GUILTY TX - Billy Joe Harris for rapes of elderly women in 6 counties, 2011

[Texas Mist]

They would have a list of properties and employees right? I mean-they are probably run on Fed funds.

Yeah - that might give us an idea where there are vulnerable elderly folks living.....I just didn't want to ask too much because even off the forum, I didn't feel right about asking too many questions about Sally's friend/the vic.

There have been reports of attacks w/o rapes so it didn't sound too far out that Sally's friend could truly have been one of the unfortunate ones.

At any rate, my concern for Sally is great...she lives very near where the Luling attacks occurred, she's over 65yo, and lives in a rural area by herself (when she's at home)....thank goodness she doesn't have a set schedule for being alone out there!!

 

[Texas Mist]

Manhunt For The 'Twilight Rapist'

By Robert Arnold
POSTED: Tuesday, February 2, 2010
UPDATED: 8:14 am CST February 2, 2010

HOUSTON -- Since January of last year, one man has been linked to at least a dozen burglaries, sexual assaults and attempted sexual assaults in small Texas towns. Detectives have dubbed this predator the '"twilight rapist" because he only strikes elderly women during the dark, predawn hours.
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Central Texas has not been this man's sole hunting ground. The twilight rapist's trail began in January of last year in the town of Yoakum, about two hours west of Houston. A 91-year-old woman living in a retirement community was attacked twice. When the rapist came back for a third attempt, the woman had moved.
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One thing that has investigators puzzled is that no one has spotted this man before or after he attacks a victim. Detectives said the rapist does thorough surveillance on all his victims. In the case of the 77-year-old woman attacked in Marquez, the rapist not only knew her schedule, he also knew the exact time her son showed up every day to check on her.

"He told her, he said, 'No you still got about 30 minutes before he gets here. He doesn't show up till about 10 after 7,'" said her son. "He knew what time my brother was going to get there."

Police also said this predator cuts the phones lines before each attack and gathers cell phones before he leaves so his victims can't immediately call police. Detectives said he also takes something from each of his victims.

more here

http://www.click2houston.com/news/22408386/detail.html

 

[jjenny]

Manhunt For The 'Twilight Rapist'

By Robert Arnold
POSTED: Tuesday, February 2, 2010
UPDATED: 8:14 am CST February 2, 2010

HOUSTON -- Since January of last year, one man has been linked to at least a dozen burglaries, sexual assaults and attempted sexual assaults in small Texas towns. Detectives have dubbed this predator the '"twilight rapist" because he only strikes elderly women during the dark, predawn hours.
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Central Texas has not been this man's sole hunting ground. The twilight rapist's trail began in January of last year in the town of Yoakum, about two hours west of Houston. A 91-year-old woman living in a retirement community was attacked twice. When the rapist came back for a third attempt, the woman had moved.
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One thing that has investigators puzzled is that no one has spotted this man before or after he attacks a victim. Detectives said the rapist does thorough surveillance on all his victims. In the case of the 77-year-old woman attacked in Marquez, the rapist not only knew her schedule, he also knew the exact time her son showed up every day to check on her.

"He told her, he said, 'No you still got about 30 minutes before he gets here. He doesn't show up till about 10 after 7,'" said her son. "He knew what time my brother was going to get there."

Police also said this predator cuts the phones lines before each attack and gathers cell phones before he leaves so his victims can't immediately call police. Detectives said he also takes something from each of his victims.

more here

http://www.click2houston.com/news/22408386/detail.html

He does surveillance but no one saw him? Have they considered he's got some sort of training to do surveillance? It sounds like he is physically present next to these homes while he is doing surveillance, or how else would he know the woman's son would come in to check on her at a certain time?

 

[Kat]

That's an interesting idea jjenny. Off hand I think jobs in LE and /or Military training would give someone experience in surveillance.

Hi texasmist. I saw this on local news but it was just a very small segment and didn't give many details. I read the article you posted and in addition to jjenny's suggestions I think there is also the possibility that the offender has hunted in the past. Hunting is still fairly popular in Texas and he might have learned while young.

IMHO, the techniques in tracking and hunting an animal could be used for hunting human prey too.

Interesting that his crimes started down near Houston but now he's in CenTex.

I find it very curious that he can move from rural area to rural area without being seen, not so much as his ability to watch these women.

Makes me wonder if it's possible that he could be a day laborer. I am not thinking migrant worker though, I don't remember there being a lot of farming there. Rather someone that moves from town to town as a day laborer (working on ranch is a possibility? you know that kind of stuff).

I lived there for nine years (CenTex) and some of these rural areas would immediately notice someone that didn't have a reason to be in that town KWIM? Especially now that these crimes are happening.

Well that's my two cents so far! and probably not worth two cents either Just something to also consider.

Oh one more thing---About the DNA - I seem to remember that there was some type of legislation that wanted to increase the types of offenders from which TX can take DNA. I have to jump off here as of now, but I wonder which offenders DNA is for the TX Codis. It used to be a fairly narrow pool of offenders.

Okay I'm done

 

[IWannaKnow]

OK, it seems to me that the first lady who was attacked on Jan 23, 2009 in Yoakum lived in the retirement community. She was also the one who had $10,000 stolen and she is the one he came back for not once but twice. And I think she is the one with the burgler bar removed from her window in September? I noticed he took a long break after this one as well, which I would attribute to the cash, but if the rapes are the primary motivation then why wait months for the next move?

He has some connection to that retirement community in Yoakum, IMHO. Could that be how he is finding all his victims? I haven't been able to find any "retirement communities" in Yoakum proper, so does anyone know where this might have been? They must have separate living quarters for the residents or else someone would have heard the attack. Also, I noted that one article claimed this lady had a very predictable schedule, so I wonder what her job is/was?

This article states that another victim lived in a retirement community in Luling...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583256,00.html?mep

"Just across the interstate in Luling, where the last attack occurred in November, a neighbor said it's no coincidence the victim was the only woman in his retirement village with a job."

So is this more sloppy reporting, or are there in fact more than one victim living in retirement communities?

 

[Missizzy]

Texas Mist--I hate to type these words, but what do we know about LE in these particular towns? When we lived in Liberty Hill, we just had a constable (who took an hour to respond to anything). They now have a small police force with a chief. Their fire dept. is all volunteer. The reason I bring this up is that Liberty Hill shares some similarities with these other small towns.

I'm confused about no one in town reporting a "strange" man--especially a dark-skinned man in an area of "nice brick homes" where primarily white people live. Good ol' small town Texas. Texans have been on the alert about this guy for months now but no one has reported strangers lurking around. That tells me that he looks as if he should be there. He's not the local cop or firefighter, though, as the victim would recognize him. I thought for a while that he was a college student but I'm starting to think that he's got too much time on his hands. He could be living off the $12,000 he stole last January. If he goes out only at night, he could still be living with family, and they either think he has a job or is partying.

If he is military, could he have returned home last year with new surveillance skills? Fort Hood is sure not far from all the rapes. My gut is telling me, though, that he grew up in one of these towns as he knows their fabric and pattern so well. He knows how these women go about their lives. He isn't someone who has gotten up close and personal with them or they'd remember him--like a hairstylist, nurse, cashier, etc.

I keep going back to the hunting analogy too. It's NOT just the rapes, it's the plotting and planning and preying. He's unendingly tempted. Most people who hunt tend to go back to the same spots year after year. This guy is spreading out, which is surprising. He's getting bolder and moving to new territory where he has to study the lay of the land.

I think families need to be taking a close look at their twenty-something young men. Do they have odd collections of "things" showing up? Are they coming back home at odd hours? I don't think this man is worrying his family that he's into the drug scene as I see him as a straight up kind of guy. So why is he coming home at breakfast all dressed in black carrying a deer head?

I have this odd sense that he might still live with an elderly mother or grandmother or other female relative. He might care for her and she might have dementia. Well, if this fits a pattern in a family, the rest of the family needs to be taking a closer look at the situation.

And we didn't know that he went back a THIRD time to rape that one woman. My Lord. He's got to be from that area. Through deduction, that must be Yoakum. We've got to look in Yoakum.

I had a terrible thought late last night. I wonder if any women have been found dead in their beds this last year--due to "natural" causes? Happens all the time with ladies in their seventies to nineties. Why do an autopsy when it's clear that Ms. Elaine died peacefully in her sleep. Nothing was amiss. The kids didn't notice anything missing. Her nightie was even arranged the way it should be. Just passed quietly in the night.

 

[Filly]

There's something about cops-nice guys with guns and all about protecting a stranger they never met. Imagine that.

Ain't it the truth. As a DD of a 36 year veteran of the police force it makes me proud. Our entire lives we felt protected. Now that my dad's passed we truly feel vulnerable sometimes in the house. Then again he taught us well how to use a firearm.

Starry I wish Texas Mist had a bunch of sisters scattered around the country. She is very understanding and compassionate. You are right.

Praying they catch this creep and soon. Stay safe Starry.

 

[IWannaKnow]

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So, I'm running down this list trying to figure out a job which could take this guy over a large territory in Texas and get him in contact with widowed ladies of a certain age, both in their homes and in retirement communities. Meals on Wheels can't work, territory too large, construction seems too obvious ("why yes, I just had a wheel chair ramp constructed by this nice fellow..."), selling home care insurance??? Even if this guy just got back from Iraq or Afghanistan, he would have to have something which is giving him this information, IMHO.

 

[IWannaKnow]

Starry Night - I'm sorry you are having such anxiety related to this creep. I can't blame you one bit though. Have you considered a nice aluminum baseball bat beside your bed? Or maybe a couple, one by the door?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Easton-CYCLONE-Little-League-LK37-10-Baseball-Bat/13081126

If you don't want to shell out for a new one, is there a pawn shop near you or a play-it-again sports? Some charcoal lighter and a match would put some hurt on him as well...also, when I lived alone I found that if I could rig the door in some way that would alert me if someone was coming in, I felt better. Like a pyramid of coke cans in front of the door kind of thing. I will be thinking about you tonight and pray that you can get some sleep tonight.

 

[sweetheart29]

I keep going back to the hunting analogy too. It's NOT just the rapes, it's the plotting and planning and preying. He's unendingly tempted. Most people who hunt tend to go back to the same spots year after year. This guy is spreading out, which is surprising. He's getting bolder and moving to new territory where he has to study the lay of the land.

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I agree with but when a deer hunter changes spots that because he has seen a buck that really interests him. So this guy/thing(I am not sure what to call him) could be moving around looking for what interests him in his victim. My husband hunts he shot five does last deer season next season he moving cause he saw a huge buck. The place he shot the does he has not seen many bucks. So using the hunting analogy this thing could be moving cause he see something he likes better else where. Why somebody would steal a deer head makes no sense. I would think the only person a deer head would have any meaning to would be the person that shot it.

 

[sweetheart29]

Starry Night - I'm sorry you are having such anxiety related to this creep. I can't blame you one bit though. Have you considered a nice aluminum baseball bat beside your bed? Or maybe a couple, one by the door?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Easton-CYCLONE-Little-League-LK37-10-Baseball-Bat/13081126

If you don't want to shell out for a new one, is there a pawn shop near you or a play-it-again sports? Some charcoal lighter and a match would put some hurt on him as well...

Texas Mist-I called them last week and now I am afraid they will think I am a 'nut' cause they transferred me to 911 and the 911 operator had not even heard of the Twilight freak. But you know what? You are right-I can simply ask that they 'patrol'.....that is brilliant! Thanks! I will do that.
You know-I have to say-hindsight is 20.20-my poor mother-at aged 65 she asked for a gun for her birthday-we thought she was losing it and sadly enough, looking back-she was just like me-alone, older and scared and feeling like a potential victim. She was a tough cookie all her life-and she read about 5 books a week so she KNEW like we here all do-what is out there-lurking. I feel bad now. We did buy her the gun-it was a 57 Magnum or whatever the gun Dirty Harry carried-a 357 but not that big. We just gave it to her and never talked about it again. I think we also paid for shooting lessons? I can't remember.....And,as I said before-she kept robber money on hand. How sad. GRRRRRR. Now I am getting that anger I need.
Mist-they can think I am a nut all they want ha ha _ I WILL ask them to patrol ny hood. Thanks a million!

Or maybe somebody in the family still has the 357 she could use.

 

[DeepThinker]

Just tossing another thought on this guy into the ring...we're all thinking along the same lines of he's possibly in the service industry somehow...what if he's something like an insurance adjuster? Maybe he's not the actual adjuster, but he's possibly involved in the claims process somehow. That would give him info as to what type of houses the victims lived in, their marital status, financial status, if they had scheduled items on their policies (the clocks or large trophy collections), if they have jewelry - everything a perp would need. The adjuster would be out there taking pics of the damage, etc., so our boy could even see the type of house. I wonder if they all have the same HO insurance?

Like I said, it's a thought.

 

[Missizzy]

Sweetheart29--Thank you for the input on the hunting. I think it's a strong analogy. I'm not a hunter (veggies only, thank you) but I lived in Central Texas for 14 years so I've known and loved many hunters. It would drive them nuts to know that I live with two gorgeous bucks in the field behind my bedroom. I can see them as I type this. They're my buddies.

Anyway, I've been thinking. LE would be on any new guy in town. They know who's supposed to be sitting in their cars when and where. And the rapist is spreading out so he's not employed in one town as a meter reader or tax assessor.

We've got to figure out who can sit in a vehicle with impunity for long periods of time. I can only come up with food/milk/alcohol delivery truck drivers, census workers, and people in State or official looking vehicles doing surveying. Several times in the past I've been alarmed to see a man sitting in a car seemingly doing paperwork and occasionally looking up at my corner. I've asked my husband to check and it's always the same answer. They are surveying something--either a property or getting ready to do road work.

I don't think the rapist is necessarily doing this work, though. I think he might just have the vehicle. If it is a state vehicle, he might be actually employed and moving around the state. He'd be having to work his bunnies off to get his real work done while still casing these women's houses. If he has a surveyors' company car, he could avoid detection by having a transit level, blueprints, measuring tapes. That would even give him some freedom for walking up near people's homes.

The only other thing I'm coming up with is wireless internet installation. I wonder if any of these towns are installing that at this time? Or anything to do with phone line installation--either real or bogus. The answer is in the vehicle, I think. Somewhere, there's an ABC Surveyors Corp. car with a deer head in the trunk.

We've got to ponder this all day and put together a list of men who fit this profile.

 

[IWannaKnow]

Sweetheart29--Thank you for the input on the hunting. I think it's a strong analogy. I'm not a hunter (veggies only, thank you) but I lived in Central Texas for 14 years so I've known and loved many hunters. It would drive them nuts to know that I live with two gorgeous bucks in the field behind my bedroom. I can see them as I type this. They're my buddies.

Anyway, I've been thinking. LE would be on any new guy in town. They know who's supposed to be sitting in their cars when and where. And the rapist is spreading out so he's not employed in one town as a meter reader or tax assessor.

We've got to figure out who can sit in a vehicle with impunity for long periods of time. I can only come up with food/milk/alcohol delivery truck drivers, census workers, and people in State or official looking vehicles doing surveying. Several times in the past I've been alarmed to see a man sitting in a car seemingly doing paperwork and occasionally looking up at my corner. I've asked my husband to check and it's always the same answer. They are surveying something--either a property or getting ready to do road work.

I don't think the rapist is necessarily doing this work, though. I think he might just have the vehicle. If it is a state vehicle, he might be actually employed and moving around the state. He'd be having to work his bunnies off to get his real work done while still casing these women's houses. If he has a surveyors' company car, he could avoid detection by having a transit level, blueprints, measuring tapes. That would even give him some freedom for walking up near people's homes.

The only other thing I'm coming up with is wireless internet installation. I wonder if any of these towns are installing that at this time? Or anything to do with phone line installation--either real or bogus. The answer is in the vehicle, I think. Somewhere, there's an ABC Surveyors Corp. car with a deer head in the trunk.

We've got to ponder this all day and put together a list of men who fit this profile.

Holy cats, Missizzy. What about the guy doing Google street view stuff?

 

[Missizzy]

Is there any way we can check and see where that's going on (or has occured) at a given time? But wouldn't LE have gone over this list ad nauseum? This rapist is slick.

 

[sweetheart29]

Sweetheart29--Thank you for the input on the hunting. I think it's a strong analogy. I'm not a hunter (veggies only, thank you) but I lived in Central Texas for 14 years so I've known and loved many hunters. It would drive them nuts to know that I live with two gorgeous bucks in the field behind my bedroom. I can see them as I type this. They're my buddies.

Anyway, I've been thinking. LE would be on any new guy in town. They know who's supposed to be sitting in their cars when and where. And the rapist is spreading out so he's not employed in one town as a meter reader or tax assessor.

We've got to figure out who can sit in a vehicle with impunity for long periods of time. I can only come up with food/milk/alcohol delivery truck drivers, census workers, and people in State or official looking vehicles doing surveying. Several times in the past I've been alarmed to see a man sitting in a car seemingly doing paperwork and occasionally looking up at my corner. I've asked my husband to check and it's always the same answer. They are surveying something--either a property or getting ready to do road work.

I don't think the rapist is necessarily doing this work, though. I think he might just have the vehicle. If it is a state vehicle, he might be actually employed and moving around the state. He'd be having to work his bunnies off to get his real work done while still casing these women's houses. If he has a surveyors' company car, he could avoid detection by having a transit level, blueprints, measuring tapes. That would even give him some freedom for walking up near people's homes.

The only other thing I'm coming up with is wireless internet installation. I wonder if any of these towns are installing that at this time? Or anything to do with phone line installation--either real or bogus. The answer is in the vehicle, I think. Somewhere, there's an ABC Surveyors Corp. car with a deer head in the trunk.

We've got to ponder this all day and put together a list of men who fit this profile.

That makes sense somebody with the right vehicle would not draw much attention from any one he could be driving and old cop car, electric truck, city vehicle, cable van (could easily put a deer head in that), or telephone truck . I live in the country if I hear a car around my house I get up and look if it a white truck I assume its a meter reader so don't usually pay much attention to what the person driving looks likes. My mom brought an used police car it still had police down the side of in black letters. So if you saw a police car setting on your street would that concern up much. I would think I am ok a policemen watching my street to keep trouble out. Also if something like this happen I would not think a few days ago I saw a police officer park two house that the only person I saw that didn't belong in the neighborhood. I am not say that I think is a police officer doing this I saying The person could be acting like one.

 

[IWannaKnow]

I don't know, but I remember that guy sitting on my street, with a little black VW beetle and no identification what so ever on the car. Kept going up and down the street until I walked out to the car and he told me what he was doing...

 

[sweetheart29]

He also has been stealing money so he could go a period with out working. Or the long periods in between could be cause he out of money had to get a job so that gives him less time to watch his victims I don't think he been in all the victims house before the rapes either cause there was one woman that shot at him so if he had been in her house before he would have know she had guns. But then again maybe he don't mind being shot at. if I was in some one house with a deer head on the wall I going to assume that there also gun in that house.

 

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[Missizzy]

Sweetheart29--Remember that he's not only got to fool these women and the neighbors but he's got to get past an alerted LE system. He's raping women at 4-6 am. Those are the dead hours for LE. They're going to check any stranger sitting in a car just to stay awake or give them somebody to talk to for a minute. I know small town Texas. LE are friendly. If they see a surveyor or cable guy working off some plans or a notebook, sitting in a quiet neighborhood at 5 am, they're going to pull up and say hi--and to check him out.

I'm going to be really surprised (when this guy is caught), if we don't find out that LE did cross his path. Think about it, if you're LE driving around one night and stopping to say hi to some service kind of guy AND you learn on your next shift that Ms. Bessie got raped and robbed, you're going to remember the incident and have a good description of the guy. I would think LE use their skills when they order at McDonald's. Do they? Can Deputy Troy tell you what the kid looked like who just handed him his hamburger? Can Sheriff Jones tell you what the man looked like that he stopped and said hi to last week during the night?

Another thought. Are there newspaper services in these areas? Where I live, in Southern Oregon, we can get the SF Chronicle and the Portland Oregonian delivered (both cities are 300 miles away) by a special news service. They throw the papers at 4-5 am. They are completely separate from the local newspaper delivery people. Could there be an Austin American Statesman or Houston Chronicle or other big paper delivery service which might not be seen as odd in neighborhoods at this time of day?