Troubled country singer Mindy McCready, RIP

  • #461
I agree with the people who are saying,she should have left the dog alone.It could have been a huge comfort to her oldest son.I can't imagine telling your 6 yrs old that mommy is dead and so is the dog..what do you say to him when he says-how or why!
just heartbreaking all around!!
I'd tell him that his mother was very sick in the mind and that she took the dog for comfort. It wouldn't do any good to lie about the dog, because sooner or later, he'd find out. This is a messed up situation. And yes, it's Mindy's fault, but dang, this isn't normal. Something was seriously wrong with her. I'm so glad her kids had been removed. If she wanted to take someone with her though, she had plenty of chances with her dad. She didn't, so that's a good thing.
 
  • #462
Not making excuses for Mindy, because IDK, but maybe her view of the world was so harsh, that she thought the dog would be better off dead. Or maybe she thought she, David and the dog would be together again. Or maybe she was simply scared to go alone? IDK, but depression isn't just about being sad. Sometimes a depressed person hates himself so much that he lashes out at the ones who love him in an attempt to make them hate him too. Sometimes depression is about total self destruction. Her killing the dog is sad, but I don't think she killed him out of meanness. I think in her irrational mind, she had what she thought was a 'rational' reason. IMO, it looks like she was 'preparing' to be with David again, moo

I totally agree.
 
  • #463
Not making excuses for Mindy, because IDK, but maybe her view of the world was so harsh, that she thought the dog would be better off dead. Or maybe she thought she, David and the dog would be together again. Or maybe she was simply scared to go alone? IDK, but depression isn't just about being sad. Sometimes a depressed person hates himself so much that he lashes out at the ones who love him in an attempt to make them hate him too. Sometimes depression is about total self destruction. Her killing the dog is sad, but I don't think she killed him out of meanness. I think in her irrational mind, she had what she thought was a 'rational' reason. IMO, it looks like she was 'preparing' to be with David again, moo

Everything you listed is plausible,but there could be other reasons she killed the dog.Regardless of why, it was a very selfish act to take the life of an innocent loving loyal animal. I wonder if people would be less accepting of her actions if the life she had taken had been human.As much as I hate to 'say' it,it very well could have been her children that died with her.
I'm going to be very interested in the final results on the death of her boyfriend because I think that will answer many questions as to her death.
IMO
 
  • #464
Everything you listed is plausible,but there could be other reasons she killed the dog.Regardless of why, it was a very selfish act to take the life of an innocent loving loyal animal. I wonder if people would be less accepting of her actions if the life she had taken had been human.As much as I hate to 'say' it,it very well could have been her children that died with her.
I'm going to be very interested in the final results on the death of her boyfriend because I think that will answer many questions as to her death.
IMO
Well, I'd feel differently about a human, and I love my pets. But a child is a child and a dog is a dog. And yes, I think there's a good chance that she killed her boyfriend. I saw the today show interview, and even though she denied involvement, she wasn't believable, IMO. She was in so much pain and it was horrible, because I kept thinking that every time she opened her mouth, she was nailing another nail in her own coffin. Just the fact that she did the interview, was desperate, IMO. Nobody was really accusing her, (although there were a few rumblings), and she made her situation worse. Her stories were contradictory and outlandish and I really thought she would end up being charged. I've seen people lie about things like this before, (scott peterson), but this was different, because she didn't come across as a cold blooded murderer and her pain seemed genuine. It was a weird mix. Real, devastating pain, but also a certain calculation. The interviewer couldn't hide her shock at some of Mindy's answers, and honestly, my overall impression was that she was suicidal. I've never seen anything like it. Since the interview, I've checked the internet every day to see if she was alright, so when this happened, I wasn't surprised.
 
  • #465
Well, I'd feel differently about a human, and I love my pets. But a child is a child and a dog is a dog. And yes, I think there's a good chance that she killed her boyfriend. I saw the today show interview, and even though she denied involvement, she wasn't believable, IMO. She was in so much pain and it was horrible, because I kept thinking that every time she opened her mouth, she was nailing another nail in her own coffin. Just the fact that she did the interview, was desperate, IMO. Nobody was really accusing her, (although there were a few rumblings), and she made her situation worse. Her stories were contradictory and outlandish and I really thought she would end up being charged. I've seen people lie about things like this before, (scott peterson), but this was different, because she didn't come across as a cold blooded murderer and her pain seemed genuine. It was a weird mix. Real, devastating pain, but also a certain calculation. The interviewer couldn't hide her shock at some of Mindy's answers, and honestly, my overall impression was that she was suicidal. I've never seen anything like it. Since the interview, I've checked the internet every day to see if she was alright, so when this happened, I wasn't surprised.

My next post hopefully won't be about dogs,but every living being has a right to life,or in the case of an animal to have death meted out in a humane manner.Whatever her reasons for taking another life along with her own,the end results points to a person that is selfish in nature or thought.
Just the bit that I have seen of her in recent interviews struck me as a person that thrived on drama and attention.
I'm going to hold that thought or opinion until more information comes out about the death of her boyfriend.I think we can all draw conclusions from whatever comes to light in the future.
IMO
 
  • #466
About her speaking out on his death. Whether she had anything to do with David's death (and i just don't know so I'm just going to hope and pray and assume she didn't), she still would have had some major survivor's grief to deal with.

My fiance did not die at home and there was never a trace of doubt that I had anything to do with his death but i still felt at fault somehow. I had somehow failed to keep him safe (he had been in the hospital a few days before this and was under treatment) but I STILL felt there should have been something I could have done differently.

I hoped people didn't think I had failed him by sending to his mom's that night to rest while I painted our new apt. He was mine to love and keep safe and I somehow failed him. ( This was years ago and I have come to terms with it, am happily engaged again and know there was nothing i did wrong and in fact did the right thing by sending him to his moms. I'm so thankful they had that last night together. She loved him so much) But it took a lot of time and pain for me to get to that point. i was a mess for quite a while over it.

So for Mindy, it could have just been that the sudden shock and the uncertainty of what happened had her very badly shaken and out of her mind. Days of being unable to sleep, sleep deprivation, overwhelming shock and grief, trying to figure why this happened or how. You examine every inconsequential detail trying to understand why and how. You babble about it endlessly and obsess over it. You doubt the things you know and try to twist things to somehow fit and make sense of it all. I've been there so I have tremendous empathy for her situation. Just a truly tragic ending at the end of a long road for her. She finally is at peace.
 
  • #467
I hate that show. I don't think someone who really cares puts people in rehab on tv. Maybe entrance and exit interviews but not the rehab itself. I think it's taking advantage if someone in crisis.
I've never liked him. And don't watch him but to watch him blame everyone else for her death and not accept some blame for exposing her to it on his show is hypocritical to me.
 
  • #468
I think it says more about the 'rehab' part of the show when 5 people have died in the last 2 years that have been on it.
 
  • #469
I used to really like Dr Drew. used to.

Celebrity Rehab totally jumped the shark when it began.
What really did it for me was how vilified Mike Starr was in the way they edited the show. The guy was detoxing from many many drugs and substances. He was in serious pain and turmoil.
My understanding is Dr Drew doesn't use typical comfort meds for withdrawal.

I don't think Dr Drew is totally wrong in showing what he does in one way. I only hope Mindys seizures and Mikes endless vomiting turns one young person away from drugs.


But it almost focuses more on the drama between patients than the actual problem.

Withdrawal is painful, very very painful. Mental issues cannot be solved in a 30 day rehab...on tv.

Rest your mind now Mindy.
 
  • #470
Ok, here I go with something extremely personal but I'm getting angry reading this thread.

I suffer from major depression. My doctor has told me I have no coping skills. I'm on medication but there are times when it just doesn't help. I have a dog. He was a stray that no one wanted. I fell in love with him the first night I kept him (looking for a home for him). I used to sit on my porch and cry for him and for me. We weren't wanted. The times I thought about ending my life by sitting in my car in my garage, I thought about him sitting next to me. We were going together. I knew he would be a burden for the rest of my family, even my children, to take care of. It wasn't because I was mean or heartless. I love all animals (I've even stopped eating meat..well I haven't been able to give up chicken).

Mindy, probably thought as someone else said, that she, David and their dog would be together again. Maybe the oldest child wouldn't have been allowed to keep the dog. Didn't it belong to David? I feel like she felt like she was no good to her children, even the courts had pretty much said that. She didn't have David anymore. Stick around and endure more pain?? stick around and possibly screw up your children's lives even more.
Yes, suicide is selfish. Yes, it leave a trail of heartache. Some might say a legacy. But in all honesty, the person just wants the pain to stop. People believe in letting someone end their life when they have terminal cancer and are in physical pain...she was in mental, emotional and probably physical pain (withdrawals).
Give this woman a break! She's dead!
 
  • #471
Ok, here I go with something extremely personal but I'm getting angry reading this thread.

I suffer from major depression. My doctor has told me I have no coping skills. I'm on medication but there are times when it just doesn't help. I have a dog. He was a stray that no one wanted. I fell in love with him the first night I kept him (looking for a home for him). I used to sit on my porch and cry for him and for me. We weren't wanted. The times I thought about ending my life by sitting in my car in my garage, I thought about him sitting next to me. We were going together. I knew he would be a burden for the rest of my family, even my children, to take care of. It wasn't because I was mean or heartless. I love all animals (I've even stopped eating meat..well I haven't been able to give up chicken).

Mindy, probably thought as someone else said, that she, David and their dog would be together again. Maybe the oldest child wouldn't have been allowed to keep the dog. Didn't it belong to David? I feel like she felt like she was no good to her children, even the courts had pretty much said that. She didn't have David anymore. Stick around and endure more pain?? stick around and possibly screw up your children's lives even more.
Yes, suicide is selfish. Yes, it leave a trail of heartache. Some might say a legacy. But in all honesty, the person just wants the pain to stop. People believe in letting someone end their life when they have terminal cancer and are in physical pain...she was in mental, emotional and probably physical pain (withdrawals).
Give this woman a break! She's dead!

Amen Sista!

And I pray for the best for you.
 
  • #472
I think it says more about the 'rehab' part of the show when 5 people have died in the last 2 years that have been on it.

Many addicts end up dead after rehab. It's the nature of the beast of addiction.
 
  • #473
Ok, here I go with something extremely personal but I'm getting angry reading this thread.

I suffer from major depression. My doctor has told me I have no coping skills. I'm on medication but there are times when it just doesn't help. I have a dog. He was a stray that no one wanted. I fell in love with him the first night I kept him (looking for a home for him). I used to sit on my porch and cry for him and for me. We weren't wanted. The times I thought about ending my life by sitting in my car in my garage, I thought about him sitting next to me. We were going together. I knew he would be a burden for the rest of my family, even my children, to take care of. It wasn't because I was mean or heartless. I love all animals (I've even stopped eating meat..well I haven't been able to give up chicken).

Mindy, probably thought as someone else said, that she, David and their dog would be together again. Maybe the oldest child wouldn't have been allowed to keep the dog. Didn't it belong to David? I feel like she felt like she was no good to her children, even the courts had pretty much said that. She didn't have David anymore. Stick around and endure more pain?? stick around and possibly screw up your children's lives even more.
Yes, suicide is selfish. Yes, it leave a trail of heartache. Some might say a legacy. But in all honesty, the person just wants the pain to stop. People believe in letting someone end their life when they have terminal cancer and are in physical pain...she was in mental, emotional and probably physical pain (withdrawals).
Give this woman a break! She's dead!

I'm guessing that my posts may have been the ones to cause anger and if so I'm sorry.It was never my intention to cause upset to anyone and I know that I may be coming across as harsh but it may be because I do understand more than some might think about depression and drugs.
I would like to let you know that I'm glad that you're hanging in there if for nothing else but your pet.
He needs you to care for him.
And I will just add that nothing Mindy could have done in the future would cause more pain for her children than her death.

IMO

p.s...vegetarian here as well.
 
  • #474
^^^^
This is exactly what I've been thinking about Dr. Drew all farking day. He is such a jerk. Saying that it didn't have to end this way, imagine how Mindy's dad is feeling, just leaving her on Sunday morning to go home. Dr. Drew needs to STFU.
Did Dr Drew try to contact her after hr boyfriend was shot? Because this woman was at rock bottom and if he was paying attention, there's no way he couldn't see it. She entered a rehab/mental hospital but was only there for a couple of days. Did Dr Drew rush to Arkansas or at least call her? IDK if he did or not, but People on magazine boards were pleading with her friends to get her kids away and to do what they had to do to get her in a hospital. If we could see what kind of shape she was in, he, as a professional, should have seen. He says this didn't have to end this way? Well, how did he expect it to end? It ended exactly like I expected, except she didn't take her kids with her. If he didn't try to help when she was at her lowest, he shouldn't judge or comment now. Celebrity Rehab is a weird show, and these people are in a unique situation with Dr Drew. It's not like a regular rehab. When the cameras stop rolling and they're finished exploiting these sick people, IMO, they should feel the responsibility to follow up and stay in touch.
 
  • #475
When I say 'unique' situation, this is what I mean? How can they expect to help addicts when the cameras are rolling, and they're sitting next to a famous rock star or famous actress? They're 'on' and performing. How can they let their walls down and just be regular people with regular problems, in this kind of environment? Addiction isn't special when it happens to a celebrity and the celebrities shouldn't be treated as special. And IDK, but do they get paid for doing the show? If they do, even if it's in the form of perks, then there's no way for these people to see themselves as regular human beings with regular human problems.
 
  • #476
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/02/19/source-mindy-mccready-dog-shooting-not-act-malice/

Source: Mindy McCready dog shooting not 'act of malice'


“She didn’t really have a support network and coming home to an empty house seems to be what really did it,” the source continued. “It is tragic. She was a sweet and kind girl at heart.”

However, since her death much has been made over revelations that McCready shot her dog before allegedly turning the gun on herself.

“Mindy really loved her dog and that would not have been an act of malice at all,” the pal insisted. “It would have been more of a case where she just didn’t want to leave the dog alone.”
 
  • #477
Lead me not into temptation
Heaven help me to be strong
I can fight all that I'm feeling
But I can't do it alone
Help me break this spell that I'm under
Guide my feet and hold me tight
I need 10,0000 Angels watching over me tonight

Mindy McCready
Ten Thousand Angels

:(
 
  • #478
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/02/19/source-mindy-mccready-dog-shooting-not-act-malice/

Source: Mindy McCready dog shooting not 'act of malice'


“She didn’t really have a support network and coming home to an empty house seems to be what really did it,” the source continued. “It is tragic. She was a sweet and kind girl at heart.”

However, since her death much has been made over revelations that McCready shot her dog before allegedly turning the gun on herself.

“Mindy really loved her dog and that would not have been an act of malice at all,” the pal insisted. “It would have been more of a case where she just didn’t want to leave the dog alone.”

So she didn't want to leave the dog alone so it was really a kindness on her part to blow his brains out.That is some spin on the part of her friend and it seems her fans.Thank god we have laws to protect animals from this sort of thinking.
In her circle of celebrity friends someone would have given that dog a home,or she could have taken him or her to a vet to be put down in a humane setting.
Does anyone have any information on how Mindy was able to have a gun considering her issues with mental illness?
IMO
 
  • #479
So she didn't want to leave the dog alone so it was really a kindness on her part to blow his brains out.That is some spin on the part of her friend and it seems her fans.Thank god we have laws to protect animals from this sort of thinking.
In her circle of celebrity friends someone would have given that dog a home,or she could have taken him or her to a vet to be put down in a humane setting.
Does anyone have any information on how Mindy was able to have a gun considering her issues with mental illness?
IMO

I don't consider opinion to be spin.
 
  • #480
Not sure if this has been reported. Not trying to over analyze what she is saying, but her report of the events does not make sense. If his brains were all over the floor, then I don't believe he would be grabbing at her and trying to talk.

This call was recorded with her knowledge the day before her death. She knew it was being recorded when she said the following:

Mindy McCready's call recorded: Describes David's 'brains all over the floor'

..."He was lying on the ground with his brains all over the floor," McCready says. "And then I held him and I kissed him and I told him I forgave him. And I said, 'David, none of this means anything. You didn't have to do this. Please, don't die. Please. We love you so much. Please don't die."...

http://www.examiner.com/article/min...d-describes-david-s-brains-all-over-the-floor
 

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