GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[JnRyan]

Great post and so true. It has happened in other cases. A person's name gets out, people formed an opinion that he HAD to be guilty and started harassing him, cyber bullying him, making FB pages about him, going to his house, just tormenting the poor man. It got so bad the police were actually following through with some of the on-line threats to the people making them, basically telling them that if something happens to this man, LE was going to look at that guy first. There are a lot of weird and unhinged people out in the world and just because we wouldn't do something like that, it doesn't mean no body would. Some people decide they are judge, jury and executioner all on their own and that they have a right to it. IMO, JMO, MOO.

It happened in the Hannah Graham case. The guy we all THOUGHT was the last to see her in the video in mall turned out to be a guy that called in a tip to the police early on. When the videos were released, he said to hell with the tip line as he already tried that and walked into to the police station and tried to give a description of the guy who finally ended up Hannah. LJ Matthew. But most of us didn't believe it. Had to be a lie. No one else had been seen following Hannah. Till LE REVISITED the video and realized they made a mistake the guy really was telling the truth. What LE originally thought was a reflection turned out to be Matthew walking with her. We all got tunnel vision and refused to see anything else.

 

[Momoffourboys]

It happened in the Hannah Graham case. The guy we all THOUGHT was the last to see her in the video in mall turned out to be a guy that called in a tip to the police early on. When the videos were released, he said to hell with the tip line as he already tried that and walked into to the police station and tried to give a description of the guy who finally ended up Hannah. LJ Matthew. But most of us didn't believe it. Had to be a lie. No one else had been seen following Hannah. Till LE REVISITED the video and realized they made a mistake the guy really was telling the truth. What LE originally thought was a reflection turned out to be Matthew walking with her. We all got tunnel vision and refused to see anything else.

So true. I remember "creepy white guy" who ended up helping to solve the case.

 

[SaintGirl]

How do we know for sure the group called Christina out of the blue to invite her out? Could she have called one of them for company, if she had been upset that day/bad week etc and wanted to go out? Maybe her regular close friends were away? And they invited her along to join their plans?

I thought of that. Because I've done the same thing. Maybe Carlton can let us know who invited who?

 

[cluciano63]

I can't imagine anyone thinking the family would be lying. But it is possible they might take as truth "information" from people they believe they can trust. That is my reason for wanting the LE source on everything. Families are obviously emotionally involved and may not always be able to screen out someone else who is covering for themselves or other people or just want the attention focused, in this case, on EA for some reason. Jmo

 

[cluciano63]

I thought of that. Because I've done the same thing. Maybe Carlton can let us know who invited who?

Her phone log should help...to see who instigated contact at least, within the day or so prior to Friday, or on that day.

 

[carltondance]

Just two things to add: I am thinking that a couple of posters one here (both most likely local) seem to know something the rest of us don't. And that's okay. Whatever gets to the truth of this beautiful girl's life is the most important thing, we all agree on that.
But I want to say that the little bit of objectivity that some of us have towards EA is justified. How WOULD anybody know what he said, on what day, what changed in his statements...I just feel like some of you know more than you are able to say at this point. We get that taking his seat belt and mats are IMO kind of a big deal. They aren't looking in anybody else's car. We just don't know the timeline like LE does - YET.

Fully understandable and once again I apologize for the slow release of info, we walk to somebody else's drum beat and cant step out of cadence without consequences. Thanks for your patience

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

Fully understandable and once again I apologize for the slow release of info, we walk to somebody else's drum beat and cant step out of cadence without consequences. Thanks for your patience

Well said. We all just want to find Christina.

 

[Tatum]

I'm sure this is a stupid question but I'm not so smart sometimes. Has anyone tried calling her phone recently? Do we know if LE or her parents have combed through the regular callers vs those that seemed to stop calling before she was reported missing?

 

[JnRyan]

I'm sure this is a stupid question but I'm not so smart sometimes. Has anyone tried calling her phone recently? Do we know if LE or her parents have combed through the regular callers vs those that seemed to stop calling before she was reported missing?

Don't know about that....sometimes it is that 'stupid question' that gets folks moving in another direction. And maybe the right direction. Personally, I believe we need more 'stupid questions'.

 

[SweetT]

I lived in Plano yrs ago when my oldest was a baby, my middle daughter lived there about 5 yrs ago so I am just somewhat familiar with the area but honestly I dont recall there being any wooded areas to hide anyone etc. Mostly sidewalks and concrete and buildings...not like where Hannah or Morgan went missing from. I recall hardly any trees when I was there..unless they were put in for landscaping in a yard or something.

 

[Seajay]

It happened in the Hannah Graham case. The guy we all THOUGHT was the last to see her in the video in mall turned out to be a guy that called in a tip to the police early on. When the videos were released, he said to hell with the tip line as he already tried that and walked into to the police station and tried to give a description of the guy who finally ended up Hannah. LJ Matthew. But most of us didn't believe it. Had to be a lie. No one else had been seen following Hannah. Till LE REVISITED the video and realized they made a mistake the guy really was telling the truth. What LE originally thought was a reflection turned out to be Matthew walking with her. We all got tunnel vision and refused to see anything else.

Oh yes, I remember that. I was on that case early on. WG. Just about everyone thought he was the culprit and that he was creepy and he was the last one to see her, he had been following her so it had to be him, and that he went to the police because he thought he was smarter than the police and was putting one over on them and after all, don't ya know, perps insert themselves into the investigation so yes, it was WG, it had to be. LOL Until JLM had to give DNA samples and his background was looked in to. Then poor WG was exonerated. He was innocent. IMO, FWIW, MOO.

 

[JnRyan]

I'm sure this is a stupid question but I'm not so smart sometimes. Has anyone tried calling her phone recently? Do we know if LE or her parents have combed through the regular callers vs those that seemed to stop calling before she was reported missing?

"Tatum"! Now I know where I've seen that name! Carltondance said you MIGHT have a diagram of the garage showing the location of the cameras. Is that true? If so, can you post it again?

 

[stwpoke92]

Has the theory of someone waiting for her in the backseat of her car ever been floated? I know I always look in the back of my SUV both in the cargo and the back seat before I get in by myself at night. Just a thought. That would assume someone had a key I suppose. It would also be a tight fit!!

 

[cluciano63]

Not sure about this case, obviously, but I have seen cases on television (real cases) where detectives tried the missing person or murder victim's phone on a regular basis, just in case. A passerby could find a phone months later and put in a new battery and card, presumably, and have no idea it was "wanted". But LE would need to know exactly where it had been found. Jmo

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Ever since we got the little bit of info about the interpersonal relationships of the group that night I have had a couple of statements swirling through my head:
1: SN comments (paraphrasing here)- she insisted on leaving.... I don't see how anyone could lay a finger on her.

2: HF BF( paraphrasing)- I wish I would have been there, none of this would of happened... I just hope she comes back alive.

Now it just makes me think they have a strong idea what happened. Poor Christina may have walked into a lions den that night. Just MOO

HF didn't say he wanted her to come back alive, he said he wanted her to come back and "be alive". I think the way he said it is important. I don't think it means he did anything, but I do think it shows he believes and has from the start believed she is dead.

 

[JnRyan]

Has the theory of someone waiting for her in the backseat of her car ever been floated? I know I always look in the back of my SUV both in the cargo and the back seat before I get in by myself at night. Just a thought. That would assume someone had a key I suppose. It would also be a tight fit!!

That would explain some things. Why EA might have not heard anything (they were both inside cars with the windows up). Why EA might not have seen anything (inside the car and out of sight). Wouldn't need a key as some cars there is a way to get w/o a key.

It does raise some counter questions. 2 cameras supposedly near her car. ASSUMING they work and ASSUMING the angle is right, wouldn't the person be seen breaking into the car? How would they know which car to get in the back seat of? And if they knew it was Christina's car, she didn't get to it till 4 in the morning. Got to be a patient person - with the bars closing at 2:30 I can't see them waiting beyond 3:00, 3:30 at the latest.

I'm inclined to believe she never made it to her car.

 

[Happyshoes]

I haven't been on here from the beginning, but I am glad I have seen any negative comments toward the family, grrrr. I can't imagine what I'd do. Talk about ugly. I am following a case here in GA that has me outraged, too (the Dermonds). So hard to understand these kinds of cases. I understand (and feel sick about) the sexual cases, domestic violence, etc. - at least you know what the intent was. This one just makes me sad.

absolutely! the only time you will ever see me get ugly is if it is slamming the family or Christina. Or just outright lies lol I am not here to force views just trying to make sure facts get separated from fiction and to keep distasteful comments towards family flagged.
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[MzOpinion8d]

I am not sure what this statement by EA means “I don’t see how they would know if I’ve only talked to the detectives,” he said. “That’s why I don’t want to talk to them, because they’re obviously going to change things on me. But how would they know if I’ve only talked to the detectives?

The family says he has changed his story. He is asking how would the family know that, if the only people he has given info to is the detectives? And saying that he doesn't want to talk to them because "they're obviously going to [lie]".

I would suggest that they would know because these detectives he spoke with have shared that info with the family, which is what the family says.

It wouldn't.be that hard for him to say "I did not change my story." Yet he doesn't say that, does he?

 

[iluvmua]

Is the inteview with Jonni tonight?

 

[JnRyan]

The family says he has changed his story. He is asking how would the family know that, if the only people he has given info to is the detectives? And saying that he doesn't want to talk to them because "they're obviously going to [lie]".

I would suggest that they would know because these detectives he spoke with have shared that info with the family, which is what the family says.

It wouldn't.be that hard for him to say "I did not change my story." Yet he doesn't say that, does he?

I believe he did say that.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...89e-6398-11e4-b92e-c7f562262965.html?mode=jqm

Last paragraph

"Obviously if there was an inconsistency with the detectives they would be on me, because that’s pretty sketchy to be changing stories all the time. I went to talk to them four times – four days in a row, and my story was consistent, according to [police].”