GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #7

[kkdj]

Someone else suggested paintball.

It could be. I believe the paintballs used for paintballing wash off.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think we have been assuming pending toxicology but it doesn't state that (while others on the page do)

1308297 Tarrant Gallagher Alanna 6/12/2007 6 7/1/2013 D White F
Police Department: Saginaw Police Department
Police Svc #: 1300011904
Deceased Address: Time Of Death 7:33 PM
Occurred Location: 1027 Round Rock Drive , Saginaw, Texas 76179
Place Of Death: Public roadway
Prosector: Susan Roe, M.D.
Place Of Death Address: 1027 Round Rock Drive , Saginaw, Texas Manner Of Death: PENDING
Cause Of Death: PENDING

http://mepublic.tarrantcounty.com/mepublic/Default.aspx

In three weeks, I'll send a formal request. toxicology should be done by then.

IMO they don't want to release it, they don't have a court order sealing it and they won't need one as long as they can claim its pending.

 

[tiredblondy]

I wanted to bring over Bar2121's post about the trash pick up that day. I thought it was important.

I may not have done the quotes right. If not I hope Bessie will fix it as if she doesn't have enough do...bolded by me.. :angel:


Quote from previous thread...

Ok let's see if this works. I am new and this is my first time posting. I have followed this story since day one. I ran across this site while trying to google more information on this story. I live only 2 blocks from Alanna and my daughter went to school with her so I have been very upset about this whole ordeal. I check this thread probably 15x a day looking for any updates, in hopes that they would make an arrest so that I could rest a little easier. A lot of comments on here have been referring to the trash pick up the day Alanna went missing. I can't give an exact time but I'm wanting to say that the trash was not picked up until somewhere in between 6-8pm. I was a little annoyed by the fact that it was so late in the day and my husband and I had a specific conversation that evening when we finally heard the trucks coming down the road to pick up the trash. It was late that day and by late I mean around dinner time. It is never consistent here. The day you decide to put the trash out at 7am they won't come pick up until 7pm and then when u forget and try to run it out real quick at 9am you have already missed them.

 

[greenpalm]

It could be. I believe the paintballs used for paintballing wash off.

Yes, I think someone waaaaaay up thread said that stickers are made for vehicles that look like a paint splotch? I suppose it's the kind of thing a paintball enthusiast would have on their vehicle?

I'm really not hung up on this, I just recall someone else talking about it. Seems like a any kind of green splotch of paint, or a paintball splotch decal would be extremely identifiable by folks who knew the owner of the vehicle.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I am really starting to wonder if the COD showed Alanna drowned (or something accidentally), and no sign of sexual abuse, and that's why LE isn't behaving like a predator is responsible. IDK.

 

[briTCU]

If the red truck that had a green splotch of paint on the passenger side is involved, what would be the reason for the green paint? What type of work would green paint be used for? Trim on a house? Interior? Curb #'s?
Something commercial?

This just made me think of something. I was just telling my mom that we're constantly getting solicitors in this neighborhood (same neighborhood where Alanna was found). I moved here from a small town so maybe it's normal, but there are up to 5 a day and never less than one, except for on Sunday.

 

[IBsleuthin]

No, not to my knowledge, at least not that the family suspects. If LE has a suspect they have not informed the family of such. Personally, for what little it's worth, I think it was a local that Alanna knew. She was very smart and knew about stranger danger, but she was also a very, very friendly child and I can see her having easily been lured by someone known to her.

Thank you so very much for taking the time to come on here. You are brave and strong to be able to offer this information which I do feel is critical.

 

[IBsleuthin]

I'm not asking you to buy it, I live 2 streets over from where Alanna lived and it DID come that late and does every so often run extremely late. I can't say what one the trash was picked up in Cindy ln that day. I am only referencing the neighborhood in which she was lay seen.

Oh I'm with you on this one ullhair: We lay in bed one morning and can hear the dang truck coming down the block and thing WTH? it's 7am. Then another day we think..."Oh boy, we got it all together" and place it out at the crack of dawn and then they come at 4pm.

We live several states away from you so I was very interested in what you wrote.

Also, THANK YOU SO MUCH for coming on here and sharing this information. I am a mother and I'm an overbearing, watch everything, check everyone out type of mom and I cannot even begin to imagine what it would be like to live this close to this type of crime.

My heart and thoughts are with you and your community as you walk through the days ahead.

 

[IBsleuthin]

This just made me think of something. I was just telling my mom that we're constantly getting solicitors in this neighborhood (same neighborhood where Alanna was found). I moved here from a small town so maybe it's normal, but there are up to 5 a day and never less than one, except for on Sunday.

I'm surprised this soliciting is allowed. I 'walked' through that neighborhood on google earth today and that is a very nice neighborhood. All I could think of was if this could happen there it could happen ANYWHERE.

 

[greenpalm]

Yes, I think someone waaaaaay up thread said that stickers are made for vehicles that look like a paint splotch? I suppose it's the kind of thing a paintball enthusiast would have on their vehicle?

I'm really not hung up on this, I just recall someone else talking about it. Seems like a any kind of green splotch of paint, or a paintball splotch decal would be extremely identifiable by folks who knew the owner of the vehicle.

I did a search and found the posts in other threads where the paintball concept was discussed. If it was a paintball splat. It could be long gone. Washed right off… a vinyl decal could have easily been removed as well, although, in that case, I would hope someone close to the truck's owner would remember and notice its absence.

paintball splat?

Paintball paint.

Doesn't it come off of surfaces easily?

Maybe it wasn't real green paint on that red truck? What about a green paint splash vinyl sticker like paintball enthusiasts put on things?
http://www.vinyldisorder.com/paintba...l#.UdXWvL8dU20
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Splash...-/261055130712

 

[Janeumayer]

Was watching an episode of On The Case With Paula Zahn last night and to my surprise it was about Spotsylvania. Three girls were kidnapped and killed in 1996 and 1997 by Richard Marc Evonitz. A fourth girl was abducted but was able to escape after the abductor fell asleep. He was found but committed suicide.

Something that stood out to me was that the first girl, Sofia, was found rolled inside a mover's tarp and tied with string rope.

So Spotsylvania has at least some experience in these type of cases.

The episode's name is "Taken". Found some articles about it.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125152#.Ued6kRZJPDk

"On the day she was abducted, 16-year-old Sofia Silva was sitting on her front porch in Spotsylvania, Va., doing homework. It was Sept. 9, 1996.

Five weeks later, investigators found her body in a nearby creek.

Eight months later, it happened again, in the same town, just 70 miles south of Washington, D.C. After getting off separate school buses near their home, Kati and Kristin Lisk disappeared. The bodies of the 12- and 15-year-old sisters were found five days later, floating in a river.

In both Spotsylvania cases, there were no witnesses and almost no evidence left behind. The only clues were a few tiny fibers and a couple of strands of hair." More at above link.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jul/03/nation/na-serial3

 

[IBsleuthin]

No, not to my knowledge, at least not that the family suspects. If LE has a suspect they have not informed the family of such. Personally, for what little it's worth, I think it was a local that Alanna knew. She was very smart and knew about stranger danger, but she was also a very, very friendly child and I can see her having easily been lured by someone known to her.

Please don't write 'For what little it's worth". Your posts are providing enormous insight to this situation.

From the beginning I was stuck on this being done by someone passing through. Then today a fine Websleuther posted an overhead map of the home, and the recovery site.

After viewing this map, I posted this afternoon that I had changed my belief and I too think this was someone local.

Thank you again for taking the time to come on here, I can't imagine how upsetting this all is.

 

[kkdj]

This just made me think of something. I was just telling my mom that we're constantly getting solicitors in this neighborhood (same neighborhood where Alanna was found). I moved here from a small town so maybe it's normal, but there are up to 5 a day and never less than one, except for on Sunday.

I would not like that. I live in a very populated area and while we have some solicitors, never that many. Some people here have put up no soliciting signs on their property.

 

[briTCU]

I'm surprised this soliciting is allowed. I 'walked' through that neighborhood on google earth today and that is a very nice neighborhood. All I could think of was if this could happen there it could happen ANYWHERE.

So it's not normal then. That's good to know, I'm going to call the city about it tomorrow. Anyway, with all the extra foot traffic around it could be something. I just wish someone would come forward and say I saw her at so and so time/location. Maybe it's just in this neighborhood. LE really needs to get Alanna back in the news by holding another PC if they really are at a deadend.

 

[greenpalm]

I'm surprised this soliciting is allowed. I 'walked' through that neighborhood on google earth today and that is a very nice neighborhood. All I could think of was if this could happen there it could happen ANYWHERE.

Soliciting generally depends on a city ordinance, not neighborhood (I don't think). In my city, if I have a "No Soliciting" sign they can't knock on my door, it's illegal for sales people to knock.

In other cities, like Richardson, for example, door to door soliciting is completely forbidden. A friend who lives there has a copy of the ordinance taped to her front door window. She just likes to remind people before they knock.

That doesn't stop some people though. They knock anyway. Most sales people are deterred by my sign. I still get a few who miss it, or ignore it.

Door to door sales people ALWAYS give me the creeps.

 

[IBsleuthin]

I realize that a lot of you have already read this manual. I find page 37 quite interesting.




http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles...)/Child_Abduction_Murder_Research/CMIIPDF.pdf

 

[IBsleuthin]

So it's not normal then. That's good to know, I'm going to call the city about it tomorrow. Anyway, with all the extra foot traffic around it could be something. I just wish someone would come forward and say I saw her at so and so time/location. Maybe it's just in this neighborhood. LE really needs to get Alanna back in the news by holding another PC if they really are at a deadend.

There is no law that says you have to answer your door.

Also, (I'll spare you the details) from knowing someone who sold a lot of stuff in different towns, I thought they had to get a LICENSE or a PERMIT of some kind to sell stuff door to door in the neighborhood.

We get some pretty funky young folks trying to sell us windshield washing fluid and also frozen steaks.

I just turn to them and say, "You can see me?" I told the doctor no one could see me with my invisibility cloak on."

They usually leave me alone then. :floorlaugh:

 

[LDhummingbird]

Did Alanna's parents know where she was in the afternoon?

What time did they see her last?

Did Alanna ever have sleepovers at her friends houses?

What time did Alanna's parents alert you she was missing?

Missed this one earlier.

Alanna's parents thought she'd gone to play at a certain friend's house, but those friends weren't home.

I don't know exactly what time she was seen last.

I don't know of her ever having had sleepovers.

LG texted me at 10:30 at night to tell me everything that was going on. Up until that point, she had been busy looking for Alanna.

 

[kkdj]

So it's not normal then. That's good to know, I'm going to call the city about it tomorrow. Anyway, with all the extra foot traffic around it could be something. I just wish someone would come forward and say I saw her at so and so time/location. Maybe it's just in this neighborhood. LE really needs to get Alanna back in the news by holding another PC if they really are at a deadend.

Definitely call about it. I dont think thats normal for that much let alone privacy issues and harassment. (I find solicitors a form of harassment).

 

[IBsleuthin]

..."Contrary to perceptions that killers who kill children are 'loners', only 17.1% of the killers lived alone, while 78.4% of them lived with someone.


http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles...)/Child_Abduction_Murder_Research/CMIIPDF.pdf





*sigh.