• #901
Thanks @Megnut just read yours I am up to speed just like that. I think a group hug is in order, today's testimony is shaping up to be very difficult.

🫂 🫂 🫂 🫂

adding the link to live updates for today: Live trial updates day 4
 
  • #902
okay, court is in session, I am just now joining so may need a sec to get up to speed with where we are
FYI you can watch livestream video at 2x speed to catch up quickly.

He's just been talking about processing the trucks.
 
  • #903
I am haunted by the image of her in the truck.

If that didn't break me, today will.

JMO
 
  • #904
I hope the State and the Court exercise enormous discretion today and play the audio for the jury only.

It doesn't belong on the internet.
 
  • #905
without being gross or graphic, the clothing found, including undies, at Horner's shed/home didn't appear in the photograph exhibits we saw yesterday to be soiled in a way that I would expect if Athena had soiled herself while clothed. That leads me to believe the soiling self more likely than not happened while she was unclothed :(
 
  • #906
I hope the State and the Court exercise enormous discretion today and play the audio for the jury only.

It doesn't belong on the internet.
That was on my mind a lot last night. I thought how many pedo pervs out there would find the audio titillating? Get enjoyment from hearing and replaying it for their own gratification? That thought kept me awake for a long while.
 
  • #907
If the judge overrules nearly every objection by the defense can that expose the final sentencing to an appeal? I’m unclear about rules of the sentencing hearing. Letecia’s recent appeal has made me nervous.
 
  • #908
Court is live, detective back on the stand.

Testimony, collecting SIM cards from the two FedEx trucks.

We're all going to need to exercise self-care today.

Just got here!
Which detective - the last guy that was on yesterday? FBI Special Agent Kurt Ross [Crime Scene Specialist].
 
  • #909
Witness is describing forensic techniques used to locate bodily fluids from the truck. He was made aware by others involved in the investigation that Horner had attempted to clean the van, therefore a stronger light was used in their examinations.

Photos of the results of their search/examination are being entered into evidence. States exhibits 117 through 139

defense objects claiming the photos are part of a police report and therefor inadmissible as hearsay. Judge will hold on to exhibit 126 in abeyance for now, the rest are allowed.
 
  • #910
That was on my mind a lot last night. I thought how many pedo pervs out there would find the audio titillating? Get enjoyment from hearing and replaying it for their own gratification? That thought kept me awake for a long while.

I hope, for that very reason, it's permanently sealed, played only for the jury -- and limited courtroom, if required -- and never leaked.

JMO
 
  • #911
There was a previous link - to where you could see "who" was on the stand.... anyone have that one. They would put up who was on the stand.
 
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  • #912
tie down straps found in the back of the truck are featured in the first photo.

exhibit 123 is bungee cords found in the truck.

as truck was being processed the bungies and tie down straps were collected.

The fact that defense is doing a lot of objecting to further information being elicited form this witness as to why they were collected nd examined tells me all I need to know about where this may be headed :(
 
  • #913
  • #914
Witness is describing forensic techniques used to locate bodily fluids from the truck. He was made aware by others involved in the investigation that Horner had attempted to clean the van, therefore a stronger light was used in their examinations.

Photos of the results of their search/examination are being entered into evidence. States exhibits 117 through 139

defense objects claiming the photos are part of a police report and therefor inadmissible as hearsay. Judge will hold on to exhibit 126 in abeyance for now, the rest are allowed.
I believe he sustained those objections.

Defense is forcing away from streaming their case. This witness could synthesize reports of other LE because they were all working together but the Defense and Court are insisting the State bring in each LE to testify to his own report.

Technically correct.

It's just messing with the State's flow. IMO it's all coming in, just not at the time and through the witness on the stand.

JMO
 
  • #915
There was a previous link - to wear you could see "who" was on the stand.... anyone have that one. They would put up who was on the stand.
This local TV station link states the man on the stand is Kurt Duross, FBI Special Agent.

( looks completely different from the man on the stand yesterday )

 
  • #916
Just got here!
Which detective - the last guy that was on yesterday? FBI Special Agent Kurt Ross [Crime Scene Specialist].

Same
 
  • #917
This local TV station link states the man on the stand is Kurt Duross, FBI Special Agent.

( looks completely different from the man on the stand yesterday )


He took the stand late in the day yesterday.
 
  • #918
I believe he sustained those objections.

Defense is forcing away from streaming their case. This witness could synthesize reports of other LE because they were all working together but the Defense and Court are insisting the State bring in each LE to testify to his own report.

Technically correct.

It's just messing with the State's flow. IMO it's all coming in, just not at the time and through the witness on the stand.

JMO
yes, just messing with their flow, but it will all come out, the state will just have to take the long way home to get there. :(
 
  • #919
Did the judge cut the feed?

Green screen on CourtTV.
 
  • #920
Did the judge cut the feed?

Green screen on CourtTV.
Judge George Gallagher said that even though Horner pleaded guilty, the jury will be allowed to hear the entire case so that they can decide his sentence: death or life in prison without parole. Gallagher warned that the testimony would be graphic. While we are streaming the trial, we may cut away during the more disturbing testimony, but we will return as soon as we can.
Day 4 continues as the jury decides Tanner Horner’s sentence
 

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