GUILTY TX - Adrian Peterson for child abuse, The Woodlands, 2014

[human]

I wanted to post a couple of news articles on here but I cannot find them on the net anywhere even though I have the physical newspaper in my hands.

One is by Jim Souhan of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

It talks a out the $14 mil a year that Peterson makes. That is almost a mil a game.

That would not include all the money he makes from Nike, etc.

The article is "Vikes back down due to big sponsors' concerns"

Another one is "Peterson still has his share of supporters." News service report.

I have found a shortened version, but not the whole thing which is very disturbing.

Muunerlyn talks about his growing up.

Eric Dickerson has many disturbing comments, IMO.

 

[minor4th]

human--

Here's an online version of the Souhan article you may be taking about:

http://m.startribune.com/sports/vikings/275226611.html

And here's a recent article about Eric Dickerson's support for Adrian Peterson:

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26548167/nfl-hall-famer-eric-dickerson-says-vikings-are

 

[iamnotagolem]

Isn't it sweet? I can just imagine how loved one feels as s/he is getting hit.

All those men who beat their women have been right all along. It's all about love.

I think when you kill the child, that is the greatest expression of love because you are loving them really really a lot with that hand or switch.

ITA!

I like to hug my kids to show them love, that might just be me, though. I gave them the choice "hug or spanking" oddly they both picked hug, so maybe they inherited my preference to hugs. Granted they don't leave "love marks" and they'll never have scars or bruises to be able to show the world how much I loved them, but hopefully they remember the hugs of love.

 

[human]

human--

Here's an online version of the Souhan article you may be taking about:

http://m.startribune.com/sports/vikings/275226611.html

And here's a recent article about Eric Dickerson's support for Adrian Peterson:

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_26548167/nfl-hall-famer-eric-dickerson-says-vikings-are

Isn't the Dickerson article chillng?

It just blows my mind!

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ild-abuse-father-editorials-debates/15856177/

 

[minor4th]

Isn't the Dickerson article chillng?

It just blows my mind!

Yes, but I think there are a whole lot of folks who agree with him and don't see this as abuse, like its no big deal. Just check out Twitter for examples.

From the reports you could tell AP really did not think he had done anything wrong. He wasn't worried about it a bit.

 

[human]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...ild-abuse-father-editorials-debates/15856177/

I hate the term discipline for spanking. It is violence.

It should follow then that a man or woman can hit their spouse for a little discipline. How stupid does that sound?

 

[Apollo]

Yes, but I think there are a whole lot of folks who agree with him and don't see this as abuse, like its no big deal. Just check out Twitter for examples.

From the reports you could tell AP really did not think he had done anything wrong. He wasn't worried about it a bit.

He stated that he felt bad 'after the fact', so I think he did know he did something wrong. And he 'got him good once' in his private parts----shows he was not in control when he was 'disciplining' the little 4 yr old. Well that, and the fact the litttle guy had injuries on his legs, hands, back and buttocks. He wasn't worried about it because of who he is---or should I say 'was'.

I'm shocked at the people (no one here) defending him and stating they use corporal punishment on their 1 yr old babies so beating the heck out of a 4 yr old with a switch is no big deal. I hope he goes to jail for child abuse and I wish his defenders woud go to jail for being too stupid to live amongst normal people-----who wouldn't treat a dog like that.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Warning: NSFW or anyone offended by the F word. But oh so sadly accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5mlRkHOtkM

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I've read a few comments here and there by people countering the "I got hit and I turned out great because of it" logic with "I got hit and I turned out great anyway despite it."

Having been hit I tend toward the latter view except in some significant ways I didn't turn out so great and I fully blame "it."

Came across a middle-school yearbook. My classmate had written, "Next time your mom hits you, hit her back!" There set down for all time.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

He stated that he felt bad 'after the fact', so I think he did know he did something wrong.

Snipped for focus.

Or maybe not. In the other "alleged case," (alleged per Peterson's attorney) Peterson also states that he felt bad but the child was responsible for his injuries.

Peterson: "I felt so bad. But he did it his self."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...cond-child-abuse-accusation-houston/15694615/

Cue excuse presented by millions of wife abusers since the dawn of time:

"I felt so bad. But she brought it on herself."

The child in the car seat ended up with a scar because he just wouldn't be still and take his punishment (from same link):

Peterson never directly answered, but later replied: "Be still n take ya whooping he would have saved the scare (scar).

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

"Charles Barkley, the noted multiple TV networks go-to sports psychologist and admitted problem gambler and problem drinker whose 1:30 a.m. arrest for drunken driving en route to a date with a hooker — didn’t hurt his TV career or commercial endorsements a bit — Sunday, before Adrian Peterson was alleged to have brutalized a second 4-year-old son — one from a different mother — was among those to explain Peterson’s approach to “punishing” or “disciplining” his child."

"Although it appeared to be a cruel and sustained torture of one of Peterson’s who-knows-how-many children, Barkley explained it as both cultural and regional."

"Noting that both he and Peterson “are from the South,” Barkley said that whippings were common forms of child discipline, then, after providing Peterson that excuse, he added he wasn’t excusing Peterson and that times have changed — as if Peterson was too busy parenting to have gotten that message."

http://nypost.com/2014/09/18/culture-is-no-excuse-charles-barkley-abusing-kids-is-wrong/

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Snipped for focus.

Or maybe not. In the other "alleged case," (alleged per Peterson's attorney) Peterson also states that he felt bad but the child was responsible for his injuries.

Peterson: "I felt so bad. But he did it his self."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...cond-child-abuse-accusation-houston/15694615/

Cue excuse presented by millions of wife abusers since the dawn of time:

"I felt so bad. But she brought it on herself."

The child in the car seat ended up with a scar because he just wouldn't be still and take his punishment (from same link):

Peterson never directly answered, but later replied: "Be still n take ya whooping he would have saved the scare (scar).

This (bolded) quote just infuriates me!

 

[IzzyBlanche]

This (bolded) quote just infuriates me!

Just for clarification, what you bolded was my words. Peterson's exact quote is in the next line in blue.

Sorry I messed that up.

On the other hand, I don't think I paraphrased Peterson inaccurately.

Four year olds should be still and take their whoopings. Also not cry to show they are tough as nails!

 

[sorrell skye]

My opinion- A parent should decide how to discipline their child, not other people, not the gov't. (for what its worth, the bible is also on this side) I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about spanking, either with the hand or a switch. I was disciplined with a switch, which sometimes left stripes, no big deal. I spanked my own child with my hand on his butt, when needed, followed by sit and think about it time. When I heard about this, I expected to see massive bruises or black eyes, but I saw switch stripes. Umm.
I see children in public, and can tell by their actions, they have never recieved ANY kind of discipline, and to me, that is much worse.
I am personally past child rearing age, so don't worry, I won't be doing any switching, but if I was on that GJ, he would not be charged.
All MOO, and I realize I'm going against the grain on the thread.

Hitting a child - either with a hand or with a switch or with any other weapon is not discipline.

Hitting a child is violence, just as hitting an adult is violence.

The fact that corporal punishment of children is legal doesn't make it right. Laws need to change.

Discipline of children can take many forms. Effective discipline that is appropriate to the misbehavior while preserving the child's dignity requires creativity and patience. The goal of effective discipline is to guide the child toward self discipline and personal accountability.

How does violence in the form of corporal punishment teach a child self discipline and personal accountability? It doesn't. Corporal punishment teaches a child to fear external authority, instead of engendering within them a sense of internal responsibility. It teaches children that might makes right and fosters a continuing cycle wherein violence is mistakenly perceived as a viable method of dispute resolution, rather than dialogue and problem solving. It instills shame, rather than self-respect.

Non-violent discipline - as well as non-violent communication - assists a child in learning how to be responsible, respectful, peaceful, self-reflective, and trustworthy.

Children are natural, eager learners and are responsive to peaceful disciplinary methods that teach them true lessons.

The old adage of the "rod" is in reference to a shepherd guiding a flock of sheep. The shepherd doesn't beat the sheep with the rod, but uses it to gently steer the errant lambs from danger, until the lambs are mature enough to recognize danger and to avoid the danger.

 

[mikeysmommom]

http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/w...on-s-mother-defends-NFL-star-says-5762412.php
"When you whip those you love-it's about love."
Can't wait to see your responses to this one.
from his mama

Spoken like a true child abuser and no I could care less if she was whipped as a kid, still doesn't make it right. My mom God rest her sole, use to take off her high heeled sandal and fling it at me. Hurt like the dickens but never once did I ever fling a sandal at either of my children. Just because it was done to us does not mean we have to continue the cycle.Abuse is abuse and abuse of a child is the worse kind IMO.

 

[gitana1]

He stated that he felt bad 'after the fact', so I think he did know he did something wrong. And he 'got him good once' in his private parts----shows he was not in control when he was 'disciplining' the little 4 yr old. Well that, and the fact the litttle guy had injuries on his legs, hands, back and buttocks. He wasn't worried about it because of who he is---or should I say 'was'.

I'm shocked at the people (no one here) defending him and stating they use corporal punishment on their 1 yr old babies so beating the heck out of a 4 yr old with a switch is no big deal. I hope he goes to jail for child abuse and I wish his defenders woud go to jail for being too stupid to live amongst normal people-----who wouldn't treat a dog like that.

He didn;t feel bad a bit. He actually grinned in his mug shot. He's a dangerous nut.

 

[gitana1]

Warning: NSFW or anyone offended by the F word. But oh so sadly accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5mlRkHOtkM

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this. I think about how Louis CK describes hitting kids, whenever the subject comes up. Love the guy.

I wanted to transcribe a bit what he said in the video because I think it's so important:

"I really think it's crazy that we hit our kids. It really is...here's the crazy part about it: Kids are the only people in the world, that you're allowed to hit. Do you realize that? They're the most vulnerable and they're the most destroyed by being hit, but it's totally okay to hit them. And they're the only ones! If you hit a dog, they $!@*&% will put you in jail for that $&!#! You can't hit a person unless you can prove they were trying to kill you. But a little, tiny person with a head this big who trusts you implicitly, &$@% them, who gives a $&!#. Let's $!@*&% hit...let's all $!@*&% hit them..."

 

[lonetraveler]

Besides being totally enraged that this enormous Neanderthal felt the need to whip (switch was used the same as a horse whip) a tiny four year old child, I'm also enraged that people are calling this "whipping" a spanking. People have always reacted with a horrified gasp when reading or hearing about slaves being "horse whipped" but now we have a little child who has suffered being literally "whipped until open flesh and blood ran" by a worshipped, hero football star and people are dismissing it as a mere spanking conducted by a parent discipling his child. I'm totally disgusted and disappointed in people right now.

 

[formerjerseygirl]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ld-protection-order-for-adrian-petersons-son/
What about the other 5?