Found Deceased TX - Chrissy Powell, 39, San Antonio, Paralegal, didn’t arrive @work, BOLO, 5 July 2022

  • #321
I think this is a tough one for LE. Adults are allowed to disappear, and LE has no right to share Hippa related info to the public. If the family can prove they are an endangered person, or can make some benign statement about needing meds, it seems it is the best they can do. We can infer a lot from what LE says (or doesn't say), but I don't think the general public does.

Amateur opinion and speculation
Adults with children in their care do not have a right to disappear. Especially if they are the only parent in that child's life, as may be the case here with her older child.

Felony charge is possible.
Does the grandmother have any legal custody (as in court paperwork) regarding the oldest? If that child had to leave her care, who would be his legal guardian or would he be in state custody?

This mother needs to be found. If she did not have minor children, she would be free to leave, I suppose.

MOO

ETA: Corrected link to article & clarify that I am not accusing this mother of abandonment.
 
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  • #322
Adults with children in their care do not have a right to disappear. Especially if they are the only parent in that child's life, as may be the case here with her older child.

Felony charge is possible.
Does the grandmother have any legal custody (as in court paperwork) regarding the oldest? If that child had to leave her care, who would be his legal guardian or would he be in state custody?

This mother needs to be found. If she did not have minor children, she would be free to leave, I suppose.

MOO

ETA: Corrected link to article & clarify that I am not accusing this mother of abandonment.
Thx for this info. Somehow I missed that she had an older child living with her. It does change things. Agree.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #323
Thx for this info. Somehow I missed that she had an older child living with her. It does change things. Agree.

Amateur opinion and speculation
She has an older child, about 12, I believe, living with her, but she lives with her mother. Given that she did not have physical custody of her younger child, though I have seen nothing indicating it was handled through the court, I wonder if it is possible that her mother has custody of her older child. She, according to her mother, disappeared for several days, four or five years ago, and that child would have been 7 or 8 then. Who had custody of him then? Not judging , just wondering. JMO
 
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  • #324
I’m just pondering if I wanted to go off the grid for awhile, where would I hide my car?
Airport long term parking, 24 hour Walmart, someone’s enclosed garage, or?

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #325
She has an older child, about 12, I believe, living with her, but she lives with her mother. Given that she did not have physical custody of her younger child, though I have seen nothing indicating it was handled through the court, I wonder if it is possible that her mother has custody of her older child. She, according to her mother, disappeared for several days, four or five years ago, and that child would have been 7 or 8 then. Who had custody of him then? Not judging , just wondering. JMO
I had heard the younger child was currently living with his father, but I didn't hear anything about what that legal arrangement was. It could have been the custody order or just and agreement between them. I believe she had had some sort of text argument with that father, but it didn't seem to be anything serious. I had heard that the older boy's father was "not in the picture" but got no explanation. Had that father's rights been terminated?
If she had disappeared for a few days before, custody really wouldn't be an issue for such a short period of time. And it is very possible grandma has some sort of power of attorney to take care of medical or school stuff for the boy.
But what I find more interesting is that she did disappear once before, even if it was years ago. I can't help but think that for whatever reason, LE doesn't think she was abducted.
 
  • #326
I think this is a tough one for LE. Adults are allowed to disappear, and LE has no right to share Hippa related info to the public. If the family can prove they are an endangered person, or can make some benign statement about needing meds, it seems it is the best they can do. We can infer a lot from what LE says (or doesn't say), but I don't think the general public does.

Amateur opinion and speculation
I agree, and it's just awful. I'm following intensely a case local to me - see the Meghan Marohn case. She disappeared from the Berkshires in western MA in late March during a short "trip" here by herself. The thread has more info than I can summarize here, but in short, she disappeared into thin air, and despite input from many friends, colleagues, etc., that she was being stalked and harassed at her job in NY state, and that she came here on a paid leave of absence from her school to get away, her car was found a few miles from the inn after she asked directions to that street and she has not yet been found. They have not ruled it foul play because all they have as "evidence" was her abandoned car in a park's parking area. Supposedly not a single other clue except that her phone last pinged that day across the street in a residential area. Many believe LE thinks she was suicidal as there is a lot of - I hate to use the word evidence as there was no note, etc. - so whatever the term is, it is very possible that she was, but LE and volunteer groups searched and continue to search the dense woods within miles of her car's location, bodies of water, etc. Have the searches been thorough? Have they retraced their steps in case she was missed initially? Who knows. No one is saying much at all. All we know is that Meghan vanished on a day when the weather was cold, rainy, windy, snowy, not a good day for a hike, and despite even bringing out search dogs and large amounts of LE for days, they haven't found a thing. We don't even know if they subpoena'd phone records because as you said, adults are allowed to disappear. So at what point ARE they allowed to search for someone by looking at phone and digital records? How many times do they need to hear, "This person would not disappear without at least telling someone"? It's very worrisome in general for future missing persons cases.
 
  • #327
I had heard the younger child was currently living with his father, but I didn't hear anything about what that legal arrangement was. It could have been the custody order or just and agreement between them. I believe she had had some sort of text argument with that father, but it didn't seem to be anything serious. I had heard that the older boy's father was "not in the picture" but got no explanation. Had that father's rights been terminated?
If she had disappeared for a few days before, custody really wouldn't be an issue for such a short period of time. And it is very possible grandma has some sort of power of attorney to take care of medical or school stuff for the boy.
But what I find more interesting is that she did disappear once before, even if it was years ago. I can't help but think that for whatever reason, LE doesn't think she was abducted.
BBM...I realize that custody may not be an issue for a disappearance of a few days, but my point was that her disappearance then, apparently unannounced and leaving her child behind, may be indicative of issues that may point to why she no longer has custody of her smallest child, and why her mother may currently be the primary caregiver to the older child.

I am convinced that SAPD do not believe a crime was committed, (they have even said they have seen no evidence that a crime had been committed), and almost convinced that they think she left of her own volition. JMO
 
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  • #328
BBM...I realize that custody may not be an issue for a disappearance of a few days, but my point was that her disappearance then, apparently unannounced and leaving her child behind, may be indicative of issues that may point to why she no longer has custody of her smallest child, and why her mother may currently be the primary caregiver to the older child. JMO

ETA...I am convinced that SAPD do not believe a crime was committed, (they have even said they have seen no evidence that a crime had been committed), and almost convinced that they think she left of her own volition. JMO
True, but I wonder how deeply they looked into potential crimes. Did she stop for gas or coffee en route to work? What if someone carjacked her and she was still in the car? Look at the Naomi Irion case where she was pushed over into her passenger seat as she attempted to get out of her car early that morning to get into her work shuttle. Thankfully that was all captured on the Walmart video, but something like that could have happened here. Maybe the statistics are low, but it does seem to happen, sadly.
 
  • #329
True, but I wonder how deeply they looked into potential crimes. Did she stop for gas or coffee en route to work? What if someone carjacked her and she was still in the car? Look at the Naomi Irion case where she was pushed over into her passenger seat as she attempted to get out of her car early that morning to get into her work shuttle. Thankfully that was all captured on the Walmart video, but something like that could have happened here. Maybe the statistics are low, but it does seem to happen, sadly.
I hear you, and agree, it does happen, but Naomi Irion was abducted from a closed store's parking lot at 5:30AM, on a Saturday morning, in a small town. Chrissy went out the door, leaving her home at 10:34am, on a weekday, in the large city of San Antonio. I believe if she had been carjacked or had run off the road while digging through her purse, looking for her phone, or if she had run out of gas, or encountered almost any other problematic scenario, I feel almost certain that someone would have seen something. I think if she is not alive and voluntarily off the grid somewhere, or in a psychiatric facility, or the like, then she probabaly has driven somewhere outside of San Antonio, and has done self-harm. I do hope that SAPD are truly looking for her, and still have hope she will be found alive and safe. JMO
 
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  • #330
She has an older child, about 12, I believe, living with her, but she lives with her mother. Given that she did not have physical custody of her younger child, though I have seen nothing indicating it was handled through the court, I wonder if it is possible that her mother has custody of her older child. She, according to her mother, disappeared for several days, four or five years ago, and that child would have been 7 or 8 then. Who had custody of him then? Not judging , just wondering. JMO
I had heard the younger child was currently living with his father, but I didn't hear anything about what that legal arrangement was. It could have been the custody order or just and agreement between them. I believe she had had some sort of text argument with that father, but it didn't seem to be anything serious. I had heard that the older boy's father was "not in the picture" but got no explanation. Had that father's rights been terminated?
If she had disappeared for a few days before, custody really wouldn't be an issue for such a short period of time. And it is very possible grandma has some sort of power of attorney to take care of medical or school stuff for the boy.
But what I find more interesting is that she did disappear once before, even if it was years ago. I can't help but think that for whatever reason, LE doesn't think she was abducted.
BBM...I realize that custody may not be an issue for a disappearance of a few days, but my point was that her disappearance then, apparently unannounced and leaving her child behind, may be indicative of issues that may point to why she no longer has custody of her smallest child, and why her mother may currently be the primary caregiver to the older child.

I am convinced that SAPD do not believe a crime was committed, (they have even said they have seen no evidence that a crime had been committed), and almost convinced that they think she left of her own volition. JMO
It totally agree. It would be interesting to know just exactly what her custody/visitation situation is. But unless family volunteers that information, we probably aren't going to learn it.
 
  • #331
I hear you, and agree, it does happen, but Naomi Irion was abducted from a closed store's parking lot at 5:30AM, on a Saturday morning, in a small town. Chrissy went out the door, leaving her home at 10:34am, on a weekday, in the large city of San Antonio. I believe if she had been carjacked or had run off the road while digging through her purse, looking for her phone, or if she had run out of gas, or encountered almost any other problematic scenario, I feel almost certain that someone would have seen something. I think if she is not alive and voluntarily off the grid somewhere, or in a psychiatric facility, or the like, then she probabaly has driven somewhere outside of San Antonio, and has done self-harm. I do hope that SAPD are truly looking for her, and still have hope she will be found alive and safe. JMO
I agree with you... I just hope that they have indeed looked at cameras from such places, but manpower may be so limited they haven't yet.
 
  • #332
I agree with you... I just hope that they have indeed looked at cameras from such places, but manpower may be so limited they haven't yet.
I hope so too.
 
  • #333
She might have disappeared herself... might have a complicated history, issues that might explain her living and custody arrangements.

But any of that, all of that, or none of it might mean she was vulnerable to dv, self-harm, abandonment, etc.

Or.

Or vulnerable to the likes of an Ariel Castro. No one was searching hard for his victims, tragically, because their lives were such that they could've been voluntarily missing.

If Chrissy is somewhere in need of serious rescue, I hope no one gives up looking for her, especially LE.

Unlikely abduction? Yes. But so were Castro's. Just plucked from the street. Vanished without trace.

We can't give up.

JMO
 
  • #334
It’s within the realm of possibility that she took off. That despite her head reasoning that she had two sons and new job responsibilities and all else, she had to go. If that is what happened and the weight of that feeling got crushing - had to go, had to go - then there but for the grace of merciful beings that i ever found myself in that position. I’m sure I’d feel an urge to go too. Terribly worried and hopeful she re-emerges. She has been through a lot and maybe she is not perfect. As soon as I’m perfect I will let all of WS know! :D
 
  • #335
I live in San Antonio. I just moved from the area that Chrissy works. A little girl named Lena went missing not far from that area back in December. They never found Lena, and they still have no leads. Someone from the area already described how the roads and terrain is setup. She would pretty much be on the highway most of the time, other than her entering and exiting the highway. I have tossed this over and over in my head. The main two things that stand out to me are that she left her phone AND smart watch at home and that she has been going through some things with her ex over her 3 year old son. The phone thing is a big deal to me because someone who works at a law firm is going to be using their phone a lot. It wouldn't be just something she'd forget. Sure it happens. But what are the chances of it happening on the day you go missing? There is a door ring camera that shows she did leave the house. I did not see her get her vehicle, so I'm not sure how much video they actually got from that, but I am interested in knowing for sure if the car parked on the road is a neighbor's car or an unknown vehicle. If the Door Ring captured her only walking to her car, the person in that car could have jumped in the car with her, put something over her mouth and drove the car away. There might be a second driver in the other car who then drove that car away or thee could have been someone waiting in the car already. That car needs to be cleared though. I do not think she left her driveway/street alone because nothing else makes sense. Doorbell cameras disappear after a few seconds. It looks like that might have been the case this time.

**Edit: About the phone. I think it's possible it's someone she knows and that they were able to get the phone back in the house without setting the Door ring camera off. I don't know much about these cameras though. Can someone fill me in. If you have access to Door Ring can you pause it or edit it or just bypass it?**
 
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  • #336
I live in San Antonio. I just moved from the area that Chrissy works. A little girl named Lena went missing not far from that area back in December. They never found Lena, and they still have no leads. Someone from the area already described how the roads and terrain is setup. She would pretty much be on the highway most of the time, other than her entering and exiting the highway. I have tossed this over and over in my head. The main two things that stand out to me are that she left her phone AND smart watch at home and that she has been going through some things with her ex over her 3 year old son. The phone thing is a big deal to me because someone who works at a law firm is going to be using their phone a lot. It wouldn't be just something she'd forget. Sure it happens. But what are the chances of it happening on the day you go missing? There is a door ring camera that shows she did leave the house. I did not see her get her vehicle, so I'm not sure how much video they actually got from that, but I am interested in knowing for sure if the car parked on the road is a neighbor's car or an unknown vehicle. If the Door Ring captured her only walking to her car, the person in that car could have jumped in the car with her, put something over her mouth and drove the car away. There might be a second driver in the other car who then drove that car away or thee could have been someone waiting in the car already. That car needs to be cleared though. I do not think she left her driveway/street alone because nothing else makes sense. Doorbell cameras disappear after a few seconds. It looks like that might have been the case this time.

**Edit: About the phone. I think it's possible it's someone she knows and that they were able to get the phone back in the house without setting the Door ring camera off. I don't know much about these cameras though. Can someone fill me in. If you have access to Door Ring can you pause it or edit it or just bypass it?**
We have a thread here for Lina

stupid kindle won't let me copy the link sorry!
 
  • #337
what a are the odds she’s been trafficked?

they could have taken her and the car over the border somehow.

BUT AGAIN why is LEO not talking and video surveillance on where she went.
 
  • #338
what a are the odds she’s been trafficked?

they could have taken her and the car over the border somehow.

BUT AGAIN why is LEO not talking and video surveillance on where she went.
I would think the odds of that are very low.
A successful, almost middle-aged woman does not fit the profile of the average person who is trafficked.
 
  • #339
I find it odd that it’s so very quiet.

Friends have not spoken out or appear to be searching. Does she have girlfriends?

No one advocating for the family to run a FB Missing page, organize posters etc.?

Are there drug, alcohol issues?

I know people oversleep all the time but I’m really wondering why she overslept on this particular day. Hangover? Out late on 4th of July?

Is she dating and if so…who? Is she online dating or something a bit more long term?

I don’t think an accident. I’m leaning towards self harm TBH.

Hmmmmm
 
  • #340
I find it odd that it’s so very quiet.

Friends have not spoken out or appear to be searching. Does she have girlfriends?

No one advocating for the family to run a FB Missing page, organize posters etc.?

Are there drug, alcohol issues?

I know people oversleep all the time but I’m really wondering why she overslept on this particular day. Hangover? Out late on 4th of July?

Is she dating and if so…who? Is she online dating or something a bit more long term?

I don’t think an accident. I’m leaning towards self harm TBH.

Hmmmmm
I think some of the quiet stems from an investigative stall. Without any evidence of foul play, how could law enforcement secure a warrant? To access her phone, to access or her people's phones, to gather additional CCTV, or even to allocate officers, resources? They would need a strong enough indication of a specific manner of foul play, I would think, before any real investigation could occur. Based on a tip, they'd have a direction to follow. So far, they've likely talked to people closest to her and if they answered basic questions, then they cooperated. Nothing for LE to pursue.

Her history lends to a voluntary disappearance.... which just reinforces no foul play. (The victims of Ariel Castro were thought to have disappeared voluntarily too.) LE can't violate her privacy to any extent they want nor invest in a big investigation of other people who could've or might've have had reason or occasion to harm her.

I can only imagine the grief and frustration her mother must feel. LE likely can't do much more. If foul play occurred, LE needs the tip.

JMO
 

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