TX TX - Alexandria Lowitzer, 16, Spring, 26 April 2010 - #2

[Aurora90]

The timing of it was so precise. It feels like it was planned/ pre-arranged somehow.

I mean, even if you knew Alexandria and got off school at the same time as her and wanted to meet her at her place or something. Even just to see if she could hang out. It’s still such a small window of opportunity.

She lived so close to the burger barn. And according to the footage, she didn’t even make it halfway.

And again IIRC, the phone was turned off almost immediately. If you were just going to get into a car for a very brief moment and head back to the burger barn, why would you turn your phone off?

And if it wasn’t her, it was too soon for anything to have immediately happened. I think it was within the first five or six minutes or something to that effect?

@ekardh I also am very intrigued to know more about your correspondence.

 

[Aurora90]

Came here after listening to the Voices for Justice podcast episode on Ali’s case. It left me with a couple of questions that maybe have already been answered..

1. How populated was the area from Ali’s house to the Burger Barn? Were there cameras at any store in that area that could’ve caught her walking?

2. She stopped all contact at 3pm but who was she in contact with up until then?

I think it was her mom that she was in contact with as well as someone that she was planning to see later on that night. She had been texting them leading up to ceasing all contact at around 3 PM.

 

[Aurora90]

She was texting, I believe, up until 2:57 with friends, in particular her boyfriend (new bf), trying to make plans to meet up with him if she couldn't pick up a shift at work.

I’ve only ever heard him being described as a friend. Has it been confirmed that that was her boyfriend?

And from what I remember, he was going to go to her house think they were possibly going to watch a movie. He was meant to come over later that evening. Possibly around nine or 10 PM? But I don’t believe it was dependent on whether or not she picked up a shift at work.

 

[Aurora90]

You think it could be similar to what happened to Leah Croucher? That is an interesting point.

Exactly. I had actually never heard of Leah's case, but it certainly seems plausible that something along those lines could have happened to Ali.

That’s so interesting. Hearing other opinions of what might’ve happened to Alexandria.

I am of the opinion that the circumstances of her disappearance is similar to that of Sarah Kinslow. Funny how a case I literally just found out about keeps coming to mind as I reread Alexandria‘s thread.

 

[Aurora90]

I’ve only ever heard him being described as a friend. Has it been confirmed that that was her boyfriend?

And from what I remember, he was going to go to her house think they were possibly going to watch a movie. He was meant to come over later that evening. Possibly around nine or 10 PM? But I don’t believe it was dependent on whether or not she picked up a shift at work.

Adding to my thought to state a few things.

When I was watching her Disappeared episode and there was a mention of her friend coming over it made sense to me. Her mom was protective and although she wasn’t allowed to go out, it was evident that people were allowed to come over.

Which got me thinking…

Could she have possibly gone to pick up drugs? To do in her room or later on with the guy that was supposed to come over later?

There are so many people who I’m sure have made statements to police. I feel like they have a lot more information, which has likely led them towards a possible theory. I just wish we knew what it was.

I bet her phone log alone has revealed a few things. And I’m sure her friends were more than willing to share everything they knew to the authorities.

I hope one day there is a resolution to this case.

 

[ekardh]

@ekardh I also am very intrigued to know more about your correspondence.

I've always been hesitant about the amount of information that I can reveal. It was told to me in confidence over private correspondence several years back. I'm fairly sure Ali's family wouldn't appreciate a lot it being in the public eye. After all, this is only one person's take on things, but I approached this person as part of my investigation, they didn't come to me.

The friend claims that Ali was talking to an older guy, and pretty much everyone knew it. I assume by "everyone" she's referring to their classmates. She said that one of Ali's best friends at the time told her Ali had plans to runaway to Mexico with this older guy.

Without going into too much detail, the rest of the picture she painted of Ali was not a happy or positive one. The friend had moved away at one point, and when she returned to high school and saw Ali again, she was not the same girl she had befriended.

The friend also noted that Ali started gaining weight before her disappearance. Something that I also observed whilst looking through pictures. It could be Ali was naturally filling out, or she had an unhealthy diet, but I've also theorized that Ali might have been pregnant.... although you'd think her family would've noticed this. But that could be the motive for someone (i.e. an older male) suddenly wanting to get rid of her.

 

[Aurora90]

I've always been hesitant about the amount of information that I can reveal. It was told to me in confidence over private correspondence several years back. I'm fairly sure Ali's family wouldn't appreciate a lot it being in the public eye. After all, this is only one person's take on things, but I approached this person as part of my investigation, they didn't come to me.

The friend claims that Ali was talking to an older guy, and pretty much everyone knew it. I assume by "everyone" she's referring to their classmates. She said that one of Ali's best friends at the time told her Ali had plans to runaway to Mexico with this older guy.

Without going into too much detail, the rest of the picture she painted of Ali was not a happy or positive one. The friend had moved away at one point, and when she returned to high school and saw Ali again, she was not the same girl she had befriended.

The friend also noted that Ali started gaining weight before her disappearance. Something that I also observed whilst looking through pictures. It could be Ali was naturally filling out, or she had an unhealthy diet, but I've also theorized that Ali might have been pregnant.... although you'd think her family would've noticed this. But that could be the motive for someone (i.e. an older male) suddenly wanting to get rid of her.

I completely understand. I won’t press it further. There’s just so little information to go off of, and I think the unknown can be frustrating at times. Especially when it’s a case you follow up on from time to time. It’s surprising how one can get invested in these things.

It’s interesting that you say that she might’ve been pregnant because I was thinking the exact same thing. The exact same thing happened to Sarah Kinslow.

And if the father of the child was over 18…. Well, then that could be a point of contention.

 

[Tired Professor]

The friend also noted that Ali started gaining weight before her disappearance. Something that I also observed whilst looking through pictures. It could be Ali was naturally filling out, or she had an unhealthy diet, but I've also theorized that Ali might have been pregnant.... although you'd think her family would've noticed this. But that could be the motive for someone (i.e. an older male) suddenly wanting to get rid of her.

Interesting. Could you tell from the pictures if the weight gain was prior to about 6 months before her disappearance or more recent than that? So many things can cause sudden weight gain in teen girls - weed, anti-depressants or even recently quitting a sport if it is one that she regularly trained for and participated in. But if it was quite sudden and recent weight gain, then perhaps she was pregnant. A very long time ago on Reddit, someone who appeared to be mom replied to someone “there are things about the case, not made public”, but didn’t give anymore details.

 

[Aurora90]

Interesting. Could you tell from the pictures if the weight gain was prior to about 6 months before her disappearance or more recent than that? So many things can cause sudden weight gain in teen girls - weed, anti-depressants or even recently quitting a sport if it is one that she regularly trained for and participated in. But if it was quite sudden and recent weight gain, then perhaps she was pregnant. A very long time ago on Reddit, someone who appeared to be mom replied to someone “there are things about the case, not made public”, but didn’t give anymore details.

This was my line of thinking as well. Much like Sarah Kinslow.

 

[FaerieDust]

Interesting. Could you tell from the pictures if the weight gain was prior to about 6 months before her disappearance or more recent than that? So many things can cause sudden weight gain in teen girls - weed, anti-depressants or even recently quitting a sport if it is one that she regularly trained for and participated in. But if it was quite sudden and recent weight gain, then perhaps she was pregnant. A very long time ago on Reddit, someone who appeared to be mom replied to someone “there are things about the case, not made public”, but didn’t give anymore details.

How easy is it for a teenager in the USA to access hormonal contraceptives without a parent knowing? Weight gain could be related to hormonal contraceptives, and indicate that Ali had become sexually active which is not uncommon for teens all over the world, especially back in 2010 (Ali and I are a similar age). I see that some form of birth control pills are available ‘over the counter’ in Walmart but how long has that been a thing?

I say that because in the UK for example at Ali’s age you could access hormonal contraceptives including things like Nexplanon without parental consent, in most towns at a sexual health clinic (and under 18s are prioritised for these services to prevent teen pregnancy), but I’m not sure how different the US is for stuff like that. Of course the nurses there were very judgmental, but that never stopped anyone, especially the more ‘edgy’ or ‘alternative’ kids who were looking to challenge authority figures.

 

[Tired Professor]

How easy is it for a teenager in the USA to access hormonal contraceptives without a parent knowing? Weight gain could be related to hormonal contraceptives, and indicate that Ali had become sexually active which is not uncommon for teens all over the world, especially back in 2010 (Ali and I are a similar age). I see that some form of birth control pills are available ‘over the counter’ in Walmart but how long has that been a thing?

I say that because in the UK for example at Ali’s age you could access hormonal contraceptives including things like Nexplanon without parental consent, in most towns at a sexual health clinic (and under 18s are prioritised for these services to prevent teen pregnancy), but I’m not sure how different the US is for stuff like that. Of course the nurses there were very judgmental, but that never stopped anyone, especially the more ‘edgy’ or ‘alternative’ kids who were looking to challenge authority figures.

I believe the UK is way ahead of the US based on what you described. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I think it really varies depending on where you are. Some states have different rules regarding teens and prescribing birth control when a parent is not involved to give permission. If a teen lives in a rural area, they may not even have access to anything better than a gas station condom, unfortunately.

 

[Aurora90]

I believe the UK is way ahead of the US based on what you described. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I think it really varies depending on where you are. Some states have different rules regarding teens and prescribing birth control when a parent is not involved to give permission. If a teen lives in a rural area, they may not even have access to anything better than a gas station condom, unfortunately.

Agreed. I also think it depends on the community that the girl might’ve been in. For example, in more conservative States, girls might feel more pressure from their families, their church and everything else in between. Even if certain resources are available. it’s akin to the drastic difference between how Ireland and England handle it.

I also think in more rural locations of America certain resources are harder to find. And then when you include the stigma, religious dogma, and overall “small-town” gossip/judgment. Well….

If I am remembering correctly, in certain States teachers are barely allowed to even teach sex education.

I remember reading something about the state of Mississippi and that it was the lowest in ratings in terms of education and yet the highest in teen pregnancy.

Teachers were not allowed to teach various contraception methods in class. The only method they were allowed to teach in sex was abstinence. That’s it.

I think there was a John Oliver segment about it that was incredibly eye-opening.

There was a video of one teacher who was willing to accept punishment and be fired in order to teach them about contraception methods. The fact that a teachers job was at risk when they were doing the very thing that their job entailed is incredibly surprising.

Besides when you’re talking about abstinence as the SOLE method to prevent pregnancy when it comes to hormonal and horny teenagers, well….. that doesn’t really work.

It’s about as effective as the pull-up method if you ask me lol.

 

[ekardh]

This was my line of thinking as well. Much like Sarah Kinslow.

Thank you for mentioning this case. I believe this is a new one to me.

This is pretty much the scenario I'm picturing, except we don't know the name of Ali's older guy.