Found Deceased TX - Chrissy Powell, 39, San Antonio, Paralegal, didn’t arrive @work, BOLO, 5 July 2022

  • #621
I can see room for an accident, also, even without drugs or alcohol being involved. It was viciously hot, and heat can kill you quite quickly. If she stopped at one of the stores to pick up something (hypothetical) or even get a bottle of water or something, and realized she had forgotten stuff at the house, she could conceivably sat down to have a good cry. It's so hot that she might have passed out or become confused before she even knew what was happening.
 
  • #622
So I just saw the article on Daily Mail that Chrissy drove to the strip mall from her house that morning. So, she was in the parking lot for 3 weeks. Is it possible she was stopping there (on the way to work) to grab something, maybe coffee, food, or whatever? Or, no? Could she maybe have had a health event (not killed herself)? It says no one got in or out of the Rogue after she arrived. ?! Wouldn’t someone have driven some parking lots in San Antinio looking for her Rogue? Geez. Clearly cars left too long in the lot are not towed, per policy. We all make mistakes, but … this is not good.
 
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  • #623
So I just saw the article on Daily Mail that Chrissy drove to the strip mall from her house that morning. So, she was in the parking lot for 3 weeks. Is it possible she was stopping there (on the way to work) to grab something, maybe coffee, food, or whatever? Or, no? Could she maybe have had a health event (not killed herself)? It says no one got in or out of the Rogue after she arrived. ?! Wouldn’t someone have driven some parking lots of in San Antinio looking for her Rogue? Geez. Clearly cars left too long in the lot are not towed, per policy. We all make mistakes, but … this is not good.

San Antonio might have a million parking spaces. That place is freakin' HUGE. Even a thorough search could easily overlook a vehicle.
 
  • #624
San Antonio might have a million parking spaces. That place is freakin' HUGE. Even a thorough search could easily overlook a vehicle.
Fair point. But if the shopping plaza had towed her car, like they said was the policy for cars left over X number of hours or days, a lot of pain sure could have been shortened. But you’re right. Big big city. :( It also says her mom drive around, ugh.
 
  • #625
So I just saw the article on Daily Mail that Chrissy drove to the strip mall from her house that morning. So, she was in the parking lot for 3 weeks. Is it possible she was stopping there (on the way to work) to grab something, maybe coffee, food, or whatever? Or, no? Could she maybe have had a health event (not killed herself)? It says no one got in or out of the Rogue after she arrived. ?! Wouldn’t someone have driven some parking lots of in San Antinio looking for her Rogue? Geez. Clearly cars left too long in the lot are not towed, per policy. We all make mistakes, but … this is not good.
Interesting. Then when did she move to the front passenger seat? That article states 2 things that concern me -

Apparently they must now have footage of her pulling into that parking lot 30 min after she left home. It would not take her 30 min to get there. Where did she go previously?

How can they state no one got in or out of the car after she arrived - including her? How did she get into the passenger seat, and why? Or is the phrasing in some articles "slumped in the front passenger seat" to mean "still seated in the driver's seat, but her upper body was leaned over into the passenger side"? I read it as seated in the passenger seated, slumped over, not lying back.

Although we haven't seen the exact location the car was found, the rough placement between the steak house and Chipotle is not where she would have parked to get something to eat or drink quickly on the way to work (thinking Chipotle wouldn't even be open if she wanted some takeout).
 
  • #626
For those who may be suicidal:
Is suicide something people spend a lot of time thinking about? I've been down and out but there's always the promise of tomorrow; the hope for a beautiful day. Faith, promise, hope, and love are gifts we give ourselves.
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
jmo
 
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  • #627
So I just saw the article on Daily Mail that Chrissy drove to the strip mall from her house that morning. So, she was in the parking lot for 3 weeks. Is it possible she was stopping there (on the way to work) to grab something, maybe coffee, food, or whatever? Or, no? Could she maybe have had a health event (not killed herself)? It says no one got in or out of the Rogue after she arrived. ?! Wouldn’t someone have driven some parking lots of in San Antinio looking for her Rogue? Geez. Clearly cars left too long in the lot are not towed, per policy. We all make mistakes, but … this is not good.
First, this is the DM, which can be sketchy with facts.

Second, until we get toxicology, we only have speculation about cause & manner of death plus as with other cases, that might be withheld from the public. Especially if family wants it withheld.

If the DM is correct then it is a bit odd her car sat there three weeks undetected but we don't know the security set up (where does it say towing is the policy there?). Right now it appears to be very lax. I wonder if a random visitor noticed the smell & alerted security rather than it being found by security, as reported.

So many questions. So few answers. Generally cases here at WS leave us hanging in some respect. I don't like that either. Reporting stops. Often no obits are published. All too often the silence is deafening after a body is found. One in particular I am following appears to be a murder (Anton Sovetov) but only silence since his body was found.

LE & ME do what the law requires/allows and no more generally. Even when cause & manner of death are public records, they often get withheld unless a reporter makes a bother about it.

If there was something illegal or nefarious involved in her disappearance or death, the media may continue following. Otherwise, I expect all avenues of public information to close ranks pretty soon.

As a consequence & despite our wishing it otherwise, we are left with many legitimate unanswered questions.

Let's take comfort in knowing her family can lay her to rest. Too often, that does not happen either.

MOO
 
  • #628
I know some people are wondering why she didn’t feel more “hopeful” after getting her new job, but just to put it simply…..depression doesn’t work that way. 3 years ago I woke up late for work at a new job. It was a job I had been at for under two weeks and I was really enjoying it, but was suffering extreme depression.

When I woke up late, I felt like I was already “failing” to be a good employee. I was also struggling with substance abuse, so had a drink before leaving for work to ease my anxiety about being late. I made it all the way to the parking lot of work before I realized that I just couldn’t do it. I gave up. It was too much to face. It was just one small thing, but in the depths of my depression, it felt insurmountable. I drove away to a strip mall parking lot where my car wouldn’t be suspicious, called an Uber to take me back home (I was scared to continue to drive after drinking), shut my phone off, went back home and nearly drank myself to death. My employer did call LE, who did a wellness check and got me medical attention, but had that not been done I may have likely died (either from alcohol or self inflicted) and there would’ve been the same questions as here — why did she say she was on her way to work, how did her car end up over there, why was she sad when she had a good new job, etc. Unfortunately sometimes the answers won’t make sense to anyone except the person going through them in that moment.

So sad for Chrissy and her family.

(This is all MOO)
Thank you for sharing. So glad that you not only survived but thrived.
 
  • #629
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
jmo
Thank you for sharing. Powerful words.
 
  • #630
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
Great perspective. Saving this!

Everyone is always looking for the logic in suicide. Sufferers of intractable depression know how exhausting it is (even with periods of relief).

Exhaustion. A marathon that never ends.

Suicide ends that pain but ends all possibility of future joy. Mentally & emotionally exhausted people may even be on meds, in therapy, etc., but if their bandwidth gets too thin for even a moment it may be TOO MUCH from their perspective.

It's not a selfish act. It's thinking you're at the very end of your rope & so you let go.

Having a fatal heart attack at the end of a marathon is tragic but not generally wrapped in condemnation, fear & judgment. Let us have compassion for Chrissy. I am certain she tried to go on. And I honor that fighting spirit even if it wasn't enough.
 
  • #631
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
jmo
I‘ve had suicidal ideation for most of my life. I still do. I can’t help it. There is a suicide note somewhere in my local police station’s office. They told my family if I ever wanted it back, I would have to go in and sign for it. That was back in 2013. I barely survived and spent weeks in ICU on a respirator. I believe in miracles. I think about that note of sadness and blessed relief sometimes as I imagine it in an old Manila folder in a dusty cardboard box still sitting in a corner office…

This guy took his own life two months after dropping this song to inspire others. No one ever knows what another goes through…
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  • #632
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
jmo

Thank you for sharing your poignant story. May it help others who read your wise words on experiencing depression and how to shake it off. Be blessed, steeltowngirl. And, know that you are a blessing.

I lost a dear life-long friend when the Terminator found her loaded gun last month. She'd handled the severe depressive states of mind blowing sadness by battling them one day at a time. Her happiness could soar just as high, for days. She had become a first time GrandMother in Oct. She raised four chickens, as she called her little flock of children, including two sisters adopted from an addict family member while they were preteens. The Empty Nest Syndrome was not good for my friend's manic bouts of highs and lows. I wish she could have said: No, it won't be today. Then, made herself a cup of tea.
 
  • #633
I‘ve had suicidal ideation for most of my life. I still do. I can’t help it. There is a suicide note somewhere in my local police station’s office. They told my family if I ever wanted it back, I would have to go in and sign for it. That was back in 2013. I barely survived and spent weeks in ICU on a respirator. I believe in miracles. I think about that note of sadness and blessed relief sometimes as I imagine it in an old Manila folder in a dusty cardboard box still sitting in a corner office…

This guy took his own life two months after dropping this song to inspire others. No one ever knows what another goes through…
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Many, many hugs. You continue to inspire us.
 
  • #634
So she was wearing her apple watch and did suffer from anxiety and depression.

"The grandmother told how she initially had trouble getting police to take her daughter's disappearance seriously, with cops only starting their search after she emphasized her diagnoses of anxiety and depression.

Despite Powell's mental health battle, Mobley says she doesn't believe her daughter set out to die – telling of her happiness in her new job and revealing that she was wearing her Apple smartwatch when she was found."


I see also in the article that the security guards are on different locations, they don't just work one specific area. So that makes some sense as to why her car wasn't noticed for a couple of weeks. But that also brings into question exactly how secure these parking lots are. Of course the Security Company has a sign disclaimer, so I'm assuming they are protected from any liability.
 
  • #635
17:20 EDT, 29 July 2022

"The mom-of-two was last seen at 10.34am on July 5 and was captured in haunting doorbell footage as she headed to her paralegal job.

DailyMail.com can reveal her 2020 Nissan Rogue was caught on camera 30 minutes later, entering the lot at the upscale Huebner Oaks Mall in San Antonio, Texas, just after 11am."

"Security video, obtained from a nearby jewelry store by the cops and described to DailyMail.com by Powell's mother Claudia Mobley, 70, showed that no one got in or out of the vehicle after it arrived on July 5 and that Powell was alone in the car."

"In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Mobley said she believes her daughter, who suffered from anxiety, must have felt unwell and was overcome by the heat. She does not believe her daughter committed suicide or intended to die and said she was furious that security guards took so long to check the car."

"It was only the officer's second day on the job when he discovered Powell's body. His first day, he had just taken note of her parked SUV."

(lots more about the security company and their policies)
 
  • #636
Interesting. Then when did she move to the front passenger seat? That article states 2 things that concern me -

Apparently they must now have footage of her pulling into that parking lot 30 min after she left home. It would not take her 30 min to get there. Where did she go previously?

How can they state no one got in or out of the car after she arrived - including her? How did she get into the passenger seat, and why? Or is the phrasing in some articles "slumped in the front passenger seat" to mean "still seated in the driver's seat, but her upper body was leaned over into the passenger side"? I read it as seated in the passenger seated, slumped over, not lying back.

Although we haven't seen the exact location the car was found, the rough placement between the steak house and Chipotle is not where she would have parked to get something to eat or drink quickly on the way to work (thinking Chipotle wouldn't even be open if she wanted some takeout).

I think some Chipotle open at 10 or 10:30, but I am not positive. I believe the office called her after 10a, too. So, it’s possible she was getting an early lunch.
It probably isn’t the most likely scenario though.

I am not short and average size and I could climb in my small car passenger seat from the driver seat, without exiting.

*My opinions
 
  • #637
Since you asked.. IMO - As to spending time thinking about suicide - to a point yes, but not because they want to die. Then why do they do it? Because they want to stop the pain of living. It can take more courage to live than to stop the pain. But ending a life is a permanent solution.

I have battled severe major depression. I have come to think of it like this line from the movie The Terminator.
Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

I think of depression as like my own personal Terminator. I have learned that I can’t think my way out of it. It’s not me thinking anyhow, it’s the depression. It wants me dead. So when I have fallen deep and dark, I just decide it won’t be today. Just not today. The Terminator isn’t going to kill me today. I will live to battle him at least one more day. Do ANYTHING else - if I have to climb in bed, or hide in my house, or if all I can manage today is to make a cup of tea, that’s ok. I won’t let it happen. At least NOT today. I will be messy, but alive. Procrastination becomes my friend. That is the thing about suicide - it’s not one of those things you have to do now or you lose your chance. I mean, you can always do it tomorrow. Then when tomorrow comes, you deal with that and remember that you managed not to do it the day before. Just keep taking baby steps.

ETA: Peace and love to all who suffer. You are not alone.
jmo

Thanks much for sharing @steeltowngirl.

For all that don't understand, think of Naomi Judd who for decades shared her battle with "not today," as carefully stated by OP. (Judd died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound on April 30, 2022).

More important, depression does not discriminate. Regardless of your age, race, religion, sex, creed, or socio-economic status, nobody is exempt.


 
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  • #638
I think some Chipotle open at 10 or 10:30, but I am not positive. I believe the office called her after 10a, too. So, it’s possible she was getting an early lunch.
It probably isn’t the most likely scenario though.

I am not short and average size and I could climb in my small car passenger seat from the driver seat, without exiting.

*My opinions
She was already late for work and this shopping center wasn't really on the way.
 
  • #639
I guess having her apple watch on wasn't helpful in finding her since her phone was left at home? JMO
 
  • #640
I‘ve had suicidal ideation for most of my life. I still do. I can’t help it. There is a suicide note somewhere in my local police station’s office. They told my family if I ever wanted it back, I would have to go in and sign for it. That was back in 2013. I barely survived and spent weeks in ICU on a respirator. I believe in miracles. I think about that note of sadness and blessed relief sometimes as I imagine it in an old Manila folder in a dusty cardboard box still sitting in a corner office…

This guy took his own life two months after dropping this song to inspire others. No one ever knows what another goes through…
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I am so sorry for your struggles.
I am sad for Chrissy's family.
I lost my own mother to suicide. I could not save her. I thought that she did it, in part, because of me.
I have learned that the sadness she must have felt was basically all that she could feel. It was never about me.

Sending you, Grandma , love and strength.
 

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