TX - 10 deceased as a result of crowd surge at Astroworld festival, Houston, 5 Nov 2021

[Mrs G Norris]

So TS hasn’t visited any of the victims from this in hospital at all?

 

[Luna20]

A bit of pushback from TS side. They must have ignored the many artist who have stopped their events if/when necessary.


“Despite criticism from officials in Houston, Travis Scott's spokesperson and former Baltimore mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, told "CBS Mornings" on Friday that the idea that Scott could have halted the Astroworld music festival is "ludicrous."

"They have a 59-page operations plan, and it clearly says the only two people that are, have the authority to stop the concert, were the executive producer and the concert producer. He was not responsible for this, but he wants to be responsible for the solution," said Rawlings-Blake”

POLICE
"The artist, if he notices something that's going on, he can certainly pause that performance, turn on the lights and say, 'Hey, we're not going to continue until this thing is resolved,' Houston's fire chief Samuel Peña told NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday”


Travis Scott had no authority to stop concert, spokesperson says

 

[Gardenista]

Leaked Houston firefighter logs offer minute-by-minute look into Astroworld tragedy

 

[al66pine]

Travis Scott's Communications?

Maybe he’s scared to reach out too to them and how would he have their contact information?... different for Ariana Grande as she wasn’t being held responsible in the eyes of the public. I’m sure he knows he’s probably going to lose everything and he already has lost a lot. We don’t know how he feels.

@Marysmith sbm Agreeing re your point about Ariana Grande performance being different. Suicide bomber's explosion occurred after performance, in lobby as audience was leaving. AG did not encourage attendees to rage or rush the stage; she had no chance to prevent.*

Respectfully disagreeing re these.
---"scared to reach out"? Imo, just following advice of his PR & legal counsel's advice to release a sympathetic but bland public stmt, deflecting blame thru his reps.
And most recent stmt was made thru his reps, not him. Direct communications w family, victims, & fans would be a field of landmines that could be used against him & affiliates in lawsuits.
Didn't he say on SM (Twitter or IG?) I wanna get to the bottom of this to find out what happened? (my paraphrasing) Crowd rushes/surges already happened at two of his events where he incited adience to rage/to rush the stage, etc. He pleaded guilty to crim charges.** Yet his stmt suggests the cause of deaths & injuries this time absolutely mystified him? Baffled him? Sorry, not buying it.
--- getting "contact information"? Re families of deceased fans, since names of the deceased have been made public, how difficult could it be to locate them?
Names of some hospitalized fans were also released.

And
--- "probably going to lose everything"?
--- "he already has lost a lot."
Not sure what kind of loss these refer to.

And
---"We don’t know how he feels."
Agreed, we do not know. my2ct.
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* Manchester Arena bombing - Wikipedia
** "Well before the deadly chaos at his Astroworld music festival, Travis Scott had pleaded guilty to criminal charges related to two concerts where authorities said the rapper encouraged fans to rush the stage." bbm
^ Travis Scott pleaded guilty to charges in a 2015 incident at Lollapalooza and a 2017 concert in Arkansas where police said he encouraged fans to rush the stage

 

[JerseyGirl]

A bit of pushback from TS side. They must have ignored the many artist who have stopped their events if/when necessary.


“Despite criticism from officials in Houston, Travis Scott's spokesperson and former Baltimore mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, told "CBS Mornings" on Friday that the idea that Scott could have halted the Astroworld music festival is "ludicrous."

"They have a 59-page operations plan, and it clearly says the only two people that are, have the authority to stop the concert, were the executive producer and the concert producer. He was not responsible for this, but he wants to be responsible for the solution," said Rawlings-Blake”

POLICE
"The artist, if he notices something that's going on, he can certainly pause that performance, turn on the lights and say, 'Hey, we're not going to continue until this thing is resolved,' Houston's fire chief Samuel Peña told NBC's "Today" show on Tuesday”


Travis Scott had no authority to stop concert, spokesperson says

Travis Scott's new spokeswoman calls idea he could have stopped Astroworld 'ludicrous'

 

[Marysmith]

Travis Scott's Communications?
@Marysmith sbm Agreeing re your point about Ariana Grande performance being different. Suicide bomber's explosion occurred after performance, in lobby as audience was leaving. AG did not encourage attendees to rage or rush the stage; she had no chance to prevent.*

Respectfully disagreeing re these.
---"scared to reach out"? Imo, just following advice of his PR & legal counsel's advice to release a sympathetic but bland public stmt, deflecting blame thru his reps.
And most recent stmt was made thru his reps, not him. Direct communications w family, victims, & fans would be a field of landmines that could be used against him & affiliates in lawsuits.
Didn't he say on SM (Twitter or IG?) I wanna get to the bottom of this to find out what happened? (my paraphrasing) Crowd rushes/surges already happened at two of his events where he incited adience to rage/to rush the stage, etc. He pleaded guilty to crim charges.** Yet his stmt suggests the cause of deaths & injuries this time absolutely mystified him? Baffled him? Sorry, not buying it.
--- getting "contact information"? Re families of deceased fans, since names of the deceased have been made public, how difficult could it be to locate them?
Names of some hospitalized fans were also released.

And
--- "probably going to lose everything"?
--- "he already has lost a lot."
Not sure what kind of loss these refer to.

And
---"We don’t know how he feels."
Agreed, we do not know. my2ct.
__________________
* Manchester Arena bombing - Wikipedia
** "Well before the deadly chaos at his Astroworld music festival, Travis Scott had pleaded guilty to criminal charges related to two concerts where authorities said the rapper encouraged fans to rush the stage." bbm
^ Travis Scott pleaded guilty to charges in a 2015 incident at Lollapalooza and a 2017 concert in Arkansas where police said he encouraged fans to rush the stage

I hear you. I want to think the best of him but of course understand that this could all be PR as well. We don’t know. It’s a tragic situation no matter what.

 

[KMouse]

So TS hasn’t visited any of the victims from this in hospital at all?

Who is left in the hospital besides the 9 y/o little boy? If TS showed up at my child's bedside I would be in jail.

 

[La Louve]

Travis Scott's new spokeswoman calls idea he could have stopped Astroworld 'ludicrous'

What a load of spin that is. He's the headliner, on center stage, with the majority of the attention, and a microphone to communicate to everyone. He absolutely could have stopped performing, got the lights brought up and told the crowd to back up. We've seen documented evidence that performers have done this.

Truth is, IMHO, he didn't WANT to stop the show.

 

[La Louve]

Who is left in the hospital besides the 9 y/o little boy? If TS showed up at my child's bedside I would be in jail.

It's been reported that many were injured. I expect many of the injured are still in hospital.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Leaked Houston firefighter logs offer minute-by-minute look into Astroworld tragedy

9 fatalities from the firefighter logs? Did the media miss one? Someone miscount?

 

[La Louve]

9 fatalities from the firefighter logs? Did the media miss one? Someone miscount?

Sadly the death count has increased. Another victim, 22 y. o. Bharti Shahani, passed away last night after being declared brain dead earlier in the week.

I have read in passing it was her first concert.
Astroworld victim Bharti Shahani dies nearly a week after crowd surge that killed 8 others

ETA I see now you are referring to the logs from the evening. Not sure if there was a miscount or not.

 

[Luna20]

What a load of spin that is. He's the headliner, on center stage, with the majority of the attention, and a microphone to communicate to everyone. He absolutely could have stopped performing, got the lights brought up and told the crowd to back up. We've seen documented evidence that performers have done this.

Truth is, IMHO, he didn't WANT to stop the show.

Total Spin! I don’t think this train of thought will spin the way he would like it to. The guy has a history that predates this incident. This is a continuation of it. He has chosen not to change anything regarding safety; as a result people are dead. No way around it.

 

[Arkay]

What a load of spin that is. He's the headliner, on center stage, with the majority of the attention, and a microphone to communicate to everyone. He absolutely could have stopped performing, got the lights brought up and told the crowd to back up. We've seen documented evidence that performers have done this.

Truth is, IMHO, he didn't WANT to stop the show.

Agree 1000%.

At a show like this, Travis is THE KING. All these people came from around the country just to see him. Those who did pay were willing to invest hundreds of dollars for a ticket, plus parking, plus hotels, plus maybe merchandise.

He is idolized by his audience. IMO, if he had told them he wouldn't sing another note until safety was restored, they would have either obeyed or he could have followed through on his promise.

I'd only known him vaguely as Kylie's baby daddy, but I've learned since this that he has a rabid fan base which clearly cuts across all races and down into very young people whom I would think were too young for concerts. However, based on what we've seen this week, TS appears to thrive on this mayhem. He certainly has encouraged it in the past.

Now all this "what, who me? Oh I simply cannot imagine this happened at my show" is sickening to me.

You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind. Hosea 8:7

 

[mickey2942]

Probably a good thing that Kylie Jenner is not married to Travis King. Her assets alone are estimated in the $600 million range. If they were married, the assets would be considered "community property".

How Rich Is Kylie Jenner After the End of ‘Keeping Up With the Kardashians’?

 

[bears10]

Probably a good thing that Kylie Jenner is not married to Travis King. Her assets alone are estimated in the $600 million range. If they were married, the assets would be considered "community property".

How Rich Is Kylie Jenner After the End of ‘Keeping Up With the Kardashians’?

I guess she should be thankful that he would never commit to a monogamous relationship with her, let alone a marriage.

 

[Luna20]

Probably a good thing that Kylie Jenner is not married to Travis King. Her assets alone are estimated in the $600 million range. If they were married, the assets would be considered "community property".

How Rich Is Kylie Jenner After the End of ‘Keeping Up With the Kardashians’?

I can’t recall, which one is the billionaire among them?

 

[JerseyGirl]

I can’t recall, which one is the billionaire among them?

Kylie, making most of her money from her cosmetics line. I read somewhere that Travis is about $60 million.

 

[La Louve]

Probably a good thing that Kylie Jenner is not married to Travis King. Her assets alone are estimated in the $600 million range. If they were married, the assets would be considered "community property".

How Rich Is Kylie Jenner After the End of ‘Keeping Up With the Kardashians’?

Pretty sure there'd be a prenup if they were to marry, which would address their separate earnings. Can't imagine Kris J not insisting on one.

MOO

 

[HMSHood]

The more I learn what happened at Astroworld Fest, it is one giant Charlie Foxtrot.

 

[CocoChanel]

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