GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

[Leilei]

Dr John Edens, Psychologist takes the stand for the defense.

It was reported by WFAA reporter that TH's mother will not physically be in court ( due to her many mental health issues) but will be allowed to testify via a pre-recorded interview. Possibly today.

If she testifies, I hope the prosecutor asks about that "I know how you can get" comment.
I mean really push her on it.
She knew what he was capable of.
IMO.

 

[CHEL]

If he says wax and wane one more time.

 

[RaspberryMama]

This witness is talking about the murder rate in prison being very low. IMO, they are taking this line of questioning because one of the questions the jurors have to answer when determining whether the DP is a just sentence is “is the guilty party likely to reoffend?” We know TH is going to prison, so according to this he is statistically NOT likely to commit murder. Clever.

“Sentencing and Special Issues in a Capital Murder Case​

As mentioned earlier, to issue a sentence of the death penalty in a capital murder case there are special issues that must be reviewed by the jury. When a jury returns a guilty verdict, the judge then gives them instructions to answer two special issues which will be used to determine the penalties of the case.

• Special Issue Number 1 – asks the jury to decide whether there is a probability that the defendant would commit criminal acts of violence that would constitute a continuing threat to society.
• Special Issue Number 2 – asks the jury to decide if the defendant actually caused the death of the deceased or did not actually cause the death of the deceased but intended to kill the deceased or anticipated that another human life would be taken.

Answering yes, to either one or both of the special issues, must be done without reasonable doubt and with at least 10 of the jurors in agreement.

In the case that the jury answers yes to both Special Issues, jurors will then be asked to review Special Issue Number 3. This Special Issue asks the jury to take into consideration all the evidence, the defendant’s character, background and moral culpability in determining if there are significant mitigating circumstances to issue a sentence of life imprisonment without parole, rather than the death penalty.

For the court to issue capital punishment in a capital murder case, the jury must answer yes to both Special Issue Number 1 and Special Issue Number 2, while answering no to Special Issue Number 3.”

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[Megnut]

Why are 12 people missing work for THIS?

What does any of this have to do with TH?

 

[Megnut]

This witness is talking about the murder rate in prison being very low. IMO, they are taking this line of questioning because one of the questions the jurors have to answer when determining whether the DP is a just sentence is “is the guilty party likely to reoffend?” We know TH is going to prison, so according to this he is statistically NOT likely to commit murder again. Clever.

Kudos to you for finding a point!

However their point is absurd.

He's getting life without parole or the DP. He'll be kept in segregation. His life is at risk in prison by virtue of his crime.

JMO

 

[BUF]

I am tuning this guy out….has he mentioned TH name once?

 

[Leilei]

I am tuning this guy out….has he mentioned TH name once?

Not even once that I've heard.
But his droning on is starting to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher, so I could very well be wrong.
IMO.

 

[RaspberryMama]

Kudos to you for finding a point!

However their point is absurd.

Hrs getting life without parole or the DP. He'll be kept in segregation. His life is at risk in prison by virtue of his crime.

JMO

• Special Issue Number 1 – asks the jury to decide whether there is a probability that the defendant would commit criminal acts of violence that would constitute a continuing threat to society.

IMO, that is asking about whether he would be a danger “to society,” not necessarily to the society he’s actually going to be in. So, yes, he’s definitely a danger to society at large. But they are doing their best, which is really what we want them to do.

 

[twall]

I am tuning this guy out….has he mentioned TH name once?

Not that I've heard. ZZZZZ! I would rather watch my grass grow while I'm waiting for it to dry out so I can mow!

 

[Leilei]

Dr. Edens has been paid $6K to $7K for this case so far. $450 per hour.
ETA: That's about 15 1/2 hours.
IMO.

 

[RaspberryMama]

Dr. Edens has been paid $6K to $7K for this case so far. $450 per hour.
ETA: That's about 15 1/2 hours.
IMO.

If I were getting $450 an hour I’d try my best to be absolutely captivating, lol. I feel like we aren’t getting our $$’s worth with this guy.

 

[browneyes]

I may tune in for TH’s mom, if she testifies, but these “experts” talking to talk just make my blood pressure way too high. I get defense attorneys have a job to do, but I detest these paid hacks. Did they listen to that harrowing video? How can they defend him for $$$$.

 

[Megnut]

Dr. Edens has been paid $6K to $7K for this case so far. $450 per hour.
ETA: That's about 15 1/2 hours.
IMO.

Any nary a word about whether the statistics show whether a violent sexual offending pedophile would reoffend.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I may tune in for TH’s mom, if she testifies, but these “experts” talking to talk just make my blood pressure way too high. I get defense attorneys have a job to do, but I detest these paid hacks. Did they listen to that harrowing video? How can they defend him for $$$$.

Because they love their research this much.

 

[Megnut]

This crime is such a rarity that -- what? -- maybe the statistics don't apply?

Exactly. None of this says anything about TH.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I hope the State neutralizes this expert quickly. It shouldn't be hard.

 

[tlcya]

just now getting chance to join. Thanks to those updating

 

[shotgun09]

Listening to reporters in the courtroom now, while jury is on break, but now....Momma is physically coming in to testify on behalf of TH. Her face will be blurred on screen per her request. Waiting.....

 

[Leilei]

Court TV is showing TH's first police interviews.
Oh, the lies he tells...
I truly wish the absolute worst for this nasty person.
IMO.

 

[CHEL]

What does Tanner's mom's essay being published have to do with anything?