GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #11 *Arrest*

[JMOM]

Hahahahaha ok that made me laugh! Everything about this is deeply painful. We are a determined bunch of folks though. We will find her.

Thanks for your apology and explanation. I can understand that it must be difficult to read some of the theories that have been suggested here, but I really hope you do believe that we do very much want to find Christina and help solve this mystery for her family. I also hope that you can see that since most of us on WS are not directly connected to the family or friends as you are, we can look at every avenue objectively. The only analogy I can think of is a doctor setting a broken arm: the doctor knows that it might cause pain to set the broken arm in place, but he has to put that aside and just do it. I doubt a parent could set their own kid's arm because they wouldn't want to cause pain, but the doctor, while still being concerned for the patient, does it so the broken arm can heal properly.
I know that's a weird analogy, but it's the only one I can think of.

 

[JMOM]

O/T - I was just looking at other cases and I have to say that the Sapphire Wiggins case is very........ scandalous!

 

[JMOM]

Yes, I will be working on that actually. The verified part.

Although I can't say anything about details I do believe this is all going to come out. And yes I totally agree, it will probably be shocking to some. My jaw hits the floor on the daily. Hehehe

Have you considered becoming a verified insider? It's a simple process.

Also, regarding the BBM...I believe this 100%. I think when LE figure it all out, people will be shocked. IMO.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I have a few questions about the report that came out in the media last week. Obviously as noted some agree with the event of the descending upon the witness's parents home and neighborhood with signage and such..and I have clearly stated my opinion specifically to that. Sorry if not everyone agrees or not.. that is your choice. Raising questions, stating opinion and questions specific to the act of and the process leading up to the picketing is not at all harmful at all.
Per MSM reports here is what is stated :
http://cw33.com/2014/10/20/mystery-man-christina-morris-parents-demand-answers-from-friend/

The mystery man walking with the missing woman in the surveillance video at the Shops of Legacy in Plano is identified as a high school
friend.
Christina Morris’ parents think he knows something.
“I went to his house to talk to him, and he told me his lawyer wouldn’t let him say anything,” Christina’s father Mark Morris said.
So family and friends parked outside his house with signs, demanding that he talk to them.

Here are the list of questions I have about all this... Not only that .but I would also like to see a statement from the witness's point of view as well.
I think it is much needed at this point since we are only seeing and hearing 1 version.
#1 Did CM DAD just show up to the Witness's Family's Front Door and Demand For Him To Tell Him The Truth ??
#2 When CM DAD was at Witness Family Home Was he an Invited Guest or Not ...on the Family Property?
#3 When the Witness told him that his Atty told him not to speak to any one ...Did then CM DAD request the name of the Atty that is retained?
#4 IF CM DAD did then receive the name of the Witness's Atty at the time and left the property ? Or was there a heated exchange of words
#5 Did CM DAD give the name of Witness's Atty to his own Atty to see if there might be a way to have a sit down of a list of specific questions in a agreeable neutral location or amongst the Attys?

Since None of these questions have been addressed as of yet ..I have to assume any initial reasonable and practical solutions or work thru 's were not attempted thus resulting in unnecessary escalation.

 

[Bootsctr]

Great post txyorkiemom and questions that we should all be asking ourselves! I'm a big believer of you catch more bees with honey than vinegar. How did CM's father approach the witness? CM's family's reaction to the walker witness as seen on TV was one which I believe if I had seen and was in fact the walker witness would make me want to not have contact with CM's family either. The BF seems to have been handled with kid gloves. Why not ask the walker witness to meet for coffee or some other neutral meeting place, perhaps a park? Give the witness some assurance that they appreciate him being cooperative with law enforcement and thank him for being friends with Christina since high school and ask him kindly to share what information he has given the police. The family may have done all this - I don't know - but a first step toward engaging the witness should not have been aggressive. JMO!

 

[CookieM]

I was curious: are searches being conducted still? Is HF participating? I saw an interview with JM early on where she was being very supportive of him and said he was definitely helping with searches but listed only three days that he had helped. I know it was only within the first couple weeks, but I wondered if we had evidence of him still joining the family in searches? The other day I saw JM posting something to the effect of your family, friends, dog all miss you so much (I am paraphrasing) and it was odd to me that she didn't say boyfriend. Is he totally out of the picture now? Has he also been advised by an atty to stay quiet? If either of these things are the case I wonder why that isn't criticized. IMO he should be on "the front lines" because otherwise it seems very odd. How could you just sit back and not try to find the girl you love (and I'm only going by his emotional interview and him saying how much he cares for her.) I hope he is at these searches, or selling shirts, or even picketing (even though I am not a fan of that tactic)

 

[Momoffourboys]

I was curious: are searches being conducted still? Is HF participating? I saw an interview with JM early on where she was being very supportive of him and said he was definitely helping with searches but listed only three days that he had helped. I know it was only within the first couple weeks, but I wondered if we had evidence of him still joining the family in searches? The other day I saw JM posting something to the effect of your family, friends, dog all miss you so much (I am paraphrasing) and it was odd to me that she didn't say boyfriend. Is he totally out of the picture now? Has he also been advised by an atty to stay quiet? If either of these things are the case I wonder why that isn't criticized. IMO he should be on "the front lines" because otherwise it seems very odd. How could you just sit back and not try to find the girl you love (and I'm only going by his emotional interview and him saying how much he cares for her.) I hope he is at these searches, or selling shirts, or even picketing (even though I am not a fan of that tactic)

Good stuff, Cookie.
I wonder why noone was officially cleared.
If the family is so certain that HF is not involved, they must have info to feel that way.
In which case, why has he not been "officially" cleared by LE?

 

[Doj1234]

Great post txyorkiemom and questions that we should all be asking ourselves! I'm a big believer of you catch more bees with honey than vinegar. How did CM's father approach the witness? CM's family's reaction to the walker witness as seen on TV was one which I believe if I had seen and was in fact the walker witness would make me want to not have contact with CM's family either. The BF seems to have been handled with kid gloves. Why not ask the walker witness to meet for coffee or some other neutral meeting place, perhaps a park? Give the witness some assurance that they appreciate him being cooperative with law enforcement and thank him for being friends with Christina since high school and ask him kindly to share what information he has given the police. The family may have done all this - I don't know - but a first step toward engaging the witness should not have been aggressive. JMO!

Its hard to know for certain how confrontational the request was. My observation of the two interviews and my own discussion with him has me believing that he is calm and respectful. IMO, the walker is in a tough spot but the spot is self-inflicted. The BF could be in just as tough a spot, but seems to be managing that better.

 

[JMOM]

I will see what I can find out to answer some of these for you.

I have a few questions about the report that came out in the media last week. Obviously as noted some agree with the event of the descending upon the witness's parents home and neighborhood with signage and such..and I have clearly stated my opinion specifically to that. Sorry if not everyone agrees or not.. that is your choice. Raising questions, stating opinion and questions specific to the act of and the process leading up to the picketing is not at all harmful at all.
Per MSM reports here is what is stated :
http://cw33.com/2014/10/20/mystery-man-christina-morris-parents-demand-answers-from-friend/

The mystery man walking with the missing woman in the surveillance video at the Shops of Legacy in Plano is identified as a high school
friend.
Christina Morris’ parents think he knows something.
“I went to his house to talk to him, and he told me his lawyer wouldn’t let him say anything,” Christina’s father Mark Morris said.
So family and friends parked outside his house with signs, demanding that he talk to them.

Here are the list of questions I have about all this... Not only that .but I would also like to see a statement from the witness's point of view as well.
I think it is much needed at this point since we are only seeing and hearing 1 version.
#1 Did CM DAD just show up to the Witness's Family's Front Door and Demand For Him To Tell Him The Truth ??
#2 When CM DAD was at Witness Family Home Was he an Invited Guest or Not ...on the Family Property?
#3 When the Witness told him that his Atty told him not to speak to any one ...Did then CM DAD request the name of the Atty that is retained?
#4 IF CM DAD did then receive the name of the Witness's Atty at the time and left the property ? Or was there a heated exchange of words
#5 Did CM DAD give the name of Witness's Atty to his own Atty to see if there might be a way to have a sit down of a list of specific questions in a agreeable neutral location or amongst the Attys?

Since None of these questions have been addressed as of yet ..I have to assume any initial reasonable and practical solutions or work thru 's were not attempted thus resulting in unnecessary escalation.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Sometimes the reports are saying evening and some are saying morning
like this one : http://cw33.com/2014/10/20/mystery-m...s-from-friend/
Plano PD says they don’t have the evidence that makes this a criminal case.

“All the people that were with Christina that evening, we’ve talked to. Some of them, we’ve talked to multiple times. We haven’t cleared anyone that was with her that evening,” PIO David Tilley said.

Well that would be Friday .... So are they saying she disappeared on the 29th now??

Also who all was she with on Friday evening??

Can someone confirm this at all.... was it reported IIRC that HF Initially stated that CM went out shopping?? Or did he change his story too???
ALL JMO

 

[JMOM]

He is a very mild mannered person IMO

Its hard to know for certain how confrontational the request was. My observation of the two interviews and my own discussion with him has me believing that he is calm and respectful. IMO, the walker is in a tough spot but the spot is self-inflicted. The BF could be in just as tough a spot, but seems to be managing that better.

 

[JMOM]

IMO he is a very mild mannered person. More mild mannered than I might be in his situation.

Its hard to know for certain how confrontational the request was. My observation of the two interviews and my own discussion with him has me believing that he is calm and respectful. IMO, the walker is in a tough spot but the spot is self-inflicted. The BF could be in just as tough a spot, but seems to be managing that better.

 

[cindyrella7767]

IMO he is a very mild mannered person. More mild mannered than I might be in his situation.

But could that not also represent fear of being exposed? He might not have been present that evening but if there is more to this many more including him could possibly be involved. My gut says no but there is that slight window we have to leave open for all scenarios. My overall thoughts are she agreed and accepted a ride somewhere somehow with someone she felt safe with. The pings as stated before go off towers and she could have even been 5-10 miles away when the last tower ping was available, but through some technology I do believe police can and hopefully will figure out more about either her pings or others who were anywhere seen with her during the last two weeks leading up to her disappearance as they may hold a key/clue and once any of those clues unlock something that may jive or not jive with stories being told of what did and didn't occur that evening if will provide the window again to another possibility. I truly believe PPD at this point probably more than they are sharing and with good reason they are holding out. Need solid evidence and not circumstantial. Maybe she can break loose from her abductor and help bring herself home If this is the case as anything at this point we all agree or presume is possible. My hopes regardless what happened she's alive and comes home SOON!

 

[Doj1234]

BBM ... So you are a reporter of sorts??

Not at all, I stopped by a couple of weeks ago when the picketing started to show support and had a conversation with him.

 

[txyorkiemom]

IMO he is a very mild mannered person. More mild mannered than I might be in his situation.

JMO--
Let me re - assure everyone that no one is putting him(dad-if that is who this is about) in the general category box of being anything other...
We are only discussing this particular article on the day he went to the witness's family's home to talk/demand answers ... not any other time

 

[Doj1234]

But could that not also represent fear of being exposed? He might not have been present that evening but if there is more to this many more including him could possibly be involved. My gut says no but there is that slight window we have to leave open for all scenarios. My overall thoughts are she agreed and accepted a ride somewhere somehow with someone she felt safe with. The pings as stated before go off towers and she could have even been 5-10 miles away when the last tower ping was available, but through some technology I do believe police can and hopefully will figure out more about either her pings or others who were anywhere seen with her during the last two weeks leading up to her disappearance as they may hold a key/clue and once any of those clues unlock something that may jive or not jive with stories being told of what did and didn't occur that evening if will provide the window again to another possibility. I truly believe PPD at this point probably more than they are sharing and with good reason they are holding out. Need solid evidence and not circumstantial. Maybe she can break loose from her abductor and help bring herself home If this is the case as anything at this point we all agree or presume is possible. My hopes regardless what happened she's alive and comes home SOON!

I believe that the comment was referring to CM bio-dad. But, otherwise I agree.

 

[cindyrella7767]

But could that not also represent fear of being exposed? He might not have been present that evening but if there is more to this many more including him could possibly be involved. My gut says no but there is that slight window we have to leave open for all scenarios. My overall thoughts are she agreed and accepted a ride somewhere somehow with someone she felt safe with. The pings as stated before go off towers and she could have even been 5-10 miles away when the last tower ping was available, but through some technology I do believe police can and hopefully will figure out more about either her pings or others who were anywhere seen with her during the last two weeks leading up to her disappearance as they may hold a key/clue and once any of those clues unlock something that may jive or not jive with stories being told of what did and didn't occur that evening if will provide the window again to another possibility. I truly believe PPD at this point probably more than they are sharing and with good reason they are holding out. Need solid evidence and not circumstantial. Maybe she can break loose from her abductor and help bring herself home If this is the case as anything at this point we all agree or presume is possible. My hopes regardless what happened she's alive and comes home SOON!

Ps it can ping and show the vicinity of the shops even though she was NOT exactly right there. I was trying to find the case in Seattle where it was determined the same as well. A innocent person was convicted based on a ping and later overturned. Although this could be PPD not wanting suspects to KNOW what they know!

 

[Bootsctr]

Not at all, I stopped by a couple of weeks ago when the picketing started to show support and had a conversation with him.

So you talked to him a few weeks ago? When did the picketing actually start then?

 

[cindyrella7767]

I believe that the comment was referring to CM bio-dad. But, otherwise I agree.

Thanks for clarification. I totally agree the father and family I believe have been very patient and I don't know any of the circumstances surrounding him asking but in reality why does it matter? He was the very last person seen with your daughter and her dad and family just want answers. I doubt he went over there trying to cause s ruckus or one would have ensued and there would have been no picketing. He was probably simply asking and I too agree based on his body mannerisms, the father seems extremely genuine and kind. They all do and regardless of some of the circumstances of some of the friends Christina associated with and what they were involved with that we're possibly illegal should in no way be the reflection of who this family is and what their about. I think every family in America has some dysfunction to a slight degree in a variety of ways and we probably all have someone we know close to us who have been there and we still love them as that what family is all about. There is absolutely no proof from what I've seen indicating Christina has ever been involved with anything illegal and just because you associate with those who do, do not mean you also do. Same Scenario as a wife beater! Just because the wife is being beat does it indicate she's beating others but she stays with the beater because she loves him. It's not always easy leaving people and the longer you stay, the more involved you become, the more dangerous it can get and the more you become at risk for anything like being in the wrong place at the right time!

#comehomenina

 

[cindyrella7767]

Ps. I don't recall where or who or when someone mentioned a purse scam but I did not see proof so again I'm stating my personal beliefs. To each their own