GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

[IzzyBlanche]

Pffft!

Trust me...his punishment will pale in comparison to Rice. Too many ignorant fools agree with his severely abusive physically and emotionally damaging disciplining methods.
Children are the least protected class of human beings.
All IMO


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More people would be outraged if he had beaten a dog to the point of drawing blood. Moo

 

[Jovi Girl]

I live in the same county where he was indicted. I cannot believe how many people think what he did is o.k.
What is going on in people's heads ?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I live in the same county where he was indicted. I cannot believe how many people think what he did is o.k.
What is going on in people's heads ?

Not much.
IMO


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[iamnotagolem]

I'm beyond livid by how many people think that what he did was okay. I'm livid at the number of people who I've read who said their parents did the same thing to them and they are better for it, the ones who say they do that to their kids.

Hello? How on earth can you condone beating a child? How do you rationalize making a child bleed as "discipline"? This world is a sick, sick place filled with so many disgusting, vile bastards. I'm so angry about this, on the heels of the pictures of Colton Turner. So it's okay to beat them to a pulp, just don't kill them? Is that the line not to cross? Make sure they have a pulse? Sweet. Great bunch of parents out there. Sick. Just sick.

On that note, I'm going to go cuddle, hug and kiss my babies until they push me away.

 

[human]

How many celebrities have we seen out there that pay a bit of a penalty or not, but then go on.

How about Woody Allen? Mike Tyson? Who else? There are more I am sure.

I see plenty of people on FB sending around the meme that their parents spanked them and they are respectful and whatever else that says.

So there are people out there who think hitting a kid is just fine. And AP thinks it is just fine, just not that ???? what. I am confused on that part. Too many welts? Not on the legs?

I wonder what the kid's crime was.

 

[Linda7NJ]

How many celebrities have we seen out there that pay a bit of a penalty or not, but then go on.

How about Woody Allen? Mike Tyson? Who else? There are more I am sure.

I see plenty of people on FB sending around the meme that their parents spanked them and they are respectful and whatever else that says.

So there are people out there who think hitting a kid is just fine. And AP thinks it is just fine, just not that ???? what. I am confused on that part. Too many welts? Not on the legs?

I wonder what the kid's crime was.

Hitting his sibling....or so I've heard.






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[iamnotagolem]

Hitting his sibling....or so I've heard.






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Wonder where he learned to hit!?!?!?!?! idiots

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Not even hitting. Shoving him or maybe her, I don't know, off a video game. Certainly an offense meriting such a beating. /sarcasm.

 

[human]

This is a really long article, but very interesting and good, I feel .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-peterson-child-abuse-case-raises-old-debate/

 

[IzzyBlanche]

This is a really long article, but very interesting and good, I feel .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-peterson-child-abuse-case-raises-old-debate/

Thanks for the link. All this rang very familiar to me as I got the belt, the switch a couple of times, the open bare hands spanking quite a lot. Also the occasional slap, and shaking.

I especially appreciated "this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" and "stop that crying or I'll give you something to cry about." Been there, heard those.

Did these punishments make me behave? Yes.

Have I spent untold $ as an adult on therapy and medication to deal with issues of self-esteem and depression? Yes.

Cause and effect? Probably.

"Harsh physical punishment in the absence of child maltreatment is associated with mood disorders..."

More at link.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/06/27/peds.2011-2947.full.pdf

 

[human]

Thanks for the link. All this rang very familiar to me as I got the belt, the switch a couple of times, the open bare hands spanking quite a lot. Also the occasional slap and shaking.

I especially appreciated "this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" and "stop that crying or I'll give you something to cry about." Been there, heard those.

Did these punishments make me behave? Yes.

Have I spent untold $ as an adult on therapy and medication to deal with issues of self-esteem and depression? Yes.

Cause and effect? Probably.

"Harsh physical punishment in the absence of child maltreatment is associated with mood disorders..."

More at link.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2012/06/27/peds.2011-2947.full.pdf

Excellent info. I wish people would read this. I have three successful adult children who were never spanked.

And it wasn't because they did not do curious things.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I was never spanked and neither was my child.

Although I find myself now that he's age 16 ....I would like to beat him silly sometimes!

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[Trino]

I was never spanked and neither was my child.

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I recall my mother using a willow switch on me, although I have no idea why. Interesting.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I recall my mother using a willow switch on me, although I have no idea why. Interesting.

I remember my next door neighbor had a huge weeping willow tree that myself and the girl that lived there would play under pretending it was our house.
One day her older brother came out and stared to hitting the back of my legs with a willow branch..,that thing was like a whip! I was struck only twice ...I screamed and ran home. It REALLY hurt!!!! I never went over there again and till this day I will not speak to him!




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[EvilSoup]

How many celebrities have we seen out there that pay a bit of a penalty or not, but then go on.

How about Woody Allen? Mike Tyson? Who else? There are more I am sure.

I see plenty of people on FB sending around the meme that their parents spanked them and they are respectful and whatever else that says.

So there are people out there who think hitting a kid is just fine. And AP thinks it is just fine, just not that ???? what. I am confused on that part. Too many welts? Not on the legs?

I wonder what the kid's crime was.

I was raised in a part of the country where parents who do NOT use corporal punishment are seen as bad parents. "Spare the rod..."

So when I first heard this story, I wanted to be culturally sensitive to the Southern Christian and other communities who are big proponents of spankings as methods of disciplining children.

Then I saw those pictures. No. Just no.

For the record I have NEVER hit my child, and do not think it is EVER okay. But I live in a part of the country where many things I find horrendous are culturally acceptable, so I try not to impose my views on those people.

But when you "whoop" a 4-year-old until he bleeds, it is not "discipline", it is abuse.

 

[EvilSoup]

There are so many disturbing aspects of this case.

What really makes my stomach turn is AD's text saying he wished the boy had cried so he would have known how much he was hurting him. WTF? What four-year-old would not cry during such a beating and what has AD done to him already so that he didn't cry?

It's also disturbing that AD clearly thinks he went a little too far but basically he was in the right. This is some seriously effed up logic:

When Peterson was asked how he felt about the incident, he said, “To be honest with you, I feel very confident with my actions because I know my intent.” He also described the incident as a “normal whooping” in regards to the “welps” on the child’s buttocks, but that he felt bad immediately when he saw the injuries on the child’s legs. Peterson estimated he “swatted” his son “10 to 15” times, but he’s not sure because he doesn’t “ever count how many pops I give my kids.”

Peterson went on to reiterate again how much he loves all his kids, and only “whoops” them because he wants them to do right. Toward the end of the interview, Peterson said he would reconsider using switches in the future, but said he would never “eliminate whooping my kids . . . because I know how being spanked has helped me in my life.”

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

My ex-SIL, who is white and upper-middle-class is a devout fundamentalist Christian. She proudly bragged about 'beating the spirit' out of her children, including her two adopted children. Citing biblical references to support her beatings.

She tried to impose her demented sense of discipline on MY child once. ONCE.

I never again let my child be in her presence again. Ever.

And I called CPS and Children's Home. They found no issue in the home.

Four years later, my oldest niece, at the age of 14, tried to kill herself by taking a whole bottle of advil along with 6 leftover Vicodin from her dad's surgery. Thankfully, she survived.

My ex-SIL still maintains that this has nothing to do with the beatings. I hate her.

 

[human]

I was raised in a part of the country where parents who do NOT use corporal punishment are seen as bad parents. "Spare the rod..."

So when I first heard this story, I wanted to be culturally sensitive to the Southern Christian and other communities who are big proponents of spankings as methods of disciplining children.

Then I saw those pictures. No. Just no.

For the record I have NEVER hit my child, and do not think it is EVER okay. But I live in a part of the country where many things I find horrendous are culturally acceptable, so I try not to impose my views on those people.

But when you "whoop" a 4-year-old until he bleeds, it is not "discipline", it is abuse.

I do not know how to say this without it sounding like I am being snarky, so please do not take offense.

Hurting another human being is not ok. Female genital mutilation. Not ok. Killing a female because she was raped. Not ok. Having people be slaves. Not ok. Beating your wife or girlfriend. Not ok.

I suppose I could go on with examples, but I think my point comes across.

People can say it is cultural. Eating certain foods may be a cultural way. But hurting other living human beings is simply not acceptable. And there are people all over the world working to educate and stop it.

If an adult hits another adult, it is assault.

Why oh why is it considered all right to hit a child?

 

[EvilSoup]

I do not know how to say this without it sounding like I am being snarky, so please do not take offense.

Hurting another human being is not ok. Female genital mutilation. Not ok. Killing a female because she was raped. Not ok. Having people be slaves. Not ok. Beating your wife or girlfriend. Not ok.

I suppose I could go on with examples, but I think my point comes across.

People can say it is cultural. Eating certain foods may be a cultural way. But hurting other living human beings is simply not acceptable. And there are people all over the world working to educate and stop it.

If an adult hits another adult, it is assault.

Why oh why is it considered all right to hit a child?

I agree with you.

But I also am horrified by children handling guns and in my area, it happens all the time! And done often as part of the "culture". But dear Lord, do NOT speak out about that!

All i meant by my post was that the cultural acceptance of "whoopins" is still HUGE here in the Bible belt. I hate it, but I also try to understand generations of abuse that is deigned acceptable (and preferable) is a reality.

I remember being paddled by my principal in elementary school. I missed my school bus home because I was on the bathroom with diarrhea. I was 6. I got blistered on my bottom with a wooden paddle.

I am not that old. This was in the late 70's. It happens.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Is everyone aware that this man's other son died of abuse at the hand's of another man? http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rian-peterson-son-critical-condition/2966015/

To me, one would be hyper aware about child abuse and even more cautious with the surviving child after such a horrible thing. But not this guy. Of course he played ball days after his son was murdered so maybe it didn't trouble him that much.

Well, if I recall correctly, AD had only recently found out about this child's existence and had no relationship with him. So no worries, no cares--why would his child's murder by beating prevent him from doing his job a few days later? /sarcasm

 

[Trino]

Bruce Rivers, a Minneapolis attorney, says a big part of this case will come down to what is currently accepted as the social norm.

"It is an old southern thing. You go out and you pick your own switch, and you accept the punishment," said Rivers. "But our society has gotten more away from corporal punishment because, you know, it doesn't work."
KSTP found some high schools in Texas have a policy where the coach is allowed to paddle a football player.

"So just hitting somebody with a weapon, a paddle or a switch or something, doesn't by itself make him guilty of a crime," said Rivers. "So it really comes down to a judgment call as to whether what he did was reasonable and that really is in the eye of the beholder."

Rivers does say it looks like Peterson has been charged at the lowest level possible when it comes to causing bodily harm to a child.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3560416.shtml?cat=1