TX TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, found deceased, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #4

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We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?
 
  • #1,122
We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?
Very interesting thought...
 
  • #1,123
We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?

This article quotes a friend.

“And he was expected on a work call at 7 or 7:30 Thursday morning, so when he did not show up for that everybody instantly assumed that something had gone wrong."
 
  • #1,124
My personal opinion? I think Rusty kept a close eye on Alan for some reason that was never made public. I also think this ties into the reason Alan acted a bit odd and then everyone went silent once the car was found. I don't mean this to disparage anyone.
We all have private lives and things that the public does not see. And suddenly Alan and Rusty and other family members are shoved into the public's eyes and subject to intense scrutiny and even some accusations if you followed from the beginning.
I don’t understand how this relates to what I said in my post. But I have expressed my opinion many times, that Rusty immediately jumping to action because Alan was 15 minutes late was odd. Agree there are things which were never disclosed.
 
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I don’t understand how this relates to what I said in my post. But I have expressed my opinion many times, that Rusty immediately jumping to action because Alan was 15 minutes late was odd. Agree there are things which were never disclosed.
It doesn’t. I was not aware I’d quoted your post. Sorry!
 
  • #1,126
I worked there at the time

You worked at the same company he did? Do you believe he definitely had a work meeting at that time then?

Though if you consider he told his husband he would be home for the meeting, he must have had a meeting. If he didn't, he would have said there was a chance he'd would work from the car after the gym or something.

Now maybe I am naive but what could have been something that would cause his husband to worry? Not just be a bit nervous but outright worry?

Even if you knew he might meet with someone, wouldn't you assume it was just taking longer than expected? Even if you thought he wouldn't normally be late for a meeting, so what if there was a car accident or something else bad, wouldn't a part of you also think, well it could be other things... maybe a traffic jam, maybe the car broke down, etc.?
 
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You worked at the same company he did? Do you believe he definitely had a work meeting at that time then?

Though if you consider he told his husband he would be home for the meeting, he must have had a meeting. If he didn't, he would have said there was a chance he'd would work from the car after the gym or something.

Now maybe I am naive but what could have been something that would cause his husband to worry? Not just be a bit nervous but outright worry?

Even if you knew he might meet with someone, wouldn't you assume it was just taking longer than expected? Even if you thought he wouldn't normally be late for a meeting, so what if there was a car accident or something else bad, wouldn't a part of you also think, well it could be other things... maybe a traffic jam, maybe the car broke down, etc.?
I need to add a disclaimer that I didn't know Alan or work in the same office - things are pretty standardized at large firms though. Things like software (Teams, for example) are rolled out to the whole firm, and everyone reports up to the same group of national leaders.

With that out of the way, it's not strange to me that he had at meeting that early. I can think of a few scenarios that would lead to a 7am meeting:
- someone on the call was traveling or otherwise engaged during "normal" working hours, maybe at a conference or training
- the call involved several employees at Alan's level or above. Calendars at that level are a nightmare in my experience. They might have decided on a time that didn't necessitate people moving other meetings
- the call had international or east coast participants
- the call was with a client and that's the time that worked for the client

In regards to Rusty worrying - IMO that's normal. As I said, I didn't know Alan, but he was clearly a high performer. I think it's likely that he was always on time. I also think it's likely that he mentioned something to Rusty about the call, maybe even several times. He might have been prepping materials or mentioned that it was an important call. Maybe he ran through his planned schedule a few times, the way you would with a partner.

The fact that it was at 7am leads me to believe that it was more important than a normal coworker catch-up. As I mentioned above, it likely involved someone very busy and important. Rusty knew Alan and probably had more information than we do about the importance of the call. He would have sounded the alarm if his otherwise over-prepared partner was missing a planned work engagement.

I think it's important to note that Rusty is the one who reported him missing. Although I believe the call was important, I don't think his coworkers would have jumped to calling 911. I believe THEY would have, as you suggested, assumed he had car trouble or a sudden emergency and they would hear from him shortly. Rusty, though, had more transparency into Alan's life and knew that he was planning on making the call. Maybe he correctly assumed that only something very bad would keep Alan from this work obligation.

MOO
 
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I need to add a disclaimer that I didn't know Alan or work in the same office - things are pretty standardized at large firms though. Things like software (Teams, for example) are rolled out to the whole firm, and everyone reports up to the same group of national leaders.

With that out of the way, it's not strange to me that he had at meeting that early. I can think of a few scenarios that would lead to a 7am meeting:
- someone on the call was traveling or otherwise engaged during "normal" working hours, maybe at a conference or training
- the call involved several employees at Alan's level or above. Calendars at that level are a nightmare in my experience. They might have decided on a time that didn't necessitate people moving other meetings
- the call had international or east coast participants
- the call was with a client and that's the time that worked for the client

In regards to Rusty worrying - IMO that's normal. As I said, I didn't know Alan, but he was clearly a high performer. I think it's likely that he was always on time. I also think it's likely that he mentioned something to Rusty about the call, maybe even several times. He might have been prepping materials or mentioned that it was an important call. Maybe he ran through his planned schedule a few times, the way you would with a partner.

The fact that it was at 7am leads me to believe that it was more important than a normal coworker catch-up. As I mentioned above, it likely involved someone very busy and important. Rusty knew Alan and probably had more information than we do about the importance of the call. He would have sounded the alarm if his otherwise over-prepared partner was missing a planned work engagement.

I think it's important to note that Rusty is the one who reported him missing. Although I believe the call was important, I don't think his coworkers would have jumped to calling 911. I believe THEY would have, as you suggested, assumed he had car trouble or a sudden emergency and they would hear from him shortly. Rusty, though, had more transparency into Alan's life and knew that he was planning on making the call. Maybe he correctly assumed that only something very bad would keep Alan from this work obligation.

MOO
Or Rusty as the person who had that intimate knowledge, was worried for specific reasons I chose not to list as theory. But do have probable thoughts on.
 

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