GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #5

[IBsleuthin]

"Younger victims were more likely to be dumped closer to their homes."


http://books.google.com/books?id=YQ...found within a mile of abduction site&f=false

 

[Pensfan]

If LE cleared this person, why wouldn't they say so?

Maybe they want the creep who dumped Alanna's body to think he isn't the prime suspect.

 

[kkdj]

I think they might want to look for two suspects.

Can you elaborate?

 

[IBsleuthin]

The red pickup truck with a green splash on the rear passengers side may be a different vehicle, the girls just said it was rusty and nothing about a paint splash. Unless I missed something.

The family describes the red truck as looking rusty and having a green splash of paint on the back passenger side.


http://www.examiner.com/article/ala...o-lure-girls-to-truck-a-month-prior-to-murder

 

[Dr. Know?]

The family describes the red truck as looking rusty and having a green splash of paint on the back passenger side.


http://www.examiner.com/article/ala...o-lure-girls-to-truck-a-month-prior-to-murder

The thing is with the examiner articles, there's no news backing what they say and have read many incorrect facts on most of them. There might be a handful that are worth reading. jmo

It just might be they put two different news story facts together. That doesn't make it so.

Hey ya' IBsleuthin!

 

[Donjeta]

The family describes the red truck as looking rusty and having a green splash of paint on the back passenger side.


http://www.examiner.com/article/ala...o-lure-girls-to-truck-a-month-prior-to-murder

That is a blog and the writer did not talk to the family. The MSM report the writer quotes as the source does NOT say so.


The link
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Incident-With-Pickup-Truck-Eyed-in-Saginaw-Slaying-214693701.html

The Acunas live in West Fort Worth, about 14 miles from Saginaw.

The red pickup police are looking for in the Saginaw case has a green paint splash on the back passenger side.

The Acuna sisters said they remember the pickup in their case for another reason.

"It was kind of rusty," Andrea Acuna said.

THe Saginaw case refers to Alanna, not these girls. The blog writer misunderstood.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Can you elaborate?

Multiple factors going into this 'thought' of mine, but the one that glares at me the most is the overhead photo of the intersection with the tarp laying there.


from experience I know that lengthy posts on here just get glazed over so I don't want to boar anyone.


Take a good look at that overhead and then come back and give me your best guess as to HOW AND WHY that tarp with that body landed there on a quiet intersection without (presumably) anyone seeing anything.

*). Where would the driver of the vehicle be located?

*). Why would the tarp drop on the right side of the vehicle?

*). The tarp was more than likely used as a cover for transport and nothing more.

*). Could someone easily and without detection while traveling alone, pull up to that stop sign in that intersection and easily open a door and slide that body/tarp out and then drive off? Solo? Or would they need assistance?

My conclusions include: Someone was nervous and anxious to get rid of that and didn't want to risk transporting any further.

 

[kkdj]

I've been researching Geographic Profiling for over ten years and the more I learn about it the more important I think it is to understanding the line of thinking during and after a crime.

As it relates to this particular crime, I have found THIS:

http://books.google.com/books?id=YQ...found within a mile of abduction site&f=false

Very interesting. Thank you.

 

[GingerzMomma]

I've been researching Geographic Profiling for over ten years and the more I learn about it the more important I think it is to understanding the line of thinking during and after a crime.

As it relates to this particular crime, I have found THIS:

http://books.google.com/books?id=YQ...found within a mile of abduction site&f=false

THIS is a VERY good read, IBS. Thank you!

Regardless of your own pet theory of what happened to Alanna, you absolutely should read this!

 

[jjenny]

That is a blog and the writer did not talk to the family. The MSM report the writer quotes as the source does NOT say so.


The link
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Incident-With-Pickup-Truck-Eyed-in-Saginaw-Slaying-214693701.html



THe Saginaw case refers to Alanna, not these girls. The blog writer misunderstood.

If police had a complete and accurate license plate number, all they had to do is look in the database and find the truck. And I am pretty sure the blog got it from the article she linked. I saw it there. But it appears to have been edited out.

 

[IBsleuthin]

That is a blog and the writer did not talk to the family. The MSM report the writer quotes as the source does NOT say so.


The link
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Incident-With-Pickup-Truck-Eyed-in-Saginaw-Slaying-214693701.html



THe Saginaw case refers to Alanna, not these girls. The blog writer misunderstood.

Good for you.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Very interesting. Thank you.

I thought more people on here knew about this.

I am just a true believe in it.

 

[IBsleuthin]

If police had a complete and accurate license plate number, all they had to do is look in the database and find the truck. And I am pretty sure the blog got it from the article she linked. I saw it there. But it appears to have been edited out.

I agree jjenny;

They could have found it a number of ways.

We reported a very drunk driver once but not wanting to get any closer to the vehicle could only get the first three letters. Police found the car ect...electronic data bases are amazing.

 

[IBsleuthin]

The thing is with the examiner articles, there's no news backing what they say and have read many incorrect facts on most of them. There might be a handful that are worth reading. jmo

It just might be they put two different news story facts together. That doesn't make it so.

Hey ya' IBsleuthin!

:truce: :seeya: Hey back at ya!!

(I should have looked before quoting the examiner!) I've also fallen for The Onion News on several occasions! Packed up and left town when they reported that gigantic fire ants were invading our state. Oohhhhh lack of sugar and caffeine! :banghead:

 

[Donjeta]

If police had a complete and accurate license plate number, all they had to do is look in the database and find the truck. And I am pretty sure the blog got it from the article she linked. I saw it there. But it appears to have been edited out.

Pretty sure they could find the truck even on the basis of a partial number.
I believe they have checked it out and followed up and are quite aware of whether there is a paint splash or not, if it was his own plates and not stolen ones.

The NBCDFW article might be edited, I don't know, but the video seems to be the same one I saw earlier and they just say the truck was rusty and do not mention a paint splash in connection with that truck.

 

[jjenny]

Pretty sure they could find the truck even on the basis of a partial number.
I believe they have checked it out and followed up and are quite aware of whether there is a paint splash or not, if it was his own plates and not stolen ones.

The NBCDFW article might be edited, I don't know, but the video seems to be the same one I saw earlier and they just say the truck was rusty and do not mention a paint splash in connection with that truck.

I always click on the link and check. And unless I am hallucinating, I am pretty sure the blog got it directly from the article regarding the middle number at the end of the license plate. Unfortunately google doesn't do cache anymore, so there is no way to check on edits that I know of.

 

[Donjeta]

I always click on the link and check. And unless I am hallucinating, I am pretty sure the blog got it directly from the article regarding the middle number at the end of the license plate. Unfortunately google doesn't do cache anymore, so there is no way to check on edits that I know of.

I don't remember seeing the middle number part before but I could have missed that.
It seems the kind of a specific detail that one would more easily leave out than make up from scratch or misunderstand.

What sometimes works is google a part of the supposed edit and see if anyone else quoted it like that. Some crime forums that allow copypasting entire articles are quite helpful.

 

[Wondergirl]

Very interesting. Thank you.

Excellent reference, thank-you.

This raises the question in my mind, of the most important unknown at this time - WHERE was the scene of Alanna's murder?

IF she was abducted, it likely was within 200 feet of her home.

We know she was found within a mile of her home.

We know the murderer used quite a few supplements in her murder. It's possible she was murdered in a vehicle, but, not probable.

The odds are quite high that Alanna was murdered in a home, within a 1 mile perimeter of her home, IMO.

That's the perimeter for this crime.

JMO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I wonder....Has there been another case where a child's body was found in the street? Or one where the child drowned, or died in a hot car, or ate something toxic and it was covered up to look like a murder? There are thousands of child murders that have happened over the years, the majority of which we have never heard of. Maybe it has happened before, and the case just faded away into obscurity. It would be interesting to find a case with one of those scenarios, and see who the perp was, and what exactly took place.

 

[jjenny]

I wonder....Has there been another case where a child's body was found in the street? Or one where the child drowned, or died in a hot car, or ate something toxic and it was covered up to look like a murder? There are thousands of child murders that have happened over the years, the majority of which we have never heard of. Maybe it has happened before, and the case just faded away into obscurity. It would be interesting to find a case with one of those scenarios, and see who the perp was, and what exactly took place.

Not that I know of. Child's body found in the street is obviously very unusual. Really there is no point of making an accident look like murder. Usually people try to make a murder look like an accident, not the other way around.