TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #4

[Vedder]

Honestly I don't know what's customary in a missing person's case, this is my 1st to follow, but I don't think it would've been a terrible idea to at least check the house out, especially since LL & KL admitted to LE they had not told the truth, not one of them, BOTH OF THEM. In my opinion that in itself would've been enough to sound an alarm that something just wasn't right. Just because LE doesn't think at that time there was any evidence of foul play, doesn't mean there wasn't.

I agree. My thoughts are, if LE didn't have anything other than a hunch or intuition, they most likely wouldn't be granted a search warrant. And, if the gf didn't invite them in to search, well then that's that. No search.

 

[QueenBea13]

I agree. My thoughts are, if LE didn't have anything other than a hunch or intuition, they most likely wouldn't be granted a search warrant. And, if the gf didn't invite them in to search, well then that's that. No search.

I'm sure they've kicked themselves in the rear more than once for not coming up with a creative reason to get inside that house. Maybe I watch too much crime TV, ok, yes I do, but the cops always seem to go to the missing person's residence to gather clues & or DNA. I know it's TV & things don't go that way in real life, but what if it did? This quite possibly could've been solved long ago. In my opinion that is.

 

[Balor51]

Welcome Rascal32, thank you for your input. Consider becoming an insider?
All of this is of course 'my own opinion, thoughts and ideas'.
I can not even imagine the pain LL goes through, nor those babies. It would be helpful if we could know some simple things that she does know. It is not bashing her, believe it or not, (we) are trying to help. She is the one closest to this whole thing, she knows her man and his family, she knows how he thinks and what he could possibly do in a situation, she would know what it would take to make Brandon call 911 in the first place, in such distress! Especially, if it even matters, they knew he had a warrant, based on her own statement they found out about when they went to register the truck.
LE would have helped a distressed man and not even worried about his warrant or other stuff. She said they were going to deal with it.
The few inconsistencies you mention, for me, could make a HUGE difference in where he might be. I would be more than willing, at my own time and expense, to come walk beside her searching!
I agree Brandon calling 911 was ignored. I agree we don't care that K hid the fact 'he was on the phone' at that very moment with Brandon that the deputy was at the truck. I agree we don't care if he was or was not using or on drugs (I don't think he was personally, but I've been wrong before). I pray every day for her, those babies and Brandon.

1. Was he bleeding when he left the house?Was it a minor or major injury?
2. First report was he left between 10:45-11 and then it was changed to 11:53 with Brandon calling about 35 minutes later he was out of gas, then he called 911 at 12:53. What time did he leave the house? an hour is more than a inconsistency. It could be a huge difference as to where he went, who he saw and what happened to him..imoo
3. Was the house checked that night or the next day?
4. How did she get the clothes he left in that night back? And I know it was first reported he GRAB his yellow shirt and camo shorts and left. She did not know what he went missing in until later, when she 'got' stuff out of the truck? Where did he change? Why did he change? This is more than an inconsistency, to me anyways.
5. Was the deputy ever told THAT NIGHT about Brandon calling 911? Did the dispatcher ever notify said deputy of a caller IN THE SAME AREA, mentioning he ran out of gas and he was in distress? Exactly which call was the deputy responding too? Was it to the trucker's call of a truck in the road way? or Brandon's 911 call? which came first? What about the lady who also reported(or had her mom call?)
6. Why didn't K or A themselvescall 911 stating Brandon called/texted that he was in distress? Yeah, it's to late now in hindsight.
7. Brandon knew K and A were out there looking for him, why did he not make it known where to find him? or did he?
8. Why did LE release the truck for towing some 7 hrs later and not follow up? Had nothing been said to LE at that time of Brandon's call to K or A about running and bleeding? LE knew as LL had called them for a status update at 5 am.
9. Why leave a phone charging outside when you know your husband is broke down? She didn't have to talk to Brandon, she could have talked to K, to know that he was safe and on his way.
10. Is that Brandon on the 911 call?
11. Why not offer her opinion on what she thinks he is saying on the 911 tape? It could help!
12. How long did K and A stay out there waiting?
13. Who was with Brandon that night? Was he found? Did K and A find this other person, take him home and return to looking for Brandon? It is very clear on the 911 tape that Brandon says, my opinion,(WE were talking to em, and we totally ran into em.)
14. Why pay for a search plane the next day? Why stay in a motel with a very ill child at home? Did the babies go with her? Did she have someone stay with the babies while she was in Bronte?
15. How many times did Brandon call 911? Besides K, A and L who else did he call that night?
16. Why take so much time, like 4 days, to get the info to LE as he is missing. It would have been fresh then of where, what, who the deputy observed and could have given a GOOD starting point as to where Brandon could be.
17. If 2 planes/helis went up, plus a search soon after, do you feel that all the ground was covered? Do you know/feel that he could have fallen into a crevice, cave, sinkhole and be hidden from those searchers?
18. Was the fuel gauge working properly on his truck?
19. Why doesn't K and A give their own version of times and events to further clarify? They also have their own observations and thoughts. We hear a convoluted ever changing story from one person.

I sincerely hope you can see here, these are questions that family(the 3 people who know the CORRECT information) could answer, it is not pointing a finger, it is not bashing. It is wanting to help a person with a missing loved one, regardless of .....

BBM

That is a question I have had also all along. From everything I searched and read it has never been answered. Which concerns me , in that if by morning and K hadn't found Brandon, why did no one go into either San Angelo or Bronte and fill out a missing persons report? Both places having one filed would have been great! So the delay does concern me, as I think it caused serious problems in searching for Brandon. JMO, MOO :moo:

 

[Spiritecho]

AND!
3 calls were missed to LL by Brandon, I wonder why he didn't leave a message? If you are mad at your 'other', you don't have to speak to them, but you can leave a message or text that they will see and then it will be understood this is an emergency. K had called her 3 mins before and they spoke.

 

[Balor51]

AND!
3 calls were missed to LL by Brandon, I wonder why he didn't leave a message? If you are mad at your 'other', you don't have to speak to them, but you can leave a message or text that they will see and then it will be understood this is an emergency. K had called her 3 mins before and they spoke.

As upset as Brandon sounded on the 911 call, I would imagine he would have left her some kind of message. He told A on the phone he was bleeding, it would make sense that he would have said something similar to his GF on voicemail. But, was he bleeding before or after? Was he bleeding when he left the house? So many puzzle pieces. I hope those sweet children have answers one day soon ! All JMO, MOO, IMOO Etc...

 

[QueenBea13]

AND!
3 calls were missed to LL by Brandon, I wonder why he didn't leave a message? If you are mad at your 'other', you don't have to speak to them, but you can leave a message or text that they will see and then it will be understood this is an emergency. K had called her 3 mins before and they spoke.

Well in an attempt to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe she got K's call as she was plugging her phone in out in the van, then (quoted from blog talk transcript) "told K that I was going to put the gas cans outside the porch, because I was, it was my son that was sick for two days. He had a double ear infection at the time."

And for me personally, if my hubby & I were to fight/argue, to the point one of us felt the need to leave & then afterwards I called my hubby & he didn't answer me....oh Mylanta! There would be hell to pay, I'd be upset & wonder just what he was doing that could be so much more important than answering a phone call from me, his wife! Somebody would be giving me some answer!!! I can only assume this could've been the exact same feelings being felt on one or both sides of the coin that night.

As aways these are just MY random thoughts & opinions


Just my random thoughts & opinions

 

[Bigmomma29]

Somethings I don't understand. First off when Brandon left the home, he already knew he was low on fuel. He leaves mad or upset, when you pull out of the drive one way 2 blocks is a stripes and the other way about 5 blocks is a stripes, that he would have to pass to get onto hwy 67. Why didn't he stop, cause supposedly he had money. There has been reports of him at wal mart, he had to go back in towards San Angelo on Hwy 67 about 2 miles. Was he meeting someone there or did he go in and purchase something, if so there should be video of that. It was told he was going to Ft. Worth why would he get off the correct Hwy 67 and go thru Bronte about 30 something miles out of the way. Plus how did K and A know exactly which road to take if the phone service is so bad out there and the phone cuts in and out so much and they thought he was going to Ft. Worth.

 

[nannymo]

:gaah: Lifetime movies. So many of them have been based off of true stories/cases. And of course a woman scorned is the oldest story in the book. " Hell hath no fury as a scorned woman "

It is very odd the truck was found in Bronte out of gas. He would have passed a Stripes gas station just down the road from the GF's house. How come he didn't stop for gas there? His GF thought he might have been headed to his parents in Fort Worth area, so wouldn't he have needed gas? And Bronte is in the other direction from Fort Worth right?

Going through Bronte to get to Ft. Worth is done all the time. I know it looks like it is out of the way, but you can connect to I-20 in Abilene faster. Hwy 277 is the faster way to Abilene also. (Only by about 10 minutes) The other route to Abilene you go through a bunch of little towns (with speed traps). If you are talking about taking 67 and coming up to Ft. Worth from the South, you have to travel through tons of little towns and drive on a 2 lane highway through a lot of deer country. Not a safe or timely drive by any means. So I don't find it strange he went that direction IF he was going to Ft. Worth. I personally don't think that was what he was doing. Brandon definitely did something prior to taking off for Bronte or Ft. Worth, whichever place you think he might have been going.

#1. What is the first thing you do if you are taking off at midnight for a destination 300+ miles away? You get clothes and gas your car up.
#2 He did not take enough clothing for an extended stay and not enough fuel to hardly get out of town......his plan was NOT to go to Ft. Worth I don't think.
#3 It only takes about 25 minutes to get to Bronte (driving the regular speed limit) from the North side of San Angelo....yet it took Brandon almost twice that amount of time....so to me that proves he went somewhere else
beforehand. I don't know about you, but when I am mad I drive a lot faster than the speed limit too.
#4 Most grown men don't run home to Daddy or Mama when they get in a fight with their GF...
#5 He was supposedly starting a new job! Again, driving to Ft. Worth from San Angelo is not like taking off for a short drive. It is a long way and takes a lot of gas and time. I just don't buy that part of the story.

Whatever happened, I still think BL "ran into someone" and that person/persons known or unknown did him harm. JMO

 

[Spiritecho]

Going through Bronte to get to Ft. Worth is done all the time. I know it looks like it is out of the way, but you can connect to I-20 in Abilene faster. Hwy 277 is the faster way to Abilene also. (Only by about 10 minutes) The other route to Abilene you go through a bunch of little towns (with speed traps). If you are talking about taking 67 and coming up to Ft. Worth from the South, you have to travel through tons of little towns and drive on a 2 lane highway through a lot of deer country. Not a safe or timely drive by any means. So I don't find it strange he went that direction IF he was going to Ft. Worth. I personally don't think that was what he was doing. Brandon definitely did something prior to taking off for Bronte or Ft. Worth, whichever place you think he might have been going.

#1. What is the first thing you do if you are taking off at midnight for a destination 300+ miles away? You get clothes and gas your car up.
#2 He did not take enough clothing for an extended stay and not enough fuel to hardly get out of town......his plan was NOT to go to Ft. Worth I don't think.
#3 It only takes about 25 minutes to get to Bronte (driving the regular speed limit) from the North side of San Angelo....yet it took Brandon almost twice that amount of time....so to me that proves he went somewhere else
beforehand. I don't know about you, but when I am mad I drive a lot faster than the speed limit too.
#4 Most grown men don't run home to Daddy or Mama when they get in a fight with their GF...
#5 He was supposedly starting a new job! Again, driving to Ft. Worth from San Angelo is not like taking off for a short drive. It is a long way and takes a lot of gas and time. I just don't buy that part of the story.

Whatever happened, I still think BL "ran into someone" and that person/persons known or unknown did him harm. JMO

Awesome food for thought Nannymo! it takes people who live, drive, work in the area to help us understand, I do get the 'out of the way' is sometimes better, we do that all the time traveling to see our girls in Texas. We don't take the direct route per say.

 

[Spiritecho]

So LE could, if they had a reason, search the house they lived in then..with their spray's and light's and such.....

 

[QueenBea13]

So LE could, if they had a reason, search the house they lived in then..with their spray's and light's and such.....

I don't know if they could now she no longer lives there & I'm pretty sure new residents have moved in. Wonder if they've noticed anything out of the ordinary.
I know his truck was in Coke Cty, but I still cannot wrap my head around why local LE was not contacted or the mp report filed there, I'm sure with it being a much larger town & county they would of had much more resources as well. And how in the world would she know right from the get go to call Coke Cty SO???
Example: My hubby works in the next town over, 18 miles to the east, & this circumstance would have happened to him, my 1st phone call to LE would be to our local PD or SO, not the next town/county over. Then if another LE agency needed to be contacted it would be at the local LE's discretion & choice.

 

[Balor51]

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/law-officials-seek-information-of-missing-man

Officials established Lawson had recently spent time with friends and acquaintances, the release states.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ndon-Lawson-26-San-Angelo-8-Aug-2013-1/page31
Snipped by me

Mandy1979: Oh wow I had that thought too! I will catch up later as we are leaving now but I want to say that I saw on FaceBook where his aunt went searching on her own and found a crushed cell phone and a tee shirt and said she was going to keep it and that it did not belong to BL. Maybe that should be turned in? What if it holds prints or evidence needed? Oh I told hubby to start car as I am going to see if I can find that comment from FaceBook.

https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/150740868468329
BBM
The crushed cell phone & torn t-shirt found by an Aunt, but she stated it wasn't Brandon's and would hang on to the item's and not turn over to LE.

 

[Balor51]

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/law-officials-seek-information-of-missing-man

Officials established Lawson had recently spent time with friends and acquaintances, the release states.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ndon-Lawson-26-San-Angelo-8-Aug-2013-1/page31
Snipped by me

Mandy1979: Oh wow I had that thought too! I will catch up later as we are leaving now but I want to say that I saw on FaceBook where his aunt went searching on her own and found a crushed cell phone and a tee shirt and said she was going to keep it and that it did not belong to BL. Maybe that should be turned in? What if it holds prints or evidence needed? Oh I told hubby to start car as I am going to see if I can find that comment from FaceBook.

https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/150740868468329
BBM
The crushed cell phone & torn t-shirt found by an Aunt, but she stated it wasn't Brandon's and would hang on to the item's and not turn over to LE.

Who were the friends and acquaintances ? And how was LE able to verify that? Also, where would those people have been at? San Angelo? Bronte? Fort Worth?

 

[Balor51]

Going through Bronte to get to Ft. Worth is done all the time. I know it looks like it is out of the way, but you can connect to I-20 in Abilene faster. Hwy 277 is the faster way to Abilene also. (Only by about 10 minutes) The other route to Abilene you go through a bunch of little towns (with speed traps). If you are talking about taking 67 and coming up to Ft. Worth from the South, you have to travel through tons of little towns and drive on a 2 lane highway through a lot of deer country. Not a safe or timely drive by any means. So I don't find it strange he went that direction IF he was going to Ft. Worth. I personally don't think that was what he was doing. Brandon definitely did something prior to taking off for Bronte or Ft. Worth, whichever place you think he might have been going.

#1. What is the first thing you do if you are taking off at midnight for a destination 300+ miles away? You get clothes and gas your car up.
#2 He did not take enough clothing for an extended stay and not enough fuel to hardly get out of town......his plan was NOT to go to Ft. Worth I don't think.
#3 It only takes about 25 minutes to get to Bronte (driving the regular speed limit) from the North side of San Angelo....yet it took Brandon almost twice that amount of time....so to me that proves he went somewhere else
beforehand. I don't know about you, but when I am mad I drive a lot faster than the speed limit too.
#4 Most grown men don't run home to Daddy or Mama when they get in a fight with their GF...
#5 He was supposedly starting a new job! Again, driving to Ft. Worth from San Angelo is not like taking off for a short drive. It is a long way and takes a lot of gas and time. I just don't buy that part of the story.

Whatever happened, I still think BL "ran into someone" and that person/persons known or unknown did him harm. JMO

This is why I ask, cause being from other upper northern states I am at a loss on towns and areas in Texas. Ty NannyMo

Yeah # 4 would be very odd for me. I see guys more likely to go hang with a good friend or something.

#5 Totally agree. Though at the time he went missing, I think it is somewhere in the early threads, that someone had posted that Renegade still had him listed as an employee. So that would lead me to believe he was at the very least , going to work on up until he started the new job. JMO

 

[Bigmomma29]

This is why I ask, cause being from other upper northern states I am at a loss on towns and areas in Texas. Ty NannyMo

Yeah # 4 would be very odd for me. I see guys more likely to go hang with a good friend or something.

#5 Totally agree. Though at the time he went missing, I think it is somewhere in the early threads, that someone had posted that Renegade still had him listed as an employee. So that would lead me to believe he was at the very least , going to work on up until he started the new job. JMO

Yes I read that too, he was still on the Renegade board as a employee. I just think the new job thing is a untruth in my opinion. I personally don't think he got out of San Angelo, before he ran into trouble that night. I guess I'm a different kind of traveler I take the shortest back roads, instead of going all the way north then all the way west then back south to Joshua or Crowley to his parents house. I guess driving around the country taught me that. I just can't figure out why K and L said that friends helped K look fir him that night and not one of them have said a word. But they may have and it got deleted who knows. So much has been erased.
I wonder why no up dates have been given.

 

[KJ's Mamu]

Probably a HUGE long shot but looking at the pics on NamUs case #12993 reminded me of Brandon. Estimated height is off and body found almost 13 hours away and it says remains could be three years old. Am I just imaging a resemblance?

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12993

 

[Spiritecho]

Probably a HUGE long shot but looking at the pics on NamUs case #12993 reminded me of Brandon. Estimated height is off and body found almost 13 hours away and it says remains could be three years old. Am I just imaging a resemblance?

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12993

My first instinct is no, that's not Brandon...is Brandon's dna loaded into NamUs?

 

[Spiritecho]

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/law-officials-seek-information-of-missing-man

Officials established Lawson had recently spent time with friends and acquaintances, the release states.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ndon-Lawson-26-San-Angelo-8-Aug-2013-1/page31
Snipped by me

Mandy1979: Oh wow I had that thought too! I will catch up later as we are leaving now but I want to say that I saw on FaceBook where his aunt went searching on her own and found a crushed cell phone and a tee shirt and said she was going to keep it and that it did not belong to BL. Maybe that should be turned in? What if it holds prints or evidence needed? Oh I told hubby to start car as I am going to see if I can find that comment from FaceBook.

https://www.facebook.com/helpfindbrandonlawson/posts/150740868468329
BBM
The crushed cell phone & torn t-shirt found by an Aunt, but she stated it wasn't Brandon's and would hang on to the item's and not turn over to LE.

IF I had found a crushed phone and torn t shirt out where my man went missing, I would have called or turned it in to LE, ok, so it may not be Brandon's, what about it belonging to the person(s) 'chasing' him, or was with him? It could hold potential clues and evidence...which may answer my question. Why turn it in if you already know the who, what, where, why, when if you think about it, makes total sense as to why there are no posters, no searches, why we are praying a hunter finds his remains. I sure hope that made sense.

 

[KJ's Mamu]

My first instinct is no, that's not Brandon...is Brandon's dna loaded into NamUs?

Yes, Brandon's NamUs case is #22702

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/22702/0/

 

[QueenBea13]

Yes, Brandon's NamUs case is #22702

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/22702/0/

I'm not familiar with NamUs, so forgive me if my questions seem dumb.
* Why would Brandon's tattoos not be listed in detail? Is that normal?
* This states he was last seen on 8/9/13 @ 00:00, who was last to see him on this date at that time?
* I know what this "says" he was last seen wearing, yellow shirt, camo shorts & 2013 Nike Air Max, but it timelines & other statements that were made state otherwise, early timelines state "He prepared to leave with the clothes he had on and grabbed a yellow shirt and camo shorts", so if he grabbed those articles of clothing, who was the person who saw him actually wearing them?
* Where did he change, if he in fact had the yellow shirt & camo shorts on?
* It's also been stated that a white bag/sack of the clothes Brandon was wearing the day/night he went missing, along with a rabbit foot was found in the truck, so we're these clothes found the yellow shirt & camo shorts? If not what articles of clothing was it? And why did it take almost an entire year to realize this mysterious white bag/sack from the truck to be gone thru?
* Why is it nobody will answer simple questions, that could help tremendously.
* Why does those closest to Brandon refuse to communicate with the public? They seem to beg for the public's help but then when anyone tries to ask questions in an attempt to help they are shut down?

So many questions that seem to only lead to more questions!


The thoughts & opinions stated above are that, MY random thoughts & opinions.