Found Deceased TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #3

[Berlin Dave]

And, where would one start to look for the backstory?

 

[itsrak]

And, where would one start to look for the backstory?

Google. <Modsnip>

 

[JennyM523]

Good thought. There is a Starbucks several blocks in direction of home from Church's, at Inwood & Lemmon, opens at 6am. No drive-thru. Wonder if LE checked Starbuck's video. But why would you linger at Churchs - you'd drive to Starbucks and wait there. I think Mr. White may have been communicating with someone that morn, and that that someone likely knows what happened to Mr. White. I'll be a bit surprised if charges aren't brought against someone within six months or so.

I would linger at Church's placing a mobile order so that it's ready when I get there. Maybe tried to order while still at Racetrack, but Starbucks wasn't open yet so he couldn't place the order. Even if a few mins after 6, the employee at Starbucks still has to enable the mobile order function before orders can be placed. JMO

 

[Knox]

Mods- John Lourden did a Brainscratch episode on Alan back on April 16th, he even mentions the WS threads here. Can we link that episode in forum?

 

[SuziQ]

Mods- John Lourden did a Brainscratch episode on Alan back on April 16th, he even mentions the WS threads here. Can we link that episode in forum?

I would love that link. I hope the mods allow!

 

[Knox]

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[Knox]

My apologies to @fred&edna. I see belatedly that poster linked the BrainScratch episode when it was released back on 4/16.

 

[anonypotomous]

Thanks Knox. I still don’t see where the other poster is getting the whole, lingering in a “sketchy area behind a business”. If he was on his phone checking emails, texts etc then he wouldn’t want to pull out onto the main road. It would make sense for him to go slowly or briefly stop through the churches parking lot while on his phone. I wouldn’t consider this lingering in a sketchy area behind a business. MOO

Semantics?

Waiting = lingering IMO. Sorry if I implied or inferred he was sitting there for a long while, I'm only going by what I've seen and what a reporter posted, etc. I'm also going by what locals have told me about that area behind Church's.

 

[Cuoco7]

I'd much doubt that, if an open marriage or history of brief encounters were the case, LE would publicly raise the subject.

Maybe not.. due to the known conservatism of the area. Maybe it would only add the spotlight on their lifestyle, maybe preventing people from helping or coming, unfortunately. JMO

 

[FlamingoLady]

Maybe not.. due to the known conservatism of the area. Maybe it would only add the spotlight on their lifestyle, maybe preventing people from helping or coming, unfortunately. JMO

If I recall from previous posts, it's been debunked that this was a conservative area of Texas. Quite the opposite according to locals.

 

[MoeInVA]

If investigators have strong reason to believe this is foul play, I wish they would release that. If they have video showing that Alan did not drive the car to the spot where it was found, I wish they would release that.

In my mind, the simplest explanation here is self harm where Alan did not want to be found. Perhaps to shield his family.

But police must have more info by now from phone warrants, car forensics and surveillance footage. So what’s up? Are they not releasing that it’s probably suicide out of respect to the family or is foul play presumed?
Argh!

 

[Knox]

I would be very surprised if Alan was missing due to self harm.

 

[Backstroke10]

I would be very surprised if Alan was missing due to self harm.

I would be very surprised as well, for a few reasons. Why would he have bothered going to the gym that morning. Why fill up the gas tank. Why drive so far away and park the car at the location it was found. I also think his body would have been found by now if this was a suicide. Stranger things have happened so I’m not 100 % ruling it out but I just don’t think that’s what happened. MOO

 

[itsrak]

Here is a map showing Alan White's whereabouts the morning he disappeared. First, the White/Jenkins residence on Livingston Avenue (which was reportedly per Zillow sold 2 months ago (without the signature of Mr. White, who has not been declared dead?!) for around $1.83 million). Google Maps streetview captures the home clearly under extensive renovation in early 2020. Second, LA Fitness, where he stayed for only around 40 minutes and appeared to use phone as if for text before getting into car. Third, RaceTrac for gas, appeared to pay at pump with credit. While there, he entered store, lingered, made no purchase. Fourth, pulled into Church's chicken, which was not open (opens at 10am), where lingered some more. Was not necessary to enter road to get to Church's, as it shares asphalt lot with RaceTrac, lies right next door to northeast. Then headed northeast on Inwood perhaps shortly after 6am, seemingly toward home for a 7am or 7:30am scheduled conference call from his home office. Had Mr. White been communicating via text/app with someone that morn? If so, it would seem the million dollar question is - with whom... Finally, car found a week later (keys in it, per Det. Barnes) on unpaved overgrown area used for illegal dumping off Kitty St., something like 10+ miles to the south from where Mr. White was last captured on video.

I'm thinking there is a good chance that LE has or soon will, via going through the arduous legal process of obtaining phone/text records of Mr. White, determine whether Mr. White was communicating with someone that morn, and if so, with whom. That mystery someone would IMO very likely know what was going on in in Mr. White's life around 6am that morn and what became of Mr. White....

 

[Bridger]

Re suicide:

I would be very surprised as well, for a few reasons. Why would he have bothered going to the gym that morning. Why fill up the gas tank. Why drive so far away and park the car at the location it was found. I also think his body would have been found by now if this was a suicide.

Since the beginning I’ve thought this seems more like a voluntary disappearance than a crime (“voluntary disappearance” to include suicide) and these acts do nothing to change my opinion. We know from reading here that people who commit suicide do all kinds of forward-looking things just prior to the act. They turn in homework, buy groceries, plan vacations, register for classes. Perhaps the dithering both at and around the gas station (and the visit to the less convenient gas station?) was just to help him make up his mind. If so, that would speak to suicide more than a voluntary disappearance, which would likely result in more decisive action rather than dithering.

 

[Shamrock1]

I would be very surprised as well, for a few reasons. Why would he have bothered going to the gym that morning. Why fill up the gas tank. Why drive so far away and park the car at the location it was found. I also think his body would have been found by now if this was a suicide. Stranger things have happened so I’m not 100 % ruling it out but I just don’t think that’s what happened. MOO

YOU would be surprised, because you’re not in the midst of a mental health crisis . I don’t think there’s self-harm here. But standards of reasonableness and logic are rarely applicable to suicide, IMO. They confirm appointments, schedule meetings, re-fill medications, mow the lawn. I hope this doesn’t come across as condescending!

 

[JosieMae]

Another argument against suicide is where the loaner car was found. Why would he drive there? Wouldn't he want those who survived him to return the car in good condition to the dealer in order to avoid a red-tape mess? Rather than leaving it in a sketchy area?

Not to mention - where is his body?

 

[Orgona]

Another argument against suicide is where the loaner car was found. Why would he drive there? Wouldn't he want those who survived him to return the car in good condition to the dealer in order to avoid a red-tape mess? Rather than leaving it in a sketchy area?

Not to mention - where is his body?

When someone commits suicide they don’t think like we do, their thinking process is barely rational. IMO
He could have walked further and/or went with a cab or public transport somewhere like to a river or to other body of water or even some wooded area or storage/container space. His body could be stuck on something under water or swept far away or hidden somewhere in some woods or unused building waiting to be found.

 

[JosieMae]

When someone commits suicide they don’t think like we do, their thinking process is barely rational. IMO
He could have walked further and/or went with a cab or public transport somewhere like to a river or to other body of water or even some wooded area or storage/container space. His body could be stuck on something under water or swept far away or hidden somewhere in some woods or unused building waiting to be found.

Yes, that's true. I taught psychiatric nursing for years and suicidal people will confirm your statement. Some plan in detail, some are more spontaneous.

I keep thinking of the Ray Gricar case from 2005. Of course in the Gricar case we have more to go on, though still not much.

 

[happyday]

I agree suicide shouldn’t be ruled out, but if that’s the case did he drive his car to the sketchy lot in South Dallas first? How would he know about that lot? It was somewhat off the beaten path and known to police for criminal things.