Troubled country singer Mindy McCready, RIP

[lizzybeth]

I'm guessing that my posts may have been the ones to cause anger and if so I'm sorry.It was never my intention to cause upset to anyone and I know that I may be coming across as harsh but it may be because I do understand more than some might think about depression and drugs.
I would like to let you know that I'm glad that you're hanging in there if for nothing else but your pet.
He needs you to care for him.
And I will just add that nothing Mindy could have done in the future would cause more pain for her children than her death.

IMO

p.s...vegetarian here as well.

Yes, it was your posts. I accept your apology. While I never used drugs (not even pot), I know more than I want to about depression. My father completed suicide after suffering from untreated depression since he was a child, same here. I can remember wanting to die at the age of five. I also volunteer for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (Out of the Darkness Walk). I guess we just understand it in different ways.

Yes, her death will cause problems for her children. I hope they have a good support system, a good mental health professional to help them deal with this. Depression sometimes runs in families so they need to be watched. If she couldn't get herself clean and mentally healthy she would hurt them by living. They would worry about her constantly. They would be scared for her, scared for themselves. Their whole lives could have been dealing with a drug abusing, mentally ill mother. I'm not advocated suicide (although it may sound that way).

I just don't understand why the harping on her dog. Yes, it would have been better if she had left the dog to live. I, nor anyone else, should claim to know what exactly she was thinking at that time. She's suffering from withdrawals, it seems the world has turned against her, David is gone...

I don't think it's in my best interest to come back to this thread so I just want to say RIP Mindy, David and I'm sorry I don't know her furbaby's name, but the the same for him.

 

[belimom]

Mindy McCready died in a 'perfect storm'


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/19/showbiz/mindy-mccready/

"Saturday was a very bad day for her," Hanks said.

McCready, 37, told him about an e-mail she received on Friday from the Arkansas Department of Human Services' Division of Children and Family Services that included a proposed court order that would send her two children to live with her mother in Florida.

"The proposed court order was the nail in her coffin, the thing that sent her over the edge," Hanks said.



*from following Mindy for the past few years I can see that proposed court order sending her over the edge.
She DID NOT want her mother to have her children.

bbm

I understand that she must've felt hopeless at this point. Too bad she couldn't have decided to fight to get better in order to eventually get them back rather than taking her own life. I think she was just ill equipped to deal with her life as it had become. So sad.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://m.arkansasonline.com/news/2013/feb/20/crime-lab-confirms-mccready-death-suicide/


Crime Lab confirms McCready death a suicide

 

[kimlynn]

Yes, it was your posts. I accept your apology. While I never used drugs (not even pot), I know more than I want to about depression. My father completed suicide after suffering from untreated depression since he was a child, same here. I can remember wanting to die at the age of five. I also volunteer for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (Out of the Darkness Walk). I guess we just understand it in different ways.

Yes, her death will cause problems for her children. I hope they have a good support system, a good mental health professional to help them deal with this. Depression sometimes runs in families so they need to be watched. If she couldn't get herself clean and mentally healthy she would hurt them by living. They would worry about her constantly. They would be scared for her, scared for themselves. Their whole lives could have been dealing with a drug abusing, mentally ill mother. I'm not advocated suicide (although it may sound that way).

I just don't understand why the harping on her dog. Yes, it would have been better if she had left the dog to live. I, nor anyone else, should claim to know what exactly she was thinking at that time. She's suffering from withdrawals, it seems the world has turned against her, David is gone...

I don't think it's in my best interest to come back to this thread so I just want to say RIP Mindy, David and I'm sorry I don't know her furbaby's name, but the the same for him.

Thank you for accepting my apology.I really am sincere in not wanting to cause distress or anger,but felt the need to express my feelings or opinions,as do we all.
I do understand the pain that comes with severe depression and know that drug usage only exacerbates those feelings.I lost a very good friend to suicide a few years back.
The reason that I 'harp' on the dog issue is because I care about animals.I have read comments (on other media sites) that seem to express the view that Mindy was doing a 'kindness to the dog,she didn't want it to be alone,and it really wasn't that big of a deal,and why are people so upset about a dog,because she was in pain.she wasn't thinking rationally' and so on.
I have a feeling that people are so enthralled by her celebrity and the pain caused by her death that they are willing to overlook the death of what may appear to them as a lesser life form.
I have spent a large part of my life caring for,and trying to educate people on proper care of pets and strays.What she did isn't okay.It was selfish and cruel.
I'm aware that she may have acted due to ignorance or an altered mental state,but I will never accept that it was okay because....*insert reason here*
I promise to limit my harping until the need arises again.lol

 

[SwampMama]

This is just so incredibly sad. I didn't know that she was taken for gsr test instead of being able to be with her dead/dying boyfriend. Now it emerges that she wasn't a suspect so it seems she was just a victim of circumstances.

To me it is telling that she chose the porch and a gun as her final exit plan. That is how her bf died and she went the same way. I guess in her mind, she went to be with him. They had already taken her kids away, obviously it seemed the state and the world was feeling that the kids were better off without her and so she probably thought they were better off without her.

To me, I still just see her in a totally empathetic way. I don't wonder much what she was thinking or how she was feeling, I went thru it with my fiance's unexpected death (not a suicide). I figure she had lost her kids, didn't have the strength to keep fighting the world and the rumors. She just wanted it to be over and be with her bf.

Dr Drew is a sickening parasite who exploits addicts pain for his own gain and fame. I watched celebrity rehab because of the people on it, not because of him. If he really gave a carp about Mindy, he would have gone to see her, not just talk to her briefly and then go on a publicity marathon for himself, talking about her.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Cleburne County Sheriff Marty Moss told E! News that McCready did not leave a suicide note and this is still an "ongoing investigation."

http://iphone.eonline.com/article?id=389913

Same thing they said about her boyfriend's death.

Investigated as a suicide but still an ongoing investigation.

 

[TheDuchess]

http://m.arkansasonline.com/news/2013/feb/20/crime-lab-confirms-mccready-death-suicide/


Crime Lab confirms McCready death a suicide

That was awfully quick...considering we still haven't received the same confirmation on her boyfriend's death after a month!

 

[belimom]

That was awfully quick...considering we still haven't received the same confirmation on her boyfriend's death after a month!

I think for one, she was apparently alone. They knew that he wasn't - that she was in the house when he was shot (either by himself, by her, or by whoever).

I don't believe LE ever said that MM was *not* a suspect in her BF's death or that she *was* a suspect. I just think they said it's ongoing. If she told her camp that he committed suicide, then they are going to naturally believe her. OTOH, LE has to consider all angles.

 

[kimlynn]

The fact that LE made it such a point to say that they hadn't made a ruling on the death of Wilson as a suicide makes me wonder what is holding up their coming to a conclusion.
Could a tox screen ( if taken) be taking that long to come back from the lab?
I'm wondering if we will get an undetermined since Mindy is now gone and unable to shed any more light on the investigation.
Could be that they will close it out as undetermined or suicide for the sake of the surviving (children) family members.

IMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The fact that LE made it such a point to say that they hadn't made a ruling on the death of Wilson as a suicide makes me wonder what is holding up their coming to a conclusion.
Could a tox screen ( if taken) be taking that long to come back from the lab?
I'm wondering if we will get an undetermined since Mindy is now gone and unable to shed any more light on the investigation.
Could be that they will close it out as undetermined or suicide for the sake of the surviving (children) family members.

IMO

They have said the same thing about Mindy's. It's still an ongoing investigation.
Maybe it's standard operating procedure.

I do not think they will just close it out as undetermined or suicide for the sake of surviving family.
I think it is their duty to investigate both deaths fully, report the facts, and make official determinations in each case. I think LE takes that duty seriously.

JMO

 

[kimlynn]

They have said the same thing about Mindy's. It's still an ongoing investigation.
Maybe it's standard operating procedure.

I do not think they will just close it out as undetermined or suicide for the sake of surviving family.
I think it is their duty to investigate both deaths fully, report the facts, and make official determinations in each case. I think LE takes that duty seriously.

JMO

Correct.Both are ongoing investigations.The difference is that preliminary findings indicate that Mindy died as a result of suicide.So far we have LE saying that a McCready Rep said that Wilson died of a self inflicted gunshot wound and LE said that they haven't come to any ruling yet.
So at this point it seems to me that LE can't determine as of yet if Wilson died by his own hand.
I agree that it is the job of LE and the medical examiner to investigate and report their findings,but if David Wilson was found to have been killed,what good would come out of making this information public?
His family and friends may push for truthful results,or they may pressure authorities to rule undetermined or suicide due to the fact that he has a child with McCready.
I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time a death certificate wasn't clear cut due to celebrity or the wishes of family.
Not saying this will happen but IMO it could.
IMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I disagree.

The cause of death will be official and on a legal document.

IMO it will be true and correct as to the findings of the investigation.

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think for one, she was apparently alone. They knew that he wasn't - that she was in the house when he was shot (either by himself, by her, or by whoever).

I don't believe LE ever said that MM was *not* a suspect in her BF's death or that she *was* a suspect. I just think they said it's ongoing. If she told her camp that he committed suicide, then they are going to naturally believe her. OTOH, LE has to consider all angles.

Actually the sheriff said she was never considered a suspect or even a person of interest...

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2013/02/19/mindy-mccready-boyfriend-death-suspect-sheriff-marty-moss

Sheriff Marty Moss tells us, that's just not true -- "Mindy never changed her story."

Ross says Mindy was never considered a suspect or even a person of interest in David's death.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Not sure if this has been reported. Not trying to over analyze what she is saying, but her report of the events does not make sense. If his brains were all over the floor, then I don't believe he would be grabbing at her and trying to talk.

This call was recorded with her knowledge the day before her death. She knew it was being recorded when she said the following:

Is the Examiner or anyone who writes for it really reputable/trustworthy? I always thought the Examiner was a sensationalistic tabloid in the same league as The National Enquirer.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Interesting (and sad) read IMO

http://m.aol.com/music/blog/theboot/2013/02/20/mindy-mccready-book/

Mindy McCready Book Plans: Singer Was Writing 'Comeback Story' Before Her Death

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://youtu.be/i0xMtyUcwb0

Beautiful song

She was awesomely talented.

 

[Hopeful One]

Mindy's phone call to friend days before her suicide. "The point of me living is waiting to die."

I have one question about this - why would her friend record her call?? I don't get it.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/mindy-mccready-suicide-audio-tapes-reveal-devastated-singer-couldnt-live-without-soul-mate-david-wilson/

 

[belimom]

Actually the sheriff said she was never considered a suspect or even a person of interest...

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2013/02/19/mindy-mccready-boyfriend-death-suspect-sheriff-marty-moss

Sheriff Marty Moss tells us, that's just not true -- "Mindy never changed her story."

Ross says Mindy was never considered a suspect or even a person of interest in David's death.

But is there an actual quote from Moss - or just reporters saying 'this is what he said'?

 

[wfgodot]

Mindy's phone call to friend days before her suicide. "The point of me living is waiting to die."

I have one question about this - why would her friend record her call?? I don't get it.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/mindy-mccready-suicide-audio-tapes-reveal-devastated-singer-couldnt-live-without-soul-mate-david-wilson/

"The point of me living is waiting to die" is a haunting line, one that belongs in a very dark song.

 

[OneLove]

Mindy's phone call to friend days before her suicide. "The point of me living is waiting to die."

I have one question about this - why would her friend record her call?? I don't get it.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...-couldnt-live-without-soul-mate-david-wilson/

I'm guessing those who were close to her sensed the end was near. Mindy, bless her soul, made many comments recently that indicated that. In addition to that, I'm sure those closest to her knew she had already attempted to take her life several times before.

I don't know what was in the mind/heart of this friend who recorded the conversation, but I can think of several possibilities that are not greed or fame related.

Maybe she wanted to be able to play it for a third party who could then see how distressed she was and could help her.

Maybe she feared Mindy being successful in her next suicide attempt and, knowing her number would show in the records as a recent contact, wanted to be able to verify absolutely what the conversation was so there would be no lifelong doubts, rumors, and insinuations cast upon her 'role' in Mindy's illness.

It is so sad for them all, especially for two totally innocent children. I wish her love for her children had been strong enough to give her motivation to stay and do the hard work to heal. The burdens that troubled her heart must have had truly enormous depth and a very tight hold. I do hope she is at peace and that angels guard her children throughout their lives without her.