TX - Ahmed Mohamed, 14, creates clock, shows teachers, gets arrested, 14 Sep 2015

[human]

Or wear shoes to the airport! Or accidentally have 3.5 oz of maple syrup in your carry on luggage.

 

[EllieBee]

Was there no teacher at the school that could ID the "unknown electronic device" as a clock and prevent Ahmed from being arrested?

I live in Texas, we don't score very high on the education level anymore.

Yes ma'am.

And also, think about how many NON suspect (you know, the suspects being Muslim, black, etc) ethnicities blow up federal buildings, shoot up theaters, ETC.

Far more than the "eebil doers" . SMDH

 

[human]

o/t. The pop tart boy had other issues. Suspending a 7 year old seems harsh, but maybe he was doing things to other children that parents were upset about. Who knows.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/examiner-recommends-school-board-uphold-pop-tart-suspension/

 

[eucalyptuz]

I find the teacher's reaction sadly normal.
Normal for a post- 9/11 world.
Normal for a post- Boston marathon world.
Normal for a world that has been increasingly exposed to hysterical media for the last decade.
Normal for a country where wars have been waged with nations populated by Muslim people.
Normal for a country that pays its teachers a pittance and as a result the mean standard/education of the teaching workforce has decreased to a point where ignorance and paranoia trumps common sense, empathy and basic knowledge.

A circuit board and a jumble of wires attached to a very large display is not a bomb. A bomb requires some kind of explosive material. If there is none of that then maybe you could be talking about detonator but then every teen with a cell phone has a detonator in their hands.

Stories like this make me sad because we can all see the steps to how we got here and we can't undo them. With time, cultural integration and a good deal of tolerance maybe we can temper the paranoia that is controlling our lives and stealing our liberties.

 

[Sweetgrits]

When Ahmed Mohamed went to his high school in Irving, Texas, Monday, he was so excited. A teenager with dreams of becoming an engineer, he wanted to show his teacher the digital clock he'd made from a pencil case.

The 14-year-old's day ended not with praise, but punishment, after the school called police and he was arrested.

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"They arrested me and they told me that I committed the crime of a hoax bomb, a fake bomb," the freshman later explained to WFAA after authorities released him.

Irving Police spokesman Officer James McLellan told the station, "We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

The teenager did that because, well, it was a clock, he said.

On Wednesday, police announced the teen will not be charged.

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Boyd was also asked if the teen's religious or ethnic identity played a role in how he was treated. The chief said it did not, and he praised the department's relationship with Irving's Muslim community.

However, he said, "We live in an age where you can't take things like that to school."

[video=cnn;us/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested-clock-orig.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/index.html[/video]

BBM

That's a big pencil box! Looking at the photo and judging the approx size by comparing the case with the electric cord, it looks more like a briefcase than a pencil box. It's got a lot of wires too. I would think if you're working to create a clock from a pencil box you would be shooting for something compact and easy to use. Not one of the 5 clocks in my house has that many wires; I don't think all of them together have that many. It looks so complicated.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

o/t. The pop tart boy had other issues. Suspending a 7 year old seems harsh, but maybe he was doing things to other children that parents were upset about. Who knows.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/examiner-recommends-school-board-uphold-pop-tart-suspension/

Why not give this teacher the same benefit of the doubt. Maybe Ahmed was doing other things that upset people?

 

[Plombage]

If the principal and police truly thought it was a bomb, why wasn't the school immediately evacuated?

 

[human]

Why not give this teacher the same benefit of the doubt. Maybe Ahmed was doing other things that upset people?

I can only post what MSM has written. The article claims poptart boy had behavior issues.

Did they say anywhere that clock boy has behavior issues?

 

[katydid23]

If the principal and police truly thought it was a bomb, why wasn't the school immediately evacuated?

They didn't think it was a bomb. They thought it was a 'hoax' bomb, like a bomb scare device.

 

[katydid23]

I can only post what MSM has written. The article claims poptart boy had behavior issues.

Did they say anywhere that clock boy has behavior issues?

No, but the police said that he was being 'passive-aggressive' in the interview, which was why they decided to arrest him.

 

[human]

They didn't think it was a bomb. They thought it was a 'hoax' bomb, like a bomb scare device.

Did he say it was a bomb?

 

[human]

No, but the police said that he was being 'passive-aggressive' in the interview, which was why they decided to arrest him.

They said that they asked him what it was and he said it was a clock. Is that passive aggressive?

 

[eucalyptuz]

Why not give this teacher the same benefit of the doubt. Maybe Ahmed was doing other things that upset people?

Why not give Ahmed the benefit of the doubt?

Lots of others are, with offers of scholarships, internships and visits to the nation's capital.
Every intelligent Muslim kid is NOT tomorrow's terrorist. If we continue to think this way we are going to fragment a society that is still trying to heal the deep scars of yesterday's racism.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I totally agree. I think the cops might have handled it better. But people are acting all outraged that a teacher would even question why a student has a homemade electronic device beeping in their backpack. I hope he learned a lesson and will never try and take his 'clock' to an airport or a court house.

Agree. I would want my kids teachers to do the same thing. This world has gone crazy. And it's best to realize a possible and be wrong. Instead of ignoring the possible.

So I will not blame the teacher as well. Good job.

 

[Plombage]

This article states his civil rights were violated by keeping his parents away in pursuant to Juvenile Justice Code, section 52.025.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/16/police-violated-ahmed-mohamed-s-civil-rights-by-keeping-away-his-parents.html

 

[Sulamith]

EXACTLY. And these bomb threats are indicative of the reality of our times. Those are just the ones from today. Kids are making bomb threats all of the time. So it is not a stretch for a teacher to look at a beeping unknown electronic device in a students backpack and be concerned. Bombs are OFTEN built around clocks so the clocks can set them off.

Let us imagine that the clock was the detonator. Where were the explosives planted? I did not read that the school was evacuated. I did not see any explosives in the clock.

 

[bluesneakers]

I find the teacher's reaction sadly normal.
Normal for a post- 9/11 world.
Normal for a post- Boston marathon world.
Normal for a world that has been increasingly exposed to hysterical media for the last decade.
Normal for a country where wars have been waged with nations populated by Muslim people.
Normal for a country that pays its teachers a pittance and as a result the mean standard/education of the teaching workforce has decreased to a point where ignorance and paranoia trumps common sense, empathy and basic knowledge.

A circuit board and a jumble of wires attached to a very large display is not a bomb. A bomb requires some kind of explosive material. If there is none of that then maybe you could be talking about detonator but then every teen with a cell phone has a detonator in their hands.

Stories like this make me sad because we can all see the steps to how we got here and we can't undo them. With time, cultural integration and a good deal of tolerance maybe we can temper the paranoia that is controlling our lives and stealing our liberties.

Well said!! Thank you.

 

[Sporky]

I personally don't think it looks like a bomb but then I have zero experience with bombs.

Also on a side note I would like to thank yall for not bashing Texas since this is where it happened. I have seen so many hurtful things said about my state about this.

 

[bluesneakers]

They said that they asked him what it was and he said it was a clock. Is that passive aggressive?

It wasn't the answer they were looking for.

 

[katydid23]

They said that they asked him what it was and he said it was a clock. Is that passive aggressive?

I don't know. I am only going by what the officers said. Just like you were going on what the teachers said about the 7 yr old. :wink: