Found Deceased TX - Allison Chapman Kempe, 41, Richmond, 2021 9 July

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Reading this heartbreaking thread reminds me so much of Erica Hernandez’s. :(

Prayers for the family; bless her children’s hearts.

Yes and also like Courtney Johnson in Louisiana who was driving to the casino and ran off the road into water. She left a son too.
Oh I feel so sad for these families.
 
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Dang. It was the most plausible explanation. Just horrible, for her and her family. *sad*
 
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This article, which is also linked above, includes a link to Google Maps showing the park that she was found near. I cannot figure out how she got into the river in that spot. If she stayed on FM 359 there are fences, trees, and guardrails virtually preventing her from getting into the river. Did she go to the park for some reason? The river runs through the park and is much less protected than on FM 359. I don't get it. IMO

FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com
 
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This article, which is also linked above, includes a link to Google Maps showing the park that she was found near. I cannot figure out how she got into the river in that spot. If she stayed on FM 359 there are fences, trees, and guardrails virtually preventing her from getting into the river. Did she go to the park for some reason? The river runs through the park and is much less protected than on FM 359. I don't get it. IMO

FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com

If she did have a few drinks at the restaurant, maybe she realized she needed to pull over into the park and sober up? I don’t know. This is just odd.
 
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If she did have a few drinks at the restaurant, maybe she realized she needed to pull over into the park and sober up? I don’t know. This is just odd.

Could be. It doesn't appear that the car could have traveled under either FM 359 or FM 723 so she had to go in the water somewhere between those two roads, IMO. Aside from the park the only entry options that I have found are on private property.
 
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This article, which is also linked above, includes a link to Google Maps showing the park that she was found near. I cannot figure out how she got into the river in that spot. If she stayed on FM 359 there are fences, trees, and guardrails virtually preventing her from getting into the river. Did she go to the park for some reason? The river runs through the park and is much less protected than on FM 359. I don't get it. IMO

FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com

Upthread @Tbone144 post talked about some Friday flash flood warnings on the southwest side of Houston, and am also wondering if it pertained to this area? Would that make a difference or is it still too protected to go off there?
 
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Upthread @Tbone144 post talked about some Friday flash flood warnings on the southwest side of Houston, and am also wondering if it pertained to this area? Would that make a difference or is it still too protected to go off there?

By my interpretation the water would still be too protected to drive into the river itself without breaking down a barrier, like a fence or a tree. Maybe the water level could get high enough that a vehicle could go off the road and get wet before you hit an impediment, such as a fence, but it wouldn't be submerged and definitely couldn't somehow get to the river proper.

I can see the higher water level contributing to both movement of the vehicle once in the river and also to likelihood of drowning.

IMO
 
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I can tell you that Jones Creek overflows it's banks. There is ALOT of water and relatively low land in that area. During Harvey, 17 neighborhoods were flooded when Jones Creek came up out of it's banks. That water can rise fast and LARGE, and it's disorienting at night. Those "creeks" can be trickling one day and look like a lake the next when the water comes up. We've had alot of hard hard rain in that area this week. It's reported that the car became visible when the waters receded, which means that the waters were up.
 
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I can tell you that Jones Creek overflows it's banks. There is ALOT of water and relatively low land in that area. During Harvey, 17 neighborhoods were flooded when Jones Creek came up out of it's banks. That water can rise fast and LARGE, and it's disorienting at night. Those "creeks" can be trickling one day and look like a lake the next when the water comes up. We've had alot of hard hard rain in that area this week. It's reported that the car became visible when the waters receded, which means that the waters were up.

Makes sense.

By the video in the news article the car was in the river itself, or in the middle, not dozens of feet from the middle, so I still don't see how the car could get in there. Even if the FTM road was totally flooded out I can't imagine how the car would float to the middle of the river. IMO
 
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Over the years I’ve read several stories on here like this. It’s so sad. Also made me purchase a small hammer tool that I carry at all times. When the water is rushing all around the vehicle it’s impossible to open the doors. Sometimes the only choice is to break a window. Poor girl. RIP.
 
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This article, which is also linked above, includes a link to Google Maps showing the park that she was found near. I cannot figure out how she got into the river in that spot. If she stayed on FM 359 there are fences, trees, and guardrails virtually preventing her from getting into the river. Did she go to the park for some reason? The river runs through the park and is much less protected than on FM 359. I don't get it. IMO

FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com

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Under LE’s initial post about her missing, there are some comments and links posted that seem to discuss the same concern/question.
 
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Under LE’s initial post about her missing, there are some comments and links posted that seem to discuss the same concern/question.
I have seen some odd/weird things happen during flooding or high water events. The current of a smaller stream of water can backflow, the normal lane of traffic can dissappear & leave a driver disoriented & confused - even panicked & desperate maybe. So I'm not going to be too quick to jump on the conspiracy train. ...but yeah, there's some interesting stuff in those comments.
 
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I have seen some odd/weird things happen during flooding or high water events. The current of a smaller stream of water can backflow, the normal lane of traffic can dissappear & leave a driver disoriented & confused - even panicked & desperate maybe. So I'm not going to be too quick to jump on the conspiracy train. ...but yeah, there's some interesting stuff in those comments.

I truly believe this was a very tragic accident.
 
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I truly believe this was a very tragic accident.
I absolutely agree! ...but I'm going to keep one eye on how comments & discussions develop here. I really don't think it will lead to anything but it could be interesting to monitor.
 
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I wonder who she was with at the restaurant?

Was she drinking? Did the restaurant over serve her?

The ME's office would probably conduct a blood alcohol and a screening test for drugs too to determine that and if she possibly drove herself off the road and into the creek. They would also know if she died an unusual death. Her stomach contents would probably tell what she ate at the restaurant before she died, unless she died after 6 or more hours of eating when the food is digested.
 
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Makes sense.

By the video in the news article the car was in the river itself, or in the middle, not dozens of feet from the middle, so I still don't see how the car could get in there. Even if the FTM road was totally flooded out I can't imagine how the car would float to the middle of the river. IMO
According to investigators, they don't believe foul play was involved in the woman's death. They also said they didn't find many tire marks where they believe the vehicle left the road and entered the water. They said the vehicle floated about 100 yards down the creek from where it entered and the air in the tires may have allowed it to do that.
FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com
 
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Makes sense.

By the video in the news article the car was in the river itself, or in the middle, not dozens of feet from the middle, so I still don't see how the car could get in there. Even if the FTM road was totally flooded out I can't imagine how the car would float to the middle of the river. IMO

But it did. How else would it get there? Nobody "put" it there, or dropped it there, or drove it there. Water is POWERFUL and if water was up and moving swiftly, it would have been flowing toward the river, and then up the river (from the road). Cars float.. big ol' pickup trucks will float for short distances until they sink. Maybe something ran out in front of her? Maybe she avoided another vehicle? Maybe she was texting? Maybe she was drinking? Maybe the road was wet and it was dark and she was disoriented? It appears that she was driving home on 359, and left the road (probably on the left just before the guardrail) and got caught in the current of water running into a swollen and running river. The car easily floated 100 yards or so, pretty swifty, before taking on water and sinking. IMO

Tragic accidents happen.
 
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But it did. How else would it get there? Nobody "put" it there, or dropped it there, or drove it there. Water is POWERFUL and if water was up and moving swiftly, it would have been flowing toward the river, and then up the river (from the road). Cars float.. big ol' pickup trucks will float for short distances until they sink. Maybe something ran out in front of her? Maybe she avoided another vehicle? Maybe she was texting? Maybe she was drinking? Maybe the road was wet and it was dark and she was disoriented? It appears that she was driving home on 359, and left the road (probably on the left just before the guardrail) and got caught in the current of water running into a swollen and running river. The car easily floated 100 yards or so, pretty swifty, before taking on water and sinking. IMO

Tragic accidents happen.

I don't think we are necessarily disagreeing. Maybe so or maybe I'm not being clear so let me try again, just in case. My point is that I don't believe she went into the river from either FM 359 or FM 723. I suspect (without evidence) that she was in the park for some reason and went into the river there. In the news video linked below you can see an area where this could have easily happened at about 44 seconds, when the camera pans away from the reporter. No fence, no trees, a person could drive a car right into the river. There are even tire tracks (perhaps from a recovery vehicle).

So that is my answer to your question. How did it [the car] get there? Rather than floating over a fence it got there because she was already inside the park with easy access to the river.

FBCSO: Missing woman's SUV possibly found in water near Richmond | khou.com

Sure the water the was high and sure the car floated down the river once it was in. No argument. And since some people are using the word conspiracy I'll also say that I'm not alleging any conspiracy or wrongdoing.

In summary, I suspect Allison was in the park when she went into the river and I don't know why she would have been in the park. That is all.

IMO
 

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