....MOO

 

[~n/t~]

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown now questioning witness about how far she was from front door of school when she saw white-coated woman walk in to school #sl


Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Witness being asked about identifying woman in white coat. Says she's sure it was same person who entered school #sl

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Crown asks witness about CASS surveillance video and her statement to police in 2009 #sl




Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Carnegie reads from transcript of 2nd interview with police where witness tells the police about the woman going into the school.

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Crown Attorney Carnegie cross examining the witness. Asks her why she didn't tell police about the woman going into the school.

 

[Wondergirl]

So, Derstine wanted it on record the Grandmother was not happy to testifying for the defense?

Obviously, he feels that it proves his point, that it goes against the Crown's theory.

Linda Nguyen‏@LindaNguyenPN

Last questions defence asked was if she knew #Rafferty, she says no. How does she feel about testifying for defence? "Not happy," she says

https://twitter.com/#

 

[Sailor Bug]

She was asked about the woman going in to the school. She notes there were two bus lengths between her and the woman (in 2009).

Carnegie notes it was less than two bus lengths, according to her. She says it was less.

RaffertyLFP: Grandmom said it was sunny and warm on April 8 too warm for ski jacket collar on jacket was up

 

[Salem]

10:44
RaffertyLFP:

She said white-coat woman was walking up the sidewalk stern-faced Tori was happy skipping [via Twitter]

So... she saw TLM go into school and not come out. Then as she drives away, she sees TLM and Tori walking up the street. Okay - but unless she has something about the parking lot, how does this help? There is video of them walking up the street?

I'm confused. Patience is not one of my virtures.....

Salem

 

[Thinkzerz]

Bet granny never saw a person with Puffy white jacket before or after April 8th. I believe her. VS knew TLM. JMO

 

[Wondergirl]

Did Grandma withold evidence, forget or ???

Avery Moore‏@AveryFreeFMNews

Crown Attorney Carnegie cross examining the witness. Asks her why she didn't tell police about the woman going into the school. #Rafferty

https://twitter.com/#

 

[Wondergirl]

Avery Moore‏@AveryFreeFMNews

Carnegie reads from transcript of 2nd interview with police where witness tells the police about the woman going into the school. #Rafferty

 

[crazyladi]

Poor old lady. Gawd. The lives that these people ruined makes me sick.. No one should have to be brought into this crap. I feel bad for each and every one of them.

And if that is all the defence has I am shocked, it makes no sense and Rafferty should have taken the stand but I know why he didnt, because he is GUILTY!!!

 

[Sillybilly]

IIRC, the person in the video who was waiting for their child was also wearing a coat, as was the child.

 

[Sailor Bug]

She notes it was too warm to be wearing a ski jacket on April 8th, 2009.

RaffertyLFP: The grandmom said it was a three tier puffy ski jacket too warm for the weather

RaffertyLFP: Grandmom said she remembers dark pants on the woman

She describes the jacket to the court.

 

[Flowercb]

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Derstine's questioning wraps. Michael Carnegie for Crown cross-examining witness now #sl

Steven D'Souza ‏ @cbcsteve
Derstine wraps with witness saying she doesn't know #Rafferty. Asked how she feels about testifying for defence, "I'm not happy" #sl



OMG! hahahahaha

Derstine is just trying to prove that the women wouldn't have made this "stuff" up because she is not pro-Rafferty. MOO

 

[robynhood]

AM980_Court The woman was walking briskly. The child "seemed to be happy". Witness assumed they were mother and daughter...robynhood another tweet said It seemed like the woman in white coat was on a MISSION ...walking briskly ...while chils walk slowly taking a mile a minute ...sorry all tweets could not be copied exactly ...I am sure other tweeters may post soon ...just got all that...robynhood

 

[Wondergirl]

.James Armstrong‏@jamesarmstrong7


Crown calls the jacket "a Michelin man" jacket. "not that puffy" says witness.



1m.James Armstrong‏@jamesarmstrong7


Witness says coat was "puffy" .



2m.James Armstrong‏@jamesarmstrong7


Witness says collar of jacket was up. #rafferty