TX TX - Alan White, 55, seen leaving LA Fitness, found deceased, Dallas, 22 Oct 2020 #4

[charminglane]

We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?

 

[OneLove]

We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?

Very interesting thought...

 

[SimplyCass]

We have heard that there was a meeting.
Perhaps there wasn't.
That Alan wanted someone to believe there was so he could have "me" time.
We've not read/heard from anyone at the meeting, or that Alan was missed at a meeting, have we?

KPMG Managing Director Alan White Reported Missing By Family; Reward Increased to $20,000; Dallas Police Considers White 'Endangered' (UPDATE)

Alan White, who works for KPMG in Dallas as a managing director in CIO Advisory, hasn’t been seen by family and friends since Oct. 22.

www.goingconcern.com

This article quotes a friend.

“And he was expected on a work call at 7 or 7:30 Thursday morning, so when he did not show up for that everybody instantly assumed that something had gone wrong."

 

[Knox]

My personal opinion? I think Rusty kept a close eye on Alan for some reason that was never made public. I also think this ties into the reason Alan acted a bit odd and then everyone went silent once the car was found. I don't mean this to disparage anyone.
We all have private lives and things that the public does not see. And suddenly Alan and Rusty and other family members are shoved into the public's eyes and subject to intense scrutiny and even some accusations if you followed from the beginning.

I don’t understand how this relates to what I said in my post. But I have expressed my opinion many times, that Rusty immediately jumping to action because Alan was 15 minutes late was odd. Agree there are things which were never disclosed.

 

[Valiant]

I don’t understand how this relates to what I said in my post. But I have expressed my opinion many times, that Rusty immediately jumping to action because Alan was 15 minutes late was odd. Agree there are things which were never disclosed.

It doesn’t. I was not aware I’d quoted your post. Sorry!

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I worked there at the time

You worked at the same company he did? Do you believe he definitely had a work meeting at that time then?

Though if you consider he told his husband he would be home for the meeting, he must have had a meeting. If he didn't, he would have said there was a chance he'd would work from the car after the gym or something.

Now maybe I am naive but what could have been something that would cause his husband to worry? Not just be a bit nervous but outright worry?

Even if you knew he might meet with someone, wouldn't you assume it was just taking longer than expected? Even if you thought he wouldn't normally be late for a meeting, so what if there was a car accident or something else bad, wouldn't a part of you also think, well it could be other things... maybe a traffic jam, maybe the car broke down, etc.?

 

[Aquabot13]

You worked at the same company he did? Do you believe he definitely had a work meeting at that time then?

Though if you consider he told his husband he would be home for the meeting, he must have had a meeting. If he didn't, he would have said there was a chance he'd would work from the car after the gym or something.

Now maybe I am naive but what could have been something that would cause his husband to worry? Not just be a bit nervous but outright worry?

Even if you knew he might meet with someone, wouldn't you assume it was just taking longer than expected? Even if you thought he wouldn't normally be late for a meeting, so what if there was a car accident or something else bad, wouldn't a part of you also think, well it could be other things... maybe a traffic jam, maybe the car broke down, etc.?

I need to add a disclaimer that I didn't know Alan or work in the same office - things are pretty standardized at large firms though. Things like software (Teams, for example) are rolled out to the whole firm, and everyone reports up to the same group of national leaders.

With that out of the way, it's not strange to me that he had at meeting that early. I can think of a few scenarios that would lead to a 7am meeting:
- someone on the call was traveling or otherwise engaged during "normal" working hours, maybe at a conference or training
- the call involved several employees at Alan's level or above. Calendars at that level are a nightmare in my experience. They might have decided on a time that didn't necessitate people moving other meetings
- the call had international or east coast participants
- the call was with a client and that's the time that worked for the client

In regards to Rusty worrying - IMO that's normal. As I said, I didn't know Alan, but he was clearly a high performer. I think it's likely that he was always on time. I also think it's likely that he mentioned something to Rusty about the call, maybe even several times. He might have been prepping materials or mentioned that it was an important call. Maybe he ran through his planned schedule a few times, the way you would with a partner.

The fact that it was at 7am leads me to believe that it was more important than a normal coworker catch-up. As I mentioned above, it likely involved someone very busy and important. Rusty knew Alan and probably had more information than we do about the importance of the call. He would have sounded the alarm if his otherwise over-prepared partner was missing a planned work engagement.

I think it's important to note that Rusty is the one who reported him missing. Although I believe the call was important, I don't think his coworkers would have jumped to calling 911. I believe THEY would have, as you suggested, assumed he had car trouble or a sudden emergency and they would hear from him shortly. Rusty, though, had more transparency into Alan's life and knew that he was planning on making the call. Maybe he correctly assumed that only something very bad would keep Alan from this work obligation.

MOO

 

[Knox]

I need to add a disclaimer that I didn't know Alan or work in the same office - things are pretty standardized at large firms though. Things like software (Teams, for example) are rolled out to the whole firm, and everyone reports up to the same group of national leaders.

With that out of the way, it's not strange to me that he had at meeting that early. I can think of a few scenarios that would lead to a 7am meeting:
- someone on the call was traveling or otherwise engaged during "normal" working hours, maybe at a conference or training
- the call involved several employees at Alan's level or above. Calendars at that level are a nightmare in my experience. They might have decided on a time that didn't necessitate people moving other meetings
- the call had international or east coast participants
- the call was with a client and that's the time that worked for the client

In regards to Rusty worrying - IMO that's normal. As I said, I didn't know Alan, but he was clearly a high performer. I think it's likely that he was always on time. I also think it's likely that he mentioned something to Rusty about the call, maybe even several times. He might have been prepping materials or mentioned that it was an important call. Maybe he ran through his planned schedule a few times, the way you would with a partner.

The fact that it was at 7am leads me to believe that it was more important than a normal coworker catch-up. As I mentioned above, it likely involved someone very busy and important. Rusty knew Alan and probably had more information than we do about the importance of the call. He would have sounded the alarm if his otherwise over-prepared partner was missing a planned work engagement.

I think it's important to note that Rusty is the one who reported him missing. Although I believe the call was important, I don't think his coworkers would have jumped to calling 911. I believe THEY would have, as you suggested, assumed he had car trouble or a sudden emergency and they would hear from him shortly. Rusty, though, had more transparency into Alan's life and knew that he was planning on making the call. Maybe he correctly assumed that only something very bad would keep Alan from this work obligation.

MOO

Or Rusty as the person who had that intimate knowledge, was worried for specific reasons I chose not to list as theory. But do have probable thoughts on.

 

[moslym3]

These are all my opinions. I don't think it really matters whether Rusty knew or not that Alan was having some sort of meet-up that morning. He told the police what he knew and they just don't want to share those details with the public, which is fair. But this wasn't a facebook marketplace meetup for an old high-chair.

I think Alan's behavior (leaving the gym after a pretty short workout and then waiting around the gas station) tells me he was meeting up with someone and trying to fit it in quickly before heading home for the call. Whether Rusty knew any details about it speaks more to their relationship at the time, not what actually happened to Alan, so i don't think it's relevant to the case.

Such a frustrating case - if there was just a bit more surveillance video from around the gas station area that could be analyzed -- the perp had to have arrived on the scene of the meetup somehow, on foot or in a vehicle. Maybe after we see Alan at the gas station he has further communication with the perp asking him to go to a second location instead. Maybe Alan thought he could still squeeze it in and take the call in the car on the drive home. It's wild that the communication between Alan and the perp to set up the meetup didn't leave a trail that lead anywhere.

 

[Knox]

These are all my opinions. I don't think it really matters whether Rusty knew or not that Alan was having some sort of meet-up that morning. He told the police what he knew and they just don't want to share those details with the public, which is fair. But this wasn't a facebook marketplace meetup for an old high-chair.

I think Alan's behavior (leaving the gym after a pretty short workout and then waiting around the gas station) tells me he was meeting up with someone and trying to fit it in quickly before heading home for the call. Whether Rusty knew any details about it speaks more to their relationship at the time, not what actually happened to Alan, so i don't think it's relevant to the case.

Such a frustrating case - if there was just a bit more surveillance video from around the gas station area that could be analyzed -- the perp had to have arrived on the scene of the meetup somehow, on foot or in a vehicle. Maybe after we see Alan at the gas station he has further communication with the perp asking him to go to a second location instead. Maybe Alan thought he could still squeeze it in and take the call in the car on the drive home. It's wild that the communication between Alan and the perp to set up the meetup didn't leave a trail that lead anywhere.

Could Alan have had a second phone which wasn’t traceable back to him? I don’t remember now if his known cellphone was ever found? But if he had a burner phone that could answer some questions.

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

I've long suspected this was the case, and why Randal reacted the way he did so quickly - when Alan failed to arrive home. This is not disrepectful, nor is it victim bashing. No moral judgement whatsoever.

I thought of Alan when I read this victim's story and how he was robbed of his phone at gunpoint. I imagined that Alan would balk at giving up his phone which was probably a work phone with all sorts of private information on it. If he refused to give up his phone or didn't give it up fast enough, he could have been shot dead. I also believe that he was meeting someone for something, either a date or a substance. I also make no judgment whatsoever. I just wish that this case would be solved as I feel certain that there have been other victims who may or may not have come forward.

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