GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #6

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  • #261
As a tangent on "LE thought it was family": I wonder how many people lost interest when it didn't look like it was going to be the family after all. (Sorry to be cynical, but a lot of people do follow these cases for the cheap thrill/Nancy Grace aspect, and the parents turning out to be (seemingly) fairly normal/loving people with a few odd proclivities was probably a big letdown.)

If I lived there, I would be praying it was the family,

Otherwise, my child could be next
 
  • #262
We have seen over and over how little children just "vanish" in the night, no reason, no explanation, no arrest.

If I was a predator, I would probably just walk into the house of a child I know and take her.

Everyone's going to accuse the family anyway. I would feel quite safe knowing this.
 
  • #263
As a tangent on "LE thought it was family": I wonder how many people lost interest when it didn't look like it was going to be the family after all. (Sorry to be cynical, but a lot of people do follow these cases for the cheap thrill/Nancy Grace aspect, and the parents turning out to be (seemingly) fairly normal/loving people with a few odd proclivities was probably a big letdown.)

I guess I should mention that I don't feel we have an intrinsic right to constant media coverage. I do hope that, like JR, LE will tell us if there is something we can help with.

If so, that is really stupid, as it means there is a random child predator out there.
 
  • #264
I don't find the lack of media coverage alarming at all.

The family lives an "unusual" lifestyle and this would make the case much much more difficult to write about without seeming to bash them.

Even here we see the fact that they were "obese" and polyamorous has raised suspicion and accusation.

When LE say something is "an isolated incident", I take that to mean that they have DNA which they cannot identify...eg, no known RSO or felon.

DNA would most likely have been back overnight, if it was complete.

All these excuses about "it takes time" are really only for partial DNA. If there is whole DNA, such as semen, they can run it almost immediately.

I say they've already got the DNA profile and it does not belong to family.


:cow:

Regarding the speed of an arrest - we have a case here where it took 8 years and a Coronial Inquiry before an arrest was made, even though the perp was identified within 2 weeks of the crime.

I don't know about overnight.....I'm familiar with PCR testing of DNA in clinical labs (where they are usually only testing for small fragments to identify particular pathogens, for example), and they can put results out in 24-48 hours.

According to this article, forensic DNA testing takes about 60 hours:
http://www.patc.com/weeklyarticles/dna-timeline.shtml

Even if they were only doing this in 8 hour shifts (I kind of doubt it w/ FBI and multiple LE involved, though).....it could have been done in 7-8 days - or a week ago. I think it is very likely that they do have results back. But, that's just my opinion......they seem to be waiting for toxicology results to sign out autopsy - which could take another month:
http://www.drugs.com/article/toxicology-tests.html
 
  • #265
As a tangent on "LE thought it was family": I wonder how many people lost interest when it didn't look like it was going to be the family after all. (Sorry to be cynical, but a lot of people do follow these cases for the cheap thrill/Nancy Grace aspect, and the parents turning out to be (seemingly) fairly normal/loving people with a few odd proclivities was probably a big letdown.)

I guess I should mention that I don't feel we have an intrinsic right to constant media coverage. I do hope that, like JR, LE will tell us if there is something we can help with.

:giggle: Eloquent yet funny. ty :wink:
 
  • #266
If so, that is really stupid, as it means there is a random child predator out there.

For what it's worth, I was more commenting on thread activity than the vigilance of local parents. Based on the locals who have posted, it sounds like the ones who are paying any attention at all are concerned. The ones who aren't probably wouldn't pay that much attention to LE/MSM anyway.
 
  • #267
Are the billboards in neighboring areas including Ft. Worth?

A $10,000 reward is actually very high, so I am guessing that they really do need any and all tips. I am understanding that locals are telling us that everyone there is aware, I'm sure there must be some local news about it and the phone numbers to call info in on.

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to the identification, arrest and conviction of the person or people responsible for Gallagher's death.

Anyone with information is asked to call 682-888-3682 or 682-888-3684.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...-Alanna-Gallagher-Laid-to-Rest-215053131.html
 
  • #268
Also, adding to why there's been little media coverage -- as far as I can recall, I don't remember parents of an abducted/murdered child ever being so quiet. A lot of times, interviews with parents will fuel continued coverage, but other than the two statements released by the fathers, there's been nothing from the family.
 
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Are the billboards in neighboring areas including Ft. Worth?

A $10,000 reward is actually very high, so I am guessing that they really do need any and all tips. I am understanding that locals are telling us that everyone there is aware, I'm sure there must be some local news about it and the phone numbers to call info in on.



http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...-Alanna-Gallagher-Laid-to-Rest-215053131.html

I haven't seen any myself, but I haven't traveled outside of Saginaw much lately. We do hand out flyers with this information at the local business I work for.
 
  • #271
Also, adding to why there's been little media coverage -- as far as I can recall, I don't remember parents of an abducted/murdered child ever being so quiet. A lot of times, interviews with parents will fuel continued coverage, but other than the two statements released by the fathers, there's been nothing from the family.

I was wondering that myself. I have not seen that before except with families that are living waaaaaaay below poverty
 
  • #272
Also, adding to why there's been little media coverage -- as far as I can recall, I don't remember parents of an abducted/murdered child ever being so quiet. A lot of times, interviews with parents will fuel continued coverage, but other than the two statements released by the fathers, there's been nothing from the family.

In this particular situation, I completely understand. At one point in this thread, mods were having to step in over petty nastiness like the parents' weight every couple of hours, not mentioning some of the more legitimately unusual stuff.

I suppose I'm also not sure that parents' public pleas ever help crack a case, but I'd certainly be happy to be demonstrated to be wrong. Otherwise, I don't think they owe us anything.
 
  • #273
In this particular situation, I completely understand. At one point in this thread, mods were having to step in over petty nastiness like the parents' weight every couple of hours, not mentioning some of the more legitimately unusual stuff.

I suppose I'm also not sure that parents' public pleas ever help crack a case, but I'd certainly be happy to be demonstrated to be wrong. Otherwise, I don't think they owe us anything.

I have to agree. Alanna is not missing. She was found murdered approximately one mile from her home. Parents cannot go on t.v. and beg for her return, or anything else. Allow them to grieve in peace.

Allow all LE to do their jobs in the manner in which they choose. This case does seem to be local, unless LE decides it is someone from out of town. They have to be quiet in all they are looking into, and they have to wait for all the forensics to be examined and results sent back to even begin to know where to search.
 
  • #274
In this particular situation, I completely understand. At one point in this thread, mods were having to step in over petty nastiness like the parents' weight every couple of hours, not mentioning some of the more legitimately unusual stuff.

I suppose I'm also not sure that parents' public pleas ever help crack a case, but I'd certainly be happy to be demonstrated to be wrong. Otherwise, I don't think they owe us anything.

and from 21Merc7:

I have to agree. Alanna is not missing. She was found murdered approximately one mile from her home. Parents cannot go on t.v. and beg for her return, or anything else. Allow them to grieve in peace.

Allow all LE to do their jobs in the manner in which they choose. This case does seem to be local, unless LE decides it is someone from out of town. They have to be quiet in all they are looking into, and they have to wait for all the forensics to be examined and results sent back to even begin to know where to search.

My commentary wasn't a statement about what the parents should or should not do, only a possible explanation for why the media interest in Alanna's story has waned.
 
  • #275
Are the billboards in neighboring areas including Ft. Worth?

A $10,000 reward is actually very high, so I am guessing that they really do need any and all tips. I am understanding that locals are telling us that everyone there is aware, I'm sure there must be some local news about it and the phone numbers to call info in on.



http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...-Alanna-Gallagher-Laid-to-Rest-215053131.html

They are supposed to be throughout DFW, according to my favorite LE spokesperson:

The “billboards will be located throughout the DFW Metroplex, but exactly where I do not know,” said officer Damon Ing, the Saginaw police spokesman.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/10/4994343/billboards-seek-tips-in-slaying.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #276
I can't find the article link for the two girls abducted in Tyler in 1989/ 1992 or 3 but I would love to see those two in the picture lineup with Amber, Ashely, Opal and Alanna.

If you can give me any more details I might be able to find something. Were they abducted together? Were they ever found? Age range? Thanks!!!!

I agree. 'Maybe the press needs to feel some public pressure??

Ditto. I think I might be sending an e-mail to a local news agency.

We have seen over and over how little children just "vanish" in the night, no reason, no explanation, no arrest.

If I was a predator, I would probably just walk into the house of a child I know and take her.

Everyone's going to accuse the family anyway. I would feel quite safe knowing this.

People accuse the family because in 99.9999999% of cases, that's who it is. It's not illogical to suspect family in these cases.
 
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  • #278
In this particular situation, I completely understand. At one point in this thread, mods were having to step in over petty nastiness like the parents' weight every couple of hours, not mentioning some of the more legitimately unusual stuff.

I suppose I'm also not sure that parents' public pleas ever help crack a case, but I'd certainly be happy to be demonstrated to be wrong. Otherwise, I don't think they owe us anything.

It keeps the child out in the face of the public. Somer Thompson was solved by the public. Who else?

And, if it was your child, would you want her forgotten so quickly?

And LE has a responsibility for public safety.
 
  • #279
I do believe that most of the time LE knows more than they're saying... that may still be a long ways from solving the case.

I think solving it is far easier than proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
  • #280
If you can give me any more details I might be able to find something. Were they abducted together? Were they ever found? Age range? Thanks!!!!

Someone posted a link to an article a few threads back. It may have been deleted though, because now I only find my comments when I do a search.
 
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