TURKEY - George Smith, 26, missing from cruise ship, July 2005

[mysteriew]

Does anyone else think it's odd that this guy retained an attorney?

Yes, I think it is odd- but a lot of people have been doing that in the last few years, even when they have been proved not guilty. That in itself is odd, but not specific to guilt.

 

[lostfaith]

Does anyone else think it's odd that this guy retained an attorney?

I do not think it is odd. In this day and age, if I was TOTALLY inocent, I would get an attorney. I would cooperate fully, but I would still get an attorney.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Does anyone else think it's odd that this guy retained an attorney?

Heck, not me............I'd holler for one even though I was innocent!

To me that would be the first thing anyone who may be implicated in ANY way would do.

JMO here guys

 

[Olivia77]

Whoa nelly! I never said this guy was guilty simply because he retained an attorney. But as far as we know, he's the only one who has done so in this case.

Where was it stated that this person was "implicated" in the crime? If that's the case, heck yes I'd have an atty too, but since he's the only one thus far out of allll those people on that big ship, I still think it's odd.

 

[mysteriew]

On a sweltering July morning, the Turkish port of Kusadasi swarmed with thousands of people.

The popular Aegean harbor was host to seven cruise ships that morning. While passengers lined up to leave the vessels, vendors and tourist guides stood by the harbor, eagerly waiting their arrival.

"There were over 13,000 people in Kusadasi on July 5th. All of them were from cruise ships," Turkish tour guide Levent Solmaz said in an e-mail. The "ancient ruins of Ephesus was very busy and I was told that the merchants in the downtown were very happy. The following day, our newspapers mentioned about this exceptional crowd. It really is a big deal when these cruise ships call Kusadasi harbor."

Few people knew about it at the time, but as cruise ship passengers poured into Kusadasi, the captain of Royal Caribbean International's Brilliance of the Seas called Turkish police at 9:30 a.m.
http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/l...,822287.story?coll=green-news-local-headlines

 

[Amraann]

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4858518/detail.html

(picture of couple at link)

*snip
In a confusing interrogation, Turkish authorities question cruise passenger Josh Askin, 20, about the missing honeymooner, George Smith. The tape was made on the same day Smith was reported missing.


On the videotape, Askin explains to an interpreter that he and three other men were with Smith shortly before he disappeared during the Mediterranean cruise.

 

[Amraann]

http://people.aol.com/people/articles/0,19736,1090420,00.html

*snip
There has been a potential break in the mystery of George Smith IV, who was on a 12-night Mediterranean honeymoon cruise with his new bride when he vanished between Greece and Turkey on July 5.

Some people of interest have apparently emerged in the case, in particular two Russian men who live in New York and a California teen, all of whom were onboard reputedly partying with Smith right before his disappearance, NBC News reports.

 

[Amraann]

http://www.acurrentaffair.com/reports/index_1.php

Here are some pictures of the couple and the cruise ship including the blood stain.

Please add further pictures here

 

[T'sNana]

I sure hope they can shed some light on this. For a(nother) so-called happy occasion, it sure turned out to be a nightmare.

 

[Lesleegp]

I heard about these people about two weeks ago. All three say they have no idea what happened to him. They returned with him to his cabin during the night and left him there. At the time they left, he was alive and well, just drunk. They say his wife was passed out in a bar somewhere on the boat.

 

[Olivia77]

Is this the same California resident who has retained an attorney?

 

[nanandjim]

I would like to hear what everyone's theory is as to what happened that night.

The 20-year-old guy laid out the scenario as to what was going on that night. He said that they brought George back to the room and Jennifer wasn't there. They helped George look for her, but they couldn't find her. They then brought George back to the room and put him to bed. He further stated that Jennifer was with the casino manager.

Could it be possible that the casino manager later brought Jennifer back to her room and George awoke and got into a physical altercation with the guy, which led to the casino manager pulling a knife and cutting George?

Jennifer could have been the woman's voice heard screaming. Maybe, she screamed when a fight initially broke out and ran out of the room. So, she was not there to witness what else went on.

The lawyer for the kid said that Jennifer was seen in the same clothes from the night before. So, she could have left the room, laid down on a deck chair and fell asleep until morning. The casino manager may have taken her back to his room and took advantage of her during the time that she was "missing."

Blood was on the bed and on a towel. So, perhaps, George got the towel to stop the bleeding. The casino manager knew that he was in trouble. So, he decided it would be better to get rid of George than to have charges pressed against him and end up in jail.

So, at this point, I'm thinking the casino manager killed George and threw him overboard.

 

[lisafremont]

But nanandjim, he would have had to had help. The photo of the bloodstain on the awning clearly shows no drag marks. A ship that big didn't roll. He would have had to have been picked up and pushed and he was big so it couldn't have been Jennifer and I don't think one man could have done it.

 

[nanandjim]

But nanandjim, he would have had to had help. The photo of the bloodstain on the awning clearly shows no drag marks. A ship that big didn't roll. He would have had to have been picked up and pushed and he was big so it couldn't have been Jennifer and I don't think one man could have done it.

If George was very drunk, couldn't one guy have stabbed him and shoved him off the balcony? If the balcony was slanted and smooth, couldn't he have slipped off the ship from there?

 

[lilpony]

If George was very drunk, couldn't one guy have stabbed him and shoved him off the balcony? If the balcony was slanted and smooth, couldn't he have slipped off the ship from there?

But, the balconies have railings. He would have had to pick him up lift him at least to his shoulders, and thrown him over. I think for one person to do this, would be very hard.

 

[nanandjim]

But, the balconies have railings. He would have had to pick him up lift him at least to his shoulders, and thrown him over. I think for one person to do this, would be very hard.

Wasn't there blood on the railing? I still think one person (if big enough) could do it.

That Duncan guy tied up, murdered three people and abducted two children--and he was a pretty small guy.

 

[MrsMush99]

Here are a couple of links I found:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8659573/

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/topstories_story_213140853.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/01/earlyshow/main712989.shtml

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1345

 

[lilpony]

Wasn't there blood on the railing? I still think one person (if big enough) could do it.

That Duncan guy tied up, murdered three people and abducted two children--and he was a pretty small guy.

Oh, I agree, I think it could be done. Where theres a will theres a way!! I don't recall if the railing had blood on it or not. I know the awning below had blood on it. He probably bounced off that awing and into the water. What a horrible thought, knowing your going in the middle of the ocean. Talk about horror.

 

[aussieblue]

hmmmmmmmmm that looks to be a lot of blood

:waitasec: this is a very wierd and sad event

ty for the pics/link

~aussieblue

 

[LinasK]

I stated on the other thread prior to this forum that I thinking the drinking buddies were after the wife sexually and got rid of George by stabbing him and tossing him over the railing to get rid of their obstacle to get to her, or else he came in on them sexually in the room and there was a fight over her.