GUILTY TX - Billy Joe Harris for rapes of elderly women in 6 counties, 2011

  • #481
Tic Toc Ranch--That's actually very interesting. Hopefully you'll see my posts about the "tick tock rape" comment when you read back through this thread. Let me know what you think.

Now if we could determine that a dark skinned young man either worked for or was raised by or was a family member of this clock collector, I'd be ringing up the Texas Rangers.

Missizzy and Txsvicki - thank you for the validation. I know why I was feeling insecure posting it as it felt like I was being directed from my intuition more than my brain and that is always scary to share!

Missizzy -- have some work on an urgent need to do, but I will look for that and follow up with you as soon as I can! I want to clear my plate so I can zone into this thread and give it my full attention. It was odd last night, I often (still feeling new) will look at "new posts" to find threads to read and pick what I am ready to add - and this one hit me hard as I am a huge advocate of the elderly. Children, women who have suffered at the hands of sociopath/psychopath, and the elderly are my main causes.
 
  • #482
A_News_Junkie, thanks for sharing your thoughts! There's really no such thing, IMO, as being "way off base" when it comes to trying to find possible answers in these types of situations. I do hope you'll keep participating in this discussion; the more food for thought, the better.

A clock collector doesn't sound off, at all. The 'Tic Toc Ranch' find is interesting.
 
  • #483
News Junkie--Like we'd yell at you?? Have you looked at some of our theories? If this wasn't so tragic, it would be comical. Deer heads and pendulum clocks. Jeesh.

I can't find anything of interest in the obit I posted. I'm seeing lots of relatives but no one I would consider "dark-skinned" and no one in Yoakum. I wonder if it's possible that one of the grandkids could have adopted or had a child of mixed race? Or maybe an employee or neighbor kid?

Bless this sweet little ol' lady. She looks just like the rest of our victims, in my mind. It is the right location, too.
 
  • #484
And-look at the geographic-Floresville is not so far away. I think the News Junkie has something.......wow oh wow.
 
  • #485
I never thought about auctions and sales and someone involved in that and traveling and getting info on sellers/buyers and staying in town for such..... etc.....Holy Cow!
 
  • #486
We probably sound like a bunch of old crazed ladies and gents trying to figure this out but it takes a village (of such lol). I think we have figured out there is a local connection of course-duh...but how does that play out with the multi-counties? This perp has a connection to knowledge of intimate details of the vics-their living situations especially. We have to ask:
HOW does he know they are alone?
HOW does he know their schedules?
HOW does he determine their age and infirmity?
HOW does he determine their wealth?
He has HELP either through his work or public records or through someone who has access to same.....
Clearly these women are targeted by criteria and they fit certain criteria. I know I am repeating all we have discussed but it bears repeating.........
CERTAIN CRITERIA DETERMINES THE VICTIM
HOW DOES ONE FIT THE CRITERIA
HOW WOULD ONE FIND SOMEONE WHO FITS SUCH CRITERIA?

I think we have a team operating here.......a man and a woman......I think the female works and finds the criteria...I don't know.....that sounds disgusting to me but it has been done before......
 
  • #487
And so-following that thought-we have been looking for the wrong person! We need to find a female! Or a male accomplice whi is registered as a home-health aid or lvn etc. Maybe the perp is taking info from the home or COMMUNITY worker and using it to commit these crimes. And the worker (male or female) is their lover/friend/relative and not saying a word. I mean-all of a sudden-no attacks. Cause maybe the worker told the lover/friend/relative-hey-did you se the news?? I worked for this lady!Q And after a while it was too much.....-you gotta stop-did u do this??? Etc....sorry-on a stream of that again.......
Wonder if they moved on outta state....
 
  • #488
Then again- I would think LE had explored all associated persons-granted it takes time. And they cannot investigate everyone associated with a licensed person and just follow them around to see who they are with-but if some licensed person all of a sudden moves or stops presenting for work-hmm.
 
  • #489
Home health aids, Meals on Wheels, some kind of community service volunteer. Senior citizens activity centers. There's got to be a common thread somewhere.
 
  • #490
He knows their whole damned schedule down to when the son visits! That indicates he has intimate knowledge that only a home-health worker or Community worker knows or as you said, Meals On Wheels. It is some traveling nurse......??? So many counties-wow-what a terrible team.
 
  • #491
We probably sound like a bunch of old crazed ladies and gents trying to figure this out but it takes a village (of such lol). I think we have figured out there is a local connection of course-duh...but how does that play out with the multi-counties? This perp has a connection to knowledge of intimate details of the vics-their living situations especially. We have to ask:
HOW does he know they are alone?

HOW does he know their schedules?
HOW does he determine their age and infirmity?
HOW does he determine their wealth?
He has HELP either through his work or public records or through someone who has access to same.....
Clearly these women are targeted by criteria and they fit certain criteria. I know I am repeating all we have discussed but it bears repeating.........
CERTAIN CRITERIA DETERMINES THE VICTIM
HOW DOES ONE FIT THE CRITERIA
HOW WOULD ONE FIND SOMEONE WHO FITS SUCH CRITERIA?

I think we have a team operating here.......a man and a woman......I think the female works and finds the criteria...I don't know.....that sounds disgusting to me but it has been done before......

HOW does he know they are alone? His job or volunteer position may allow him to visit their homes.

HOW does he know their schedules? He learns this from surveillance after he's settled on a victim.
HOW does he determine their age and infirmity? His position focuses on elderly so it's easy.
HOW does he determine their wealth? From the gossip grapevines in the communities. He may also look up appraisal district public info to see what all they own.

These are just my best hunches. Also, the clock may only be symbolic that the ladies' time has run out. It may also serve as a means to draw them out of their house to check where that clock noise was coming from....at which point he enters the home, and hides in wait.
 
  • #492
found some food for thought & discussion...the article was about rape/homicides of elderly women in California, but there's a lot of info on a rapist who targets elderly women.

“People find it difficult to imagine why a rapist would target an elderly victim, because society still equates sexual arousal and desire with rape,” Safarik said in a phone interview. “You’re dealing with issues of power and anger in these cases, and for a number of these offenders the victim is largely symbolic,” he added. Safarik speculated that the anger level, particularly with those who target elderly women, could be one explanation for the high murder rate of victims.

Safarik found that rapists who target and murder elderly women varied greatly by age and race, but were homogenous in many other characteristics and methods of operation.

The study found that these individuals are typically undereducated, unemployed and substance abusers--usually alcohol. They are socially incompetent, do not fit into their peer group, and sexually inadequate with only 48% of the offenders leaving semen at the crime scene.

The vast majority (92%) have some sort of criminal history, but mostly misdemeanor incidents. “In approximately 80% of the cases, you will not find them in your sex offender database,” said Safarik.

They are not criminally sophisticated criminals, and frequently leave evidence at the crime scene. Another commonality is their proximity to the victim. 56% of the assailants live within six blocks of their victim, and 30% of those on the very same street. “Focus the initial investigation on the neighborhood,” Safarik suggests.

“Contrary to what some might think, their primary goal is the sexual assault,” says Safarik. Although they will usually make off with cash or jewelry afterwards, burglary is not the primary motivation—it is an afterthought.

The victim’s race is a good predictor for the race of the rapist only if the elderly victim is a black or Hispanic woman. Black men are the likely assailants if the sexual homicide victim is an elderly black woman. Likewise, Hispanic men are the likely attacker if the elderly victim is an elderly Hispanic women. White women not only make up 84 % of the victims in the study, but are the targets of rapists of all races. However, white men are unlikely candidates if the elderly victim is black or Hispanic, as they focus almost exclusively on elderly white women.

“The best predictor for age of the perpetrator is the level of injury,” according to Safarik. The more violent the injuries the sexual homicide victim suffers, the higher the likelihood that the offender is younger than the mean offender age of 27 years.


more here

http://www.volcanopress.com/pages/news.cgi?newscatid=5&newsid=19
 
  • #493
Detectives: Suspect in rapes of elderly women identified

by KENS 5 report

Posted on February 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Updated today at 5:40 PM


HOUSTON—Detectives believe they know who is responsible for a series of rapes involving elderly women in small South and Central Texas towns.

The man, known as "The Twilight Rapist," usually strikes between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m.

Police said he’s raped or tried to rape at least 12 elderly women so far.

A friend of the victim said she had identified the suspect by photo.

A friend said the victim fears the rapist will strike again.

"And when he got in there, she said he was already naked. He didn’t have anything on when he got inside. He said, ‘Do you miss me?’ And she said he told her, ‘I’ll be back.’ And she said, ‘I know he will,’" Bonnie Foxell, the victim’s friend, said.

Gov. Rick Perry recently set up a special task force of state and federal law enforcement officers to locate the suspect.


http://www.khou.com/news/Detectives-Suspect-in-rapes-of-elderly-women-identified-84017852.html
 
  • #494
Guy could also be employed as a day laborer or ranch hand. Typically in small towns, unemployed Mexican workers hang around a convenience store in hopes of gaining short term employment. But many of those guys don't have vehicles. Most likely this guy is recently from Yoakum, Tx. Since first and last attacks were in the Yoakum location. I agree with the statement that he likely lived in the neighborhood of his first victim, if not just down the block from her. I would expect him to be someone recently arrived in the neighborhood, someone who'd recently moved in with a relative of his.

I think things have changed. I wouldn't be so sure his race necessarily matches that of his victims.
 
  • #495
Guy could also be employed as a day laborer or ranch hand. Typically in small towns, unemployed Mexican workers hang around a convenience store in hopes of gaining short term employment.

I think things have changed. I wouldn't be so sure his race necessarily matches that of his victims.

If you are referring to the article posted by Texas Mist, it specifically says a person who rapes elderly white women isn't necessarily white.
 
  • #496
Detectives: Suspect in rapes of elderly women identified

by KENS 5 report

Posted on February 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM

Updated today at 5:40 PM


HOUSTON—Detectives believe they know who is responsible for a series of rapes involving elderly women in small South and Central Texas towns.

The man, known as "The Twilight Rapist," usually strikes between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m.

Police said he’s raped or tried to rape at least 12 elderly women so far.

A friend of the victim said she had identified the suspect by photo.

A friend said the victim fears the rapist will strike again.

"And when he got in there, she said he was already naked. He didn’t have anything on when he got inside. He said, ‘Do you miss me?’ And she said he told her, ‘I’ll be back.’ And she said, ‘I know he will,’" Bonnie Foxell, the victim’s friend, said.

Gov. Rick Perry recently set up a special task force of state and federal law enforcement officers to locate the suspect.


http://www.khou.com/news/Detectives-Suspect-in-rapes-of-elderly-women-identified-84017852.html

It sounds like good news, but until they get DNA tests done, I wouldn't count on it. Remember they had a wrong suspect before.
 
  • #497
I've started contacting the Austin media....I don't know why Houston is reporting this before Austin...I'll let y'all know what I find out.

ETA: I really need some good news tonite, so I'm excited that LE may be closing in on the perp...I can be disappointed - yet again - another day. ;)
 
  • #498
Oh, I hope they got him. Fingers crossed!! We'll have to see.

Texas Mist, I think you posted that same link before or someone else did about the commonalities between rapists of elder women. It just doesn't sound like this rapist, does it? The rapist which is described sounds bumbling and like he'd stick out in a crowd. This guy sounds so put together. Remember the post by someone about an Organized Rapist? That sounded more like the Twilight Rapist.

I gotta go to sleep but I'm hoping and praying this is over. I worry so much about the strain on these women if they have to go through a nasty trial.

Isn't it going to be interesting to find out what all the deer heads and clocks are all about?
 
  • #499
Does it strike everyone as odd that the article linked above clearly names the friend of a victim who identified the man as a suspect and yet the man is still not in custody? Is that safe? She's not hard to find.
 
  • #500
Does it strike everyone as odd that the article linked above clearly names the friend of a victim who identified the man as a suspect and yet the man is still not in custody? Is that safe? She's not hard to find.

I don't know how it can be safe....maybe she has a big burly husband & 10 dogs to protect her.

I found a news video of her here....so yeah, he could find her. :eek:

http://www.kens5.com/home/Yoakum--84014502.html

Also, this vid doesn't mention anything about a photo of the suspect & I couldn't find it on the site either...maybe I just didn't hear all the video...weird that KHOU reported the photo & said they got the story from KENS5. :confused:
 

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