GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[Dotta]

"Killer FedEx driver Tanner Horner ​

filmed cleaning van ​

after abducting & murdering Athena Strand.​

Horner appeared to light up and calmly smoke a cigarette
after completing a deep cleanse of his van."



Warning: Graphic Content

Tanner Horner filmed cleaning his van after murdering Athena Strand, 7

A photo displayed last week showed Athena kneeling near Horner in the van before he killed her.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[RubyLee87]

I remember the Cherish Perrywinkle case too, it haunted me for a long time as I am sure this one will every now and then I check to see if Cherish’s murderer has received the death penalty yet but it seems he’s endlessly appealing it.

 

[iamshadow21]

I remember the Cherish Perrywinkle case too, it haunted me for a long time as I am sure this one will every now and then I check to see if Cherish’s murderer has received the death penalty yet but it seems he’s endlessly appealing it.

Yes, Cherish. Shaniya Davis and Cupcake, too.

The people who hurt them should never be free. They forfeited their membership in the human race.

MOO

 

[scapa]

Don’t forget “I feel much better now.”

Agree -- absolutely crucial if throwaway comment.

Of course he felt better -- he, TH and not "Zero," had finally achieved a fantasy likely years in the making.

Even better than getting that regular, unchanging route that the big bad FedEx subcontractor took away from him.

This case is among the most horrific I've ever followed, and I'm tapping out now -- a privilege, of course, that was never afforded Athena by her sadistic murderer.

I hope and expect that TH will receive the DP and hopefully will remain offscreen during the upcoming years/ decades of appeals, etc. Thanks to all who report on and support A and her grievously wounded family and friends, who have had to live through this nightmare, and still will long after final gavel.

 

[scapa]

from watching and reading about true crime for years post an event such as murder the adrenaline crash is huge, murderers are often very sleepy or chilled, I remember the young girl and her boyfriend who murdered 3 members of her family went home and slept, if I could hide this sentence under a blue sticker I would but am not tech savvy enough to do so but it is almost similar to post coital,

Are you thinking of Richardson family murders in Alberta, Canada? Sadly no doubt quite a few others fit here.

 

[mickey2942]

I am interested in the defense that will be put forward. If one is done. Chad Daybell did not say or have any defense against his DP sentence.

 

[steeltowngirl]

And I doubt I’d ever keep Jingle Bell Rock on ever again when I hear it played.
Heartless, cruel, there really are no words.

Sadly, you're right. You will think of of this case any time you hear Jingle Bell Rock. It happened to me with the Waukesha parade attack case. I can't hear Mariah Carey's "All I want for a Christmas" without thinking of that case.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Death Row Information

I’ve been browsing Texas’s death row population

49 years is the oldest inmate waiting. Crazy. TX heavy on the DP for murdering people and cop killers. If he does get the DP, someone will probably take him out sooner, considering how horrific it was, and the guards will look away. This personally is what I want. General pop. Have at him.

 

[TMich6811]

There are alternates in every jury for reasons of illness, etc. In a big trial, there will be at least two alternates. Walking away would only cause an alternate to be empaneled, and they've been watching the trial same as the others.

Speculation only, I wonder if this is stopping anyone but this guy. The problem with child sex predators is that very little will ever stop them. In fact, the release of all of these awful details is probably the opposite of a deterrent. (Stopping this guy is a good thing, obviously.)

Im aware of the process but it’s my point. That’s not really fair either is it? A couple get to be left out if the stress but the replacements and rest don’t?

 

[Pseudonymph]

Im aware of the process but it’s my point. That’s not really fair either is it? A couple get to be left out if the stress but the replacements and rest don’t?

Nobody should be forced to be subjected to this. If somebody wanted to nope out of there, I would understand. It’s not a typical expectation to watch/listen to a snuff film.

 

[Dotta]

"Here’s why ​

FedEx killer Tanner Horner’s trial​

is being paused for days.​

From Friday until Tuesday,
the judge and attorneys on both sides will meet without the jury present,
as part of so-called Daubert hearings.

The judge will determine the admissibility of expert witness testimony
before the jury is able to hear it."

Here’s why FedEx killer Tanner Horner’s trial is being paused for days

“This is actually fairly normal in death penalty cases,” attorney John Helms explained.

nypost.com

 

[Walela]

I am interested in the defense that will be put forward. If one is done. Chad Daybell did not say or have any defense against his DP sentence.

No doubt there will be some sort of a defense response and most probably pointing out what they perceive is a personality disorder(s) untreated or treated with the wrong meds, childhood trauma, baseline stupidity, low IQ, bullied in school, absentee father, experienced SA himself as a child, forced to watch smut by whomever he can think of, not allowed to eat hot dogs as a child/ forced to eat hot dogs as a child, peanut allergy, etc. Appeal(s) of whatever sentence is handed down is allowed so I'm hoping his lawyers don't make any errors that would lend to improper defense appeal. I'm also hoping the state hasn't made any errors and that the judge is pristine in his jury charge. I would not want to see any part of these judicial proceedings overturned on appeal.

As for the DP, he is a stellar candidate, his crime is exemplary in every way that the people of Texas meant when they passed the legislation. I personally think the manner a death sentence is carried out now is way too easy. Too peaceful. Just close their eyes, breath deep and go to sleep. To have to experience the exact same manner of death as they meted out, in my opinion, would suffice. The years this convict will spend on death row just can't equate with what he did to Athena.
moo

 

[seasideForest]

I think it's cruel to make the jury listen to that and disgusting to allow him to listen to it and probably enjoy it. The whole thing is grotesque. How about a transcript to read, with an expert testifying about what is depicted? The jury system shouldn't be designed to traumatize jurors, and yes, I have served on two juries. I would have left and excused myself from serving.

I'm no good at linking from my phone but I found information on jury support in brutal criminal cases, and there is support in Texas for jurors in cases of murder and sexual assault. Different types available during and after the court case. They mention measures taken to reduce stress on jurors during proceedings, like not leaving graphic depictions up any longer than necessary.

Also explaining in advance how to deal with the information, there are ways to separate your feelings from your thoughts, and to NOT dwell on images and regurgitate them in your own mind. I've learnt that in trauma therapy for going forwards. Otoh I don't know how quickly someone can learn and then apply those skills.

Also if anybody has done jury duty in Texas in the past 15 years and says this is hogwash, then you know better.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Sadly, you're right. You will think of of this case any time you hear Jingle Bell Rock. It happened to me with the Waukesha parade attack case. I can't hear Mariah Carey's "All I want for a Christmas" without thinking of that case.

And FedEx and other delivery trucks.

I can't fathom how her family lives forward... in the real world... he stole so much innocence. He stole all the innocence.

JMO

 

[alexwood]

I remember the Cherish Perrywinkle case too, it haunted me for a long time as I am sure this one will every now and then I check to see if Cherish’s murderer has received the death penalty yet but it seems he’s endlessly appealing it.

Oh, yeah. It seems that in Texas it would take 12 years from sentencing to carrying out the death penalty. So, Donald Smith (Cherish Periwinkle case) murdered her in 2013, was convicted in 2018 (5 years later!), and here we are . . . April 2026 and he's still alive and breathing. It just seems to be taking longer in Florida -- but it still hasn't been 12 years since his conviction. The thing is, it took five years for him to be brought to trial! What a waste of time. However, he was found guilty in 15 minutes by the jury. I think we will see a similar time frame for this jury, with monster "TH".

 

[Walela]

I'm no good at linking from my phone but I found information on jury support in brutal criminal cases, and there is support in Texas for jurors in cases of murder and sexual assault. Different types available during and after the court case. They mention measures taken to reduce stress on jurors during proceedings, like not leaving graphic depictions up any longer than necessary.

Also explaining in advance how to deal with the information, there are ways to separate your feelings from your thoughts, and to NOT dwell on images and regurgitate them in your own mind. I've learnt that in trauma therapy for going forwards. Otoh I don't know how quickly someone can learn and then apply those skills.

Also if anybody has done jury duty in Texas in the past 15 years and says this is hogwash, then you know better.

JMO

House Bill 608 provides support and counseling services for jurors but the legislature did not provide any funding. That's left up to the counties. Smaller counties without adequate funding may not offer these services. The larger counties like Travis, Dallas, Harris, Tarrant for example do have these services.
Here is a link to HB608
Another good article on juror support in Texas is HERE

 

[seasideForest]

House Bill 608 provides support and counseling services for jurors but the legislature did not provide any funding. That's left up to the counties. Smaller counties without adequate funding may not offer these services. The larger counties like Travis, Dallas, Harris, Tarrant for example do have these services.
Here is a link to HB608
Another good article on juror support in Texas is HERE

Thanks for the additional information. Things don't always work out IRL the way they're meant to on paper. It's the second link I read.

I also got info from statebartexas.com.

 

[patty24]

And FedEx and other delivery trucks.

I can't fathom how her family lives forward... in the real world... he stole so much innocence. He stole all the innocence.

JMO

Yes, you’re right. This will come to mind at the sight of those trucks/ the FedEx logo. They are all over.

 

[mickey2942]

"Here’s why ​

FedEx killer Tanner Horner’s trial​

is being paused for days.​

From Friday until Tuesday,
the judge and attorneys on both sides will meet without the jury present,
as part of so-called Daubert hearings.

The judge will determine the admissibility of expert witness testimony
before the jury is able to hear it."

Here’s why FedEx killer Tanner Horner’s trial is being paused for days

“This is actually fairly normal in death penalty cases,” attorney John Helms explained.

nypost.com

Disgusting. The defense wants to throw everything but the kitchen sink in here. Personality disorder, Autism, learning disabilities, PTSD.

Whatever. There is zero potential for rehabilitation here. TH is an inhumane psychopath. I read that he tried to commit suicide in jail, probably punked out on it.

He kidnapped and abused a defenseless child. Who literally was no threat to him. Ruined lives.

I absolutely do not see what sort of whining self serving defense is even worth presenting that will overcome the inhumanity of this defendant.

 

[CountessOfKensington]

I'm curious about the timeline. The cctv still image of her kneeling in the truck with him behind the wheel has a time of 23.42. In the image she is fully clothed and doesn't looked injured, in my mind he hadn't started his assault on her yet. If he snatched her at approx 17.30 was he driving around with her doing deliveries in the back for all that time?

The cctv still image taken of him cleaning the truck is at 01.24 so we know she was assaulted and her life ended between 23.42 and 01.24.

I'm just curious where was he driving/what was he doing between 17.30-23.42?

Were the jury shown the 4 hours of continuous cctv footage from 17.30-23.42?