GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #3

[Lori_TX]

Interesting that today, the search warrants are obtained listing 129 items, according to the WFAA link. The paper we saw the photo of was a receipt for seized items, not a warrant.

It was only 4 days ago that the Star-Telegram reported that


http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/04/4982904/police-still-receiving-tips-in.html

Very interesting! I missed that they were sealed! Hmmm...

 

[Dr. Know?]

If the search warrants were critical to the investigation & criminal charges, I don't believe they would have been unsealed or released. This might be leftovers...via FOIA.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I know y'all have gone over this, but I gotta surmise that if I called 30 people in my contacts list right now, that *maybe* 1 of them would have red tape of any kind.

This seems a bit far-fetched, but if someone in the family is not involved-and I'm not saying they are-it seems plausible that the perp planted these items in the family's car. I mean-social security card???

My pet theory is that the perp may have taken some items *from* the family car.

If they are laissez-faire about the safety of the neighborhood, and they are a busy family with lots of events and trips, they may not bother to lock those car doors.

 

[carbuff]

They had just gotten back from Camp a day or two before and they had been swimming. Probably hadn't gotten to the laundry yet. Moo


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Possibly also she had been swimming or running through the sprinkler at a neighbor's and the neighbor sent the suit home in a plastic bag.

 

[wfgodot]

To what end? The family already knows what was taken; they already know some percentage of the public suspects them. Or do you mean you think if they subtly nudge public opinion further against the family, a non-family perp may relax and slip up? Or something more complex?

(I am also terrible at chess.)

All of the above, lol. I just don't think an officer of the law would leak the info clandestinely in a case of this magnitude, involving a child. I think there's a purpose behind it but I'm not sure quite what.

I don't suspect the family - but that means nothing.

An item on that list may correspond to something in someone else's possession too - something innocuous. It could serve to shake that other someone up. Or to lower his or her guard.

 

[ArianeEmory]

When did the press get a photo of the warrant? Today? Or last week?

I THINK this is the order of events:

1) All evidence collected from cars and home last Monday/Tuesday

2) That Tuesday, FBI leaves a receipt for items taken from one of the cars in plain view inside the car (on seat, I think). Media nabs a photo, publishes. This is the receipt with red tape, walmart bags, bath tissue, ID photocopies.

3) Today (per the WFAA article, anyway), press 'obtains' the rest of the search warrant that was executed last Monday at the home. This one has the stuff from the house itself, including the 'anything that could be used as a restraint', water, cat hair, etc.

 

[Hejlena]

But they were specifically looking for anything that could be used as a restraint. There's a reason for that...marks other than tape marks on wrists and ankles maybe? I just watched the video here http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/tarr...of-slain-Saginaw-girls-parents-214656741.html and they also took a wet swimming suit, but I'm keeping in mind that Alanna had just returned from camp, so that may be nothing as well.

I haven't heard anything about Alanna's hands and feet being bound with red tape per se. I only heard they were bound. I thought it was established from the 911 call that there was tape (did the caller say what color?) around either the tarp or garbage bag.

 

[carbuff]

My pet theory is that the perp may have taken some items *from* the family car.

If they are laissez-faire about the safety of the neighborhood, and they are a busy family with lots of events and trips, they may not bother to lock those car doors.

Oh, good thought. That's certainly true of many people in our neighborhood. And I could tell you who does and who doesn't.

 

[Filly]

That it?

They send 4 squad cars when I called about a loose mean dog that wouldn't let me leave my house.

Lucky they got four over here yesterday when a crackhead stealing copper leveled a house.

 

[CluelessWonder]

I know y'all have gone over this, but I gotta surmise that if I called 30 people in my contacts list right now, that *maybe* 1 of them would have red tape of any kind.

This seems a bit far-fetched, but if someone in the family is not involved-and I'm not saying they are-it seems plausible that the perp planted these items in the family's car. I mean-social security card???

This is what I wondered about. Almost nobody has red tape. Yet it seems like someone would go to great lengths to discard red tape if the person had just used it in such a manner.

 

[Pensfan]

This stuff was all taken into evidence a week ago--if any of it matched, I think someone would already be in jail. I think the warrant was that broad so they could *rule out* those items.

Hang around here for a while. You'll see all kinds of "matches", child porn found, and long-buried bodies located, but not enough of those who are strongly suspected going to jail.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Oh, good thought. That's certainly true of many people in our neighborhood. And I could tell you who does and who doesn't.

The car in question was also parked on the street, not in the driveway or garage.

 

[human]

As far as the restraints and people rushing to defend the parents, remember the restraints were being researched in relation to Alanna, That is what is sickening,

There must be something to indicate that restraints were used on her

 

[CluelessWonder]

Are the cops still in the neighborhood with squad cars, helicopters, etc.?

 

[ArianeEmory]

Hang around here for a while. You'll see all kinds of "matches", child porn found, and long-buried bodies located, but not enough of those who are strongly suspected going to jail.

I understand your cynicism, but this a case with an extremely tight timeline and geographic radius.

 

[Filly]

They had just gotten back from Camp a day or two before and they had been swimming. Probably hadn't gotten to the laundry yet. Moo


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Going with that.

 

[Salem]

Why so much toilet paper and empty rolls from toilet paper? What is that about?

Salem

 

[Salem]

I find the belts very interesting, also.

Salem

 

[human]

Well, no. My hearing isn't good over the phone, so I tend to go over first and call later. People have different styles. That doesn't make them sinister.

LE is not always nice. We tend to see their good side because we see them working on the most difficult cases, but there's plenty of abuse of power and just plain stupidity out there. I was a single mother at the time. Had to call to report that the neighbor's house was being broken into. They came to my house, not the neighbor's, and gave me a third degree about why I didn't have a husband and how was I taking care of my daughter. I really thought they were going to arrest me and take my daughter to child services, and as far as I know they didn't do anything about the neighbor's house until the neighbor got home from work and called several hours later. And I have no idea how they knew I was a single mother.

Um. Where did the sinister implication come from?

I was merely trying to figure out why they walk to neighbor's and figure it must be because they called the ones they knew and started on the ones they did not know as well. Walking house to house takes quite awhile as opposed to a phone call

 

[GingerzMomma]

But they were specifically looking for anything that could be used as a restraint. There's a reason for that...marks other than tape marks on wrists and ankles maybe? I just watched the video here http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/tarr...of-slain-Saginaw-girls-parents-214656741.html and they also took a wet swimming suit, but I'm keeping in mind that Alanna had just returned from camp, so that may be nothing as well.

The video on the link also specifies LE were asking about "two suspicious black vehicles in the neighborhood"........and at end the reporter says "two dark SUV's". It seems they are taking this lead seriously, since that's what they're asking people about today - and clearly means more than one person was involved.