GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[Bootsctr]

Partied w/o drinking? And they were at Henry's Tavern - No liquor at a Tavern? I guess I liked drinking when I partied in the day. Never went bar-hopping or club-hopping, but I liked partying. Beer pong. Tequila shots. Better if you party at a friend's house because if you get too drunk you can always pass out there and not have to drive.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

Actually PPD stated the contrary :
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/tag/christina-morris/
Plano Police have released surveillance video from the parking garage where a Fort Worth woman disappeared early Saturday morning.

Christina Marie Morris, 23, is seen walking with a friend into the garage at 5717 Legacy Drive early Saturday morning.
Police spokeswoman Heather Bowden said Morris and her friend parked on opposite sides of the garage and parted ways shortly after this video was taken.

This is the last known footage of Morris prior to her disappearance, police say. She hasn’t been seen or heard from since.

That article is from September 5th. Maybe they have obtained information that changed the parking situation. Jmo.

 

[txyorkiemom]

That article is from September 5th. Maybe they have obtained information that changed the parking situation. Jmo.

Maybe maybe not ....

Direct quote from PPD is important to have.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

[modsnip] I'd be pissed if I lost my job and LE took my car for 11 days for something I did not do. It looks like somebody is trying to frame him.

[modsnip]They took HF's phone, if there were texts stating his whereabouts that evening, I'm sure the PD has that info. [modsnip] I for one don't know. [modsnip]

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

He is INNOCENT!
He has not been charged with a crime!

Now Is he a poi or a suspect LE says NO!
but no one is cleared.

did EA do this I don't know but hes been made the number one suspect
by the things that have transpired.

I just want the Correct person to pay for the crime Not a guy that some feel is guilty just because he was the last seen with her.

Innocent till proven guilty

Then let's proclaim that for HF as well!

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!!!

 

[CookieM]

People don't have the right to ruin another family's life because they are in pain and simply have a belief the others are somehow responsible. They should let LE do their job to go after the truth.

If EA is totally innocent...look what has been done to him and to his family. They put the family in harm's way and more, imo.

Even more unfair that this guy is getting death threats and has been openly threatened physical harm by multiple members of the community and the family claims they are NOT accusing him! This is happening and the family is saying that they simply think he has "more information." How do they KNOW he has more information?? Maybe he has told everything to the police and maybe some other people who were there, people who were close friends of CM actually know more information that they are not sharing?

 

[JnRyan]

On thread #13 and it is getting more and more difficult to keep up. Some things that I wonder about this on Christina's case:

- An early TV report showed the garage, where she was parked and locations of cameras. Supposedly 2 cameras near where here car was found.

- Early reports had that ALL the cameras in garage were operational (I can't find that link, but I remember reading it) and now recently I read where 2 cameras were NOT working (again, I can't find it, but I know I read it).

- Early reports stated that EA said they parted ways because his car was parked in one spot and Christina's in another, maybe on opposite sides of the garage. Then reports that the cars were next to or very close to one another. Police later stated (Huffington post article?) that they have heard both versions, but have no evidence one way or another.

- If 2 cameras were not running, where did the video of 3 cars come from? (Christina's step mother mentioned the video in an interview.) From a shop across the street?

As far as EA is concerned, I don't know him and can't tell anything from his TV interviews. That is the reason law enforcement prefers a face to face rather than watching a video or interviewing over the phone. They need to see the person's face and gauge their reactions to small talk or introduction type questions as compared to questions relating to the event or crime. I do believe the possibility of his committing a crime inside of 11 minutes (time to the toll road camera he mentioned in the interview) is unlikely. I know I get in my car in garage, my windows are all up, I turn the engine immediately and then hit the radio or CD player button. (There have been times going down the road I did not hear an emergency vehicle coming up behind me due to engine/wind/closed windows/radio till the last second. Other times I thought I heard a siren or screeching tires outside only to find out it was the radio.) Something could very well have happened to Christina if he was already in his closed car and something continuing out of site between cars farther down in the garage. Not saying THAT is how it went down, but it is entirely possible.

- I'm not sure if we really know when her phone stopped, only that it's last activity was in the vicinity of the Shops at Legacy. I still believe that whatever happened, probably occurred while Christina was concentrating on her phone and one more text and was not fully aware of her surroundings.

- Given all this, this could have just as likely been something committed by a stranger as by someone she knew. Looking at the Hannah Graham case, LJ Matthew was not someone LE believed she knew prior to that night. Matthew stumbled across a situation and took advantage of it.

- I don't believe, given her past history and relationship with her family, that whatever happened she did voluntarily.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

I wouldn't go that far as to say he was doing something proactive for Christina. We do not know what HF was doing for 4 days while no one, except him, realized she was uncharacteristically gone/missing/not checking in/not calling or texting. Just because his father took him to an OK casino and put out a few fliers doesn't mean he did anything on his own to help find her.

I asked if anyone knew where the others that were with Christina that night were in the days following her disappearance, I don't.

 

[JnRyan]

The last that I saw, PPD stated that they have heard they were parked on opposite sides and another version that they were parked very close to one another. The police stated that they have no evidence to support either one.

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

I think LE will have a good timeline but we just don't know it yet. I would think they looked at all the video of cars coming and going that night. And didn't Boots say that EA's family has a security camera on their house, too? That could help. He has to account for every minute, IMO.
Having said that, I tend to think that the reason he didn't meet with the family is because he received a mountain of hate mail, people threatening to smash his head with a hammer and who knows what else, threats to his family - plus he had talked to LE 4 times. I am leaning toward him being oblivious to what CM was doing when they parted ways. She probably was continuing to text. Doesn't LE have her phone? They would know if she asked someone to come get her. This is a very confusing case, but to those who know the area (I certainly don't), I can see how you think 11 minutes is too long, etc.

I doubt he received threats before he was publicly named. Do any of the articles give a date showing when Christina's family tried to contact him the first time?

 

[OldFashionWithaFlair]

Maybe maybe not ....

Direct quote from PPD is important to have.

It's also very important that they continue their investigation in order to obtain new information, which is very possible since it's been almost two months since that article was printed. JMO.

 

[Bootsctr]

Moo,omo,IMHO,A few things.....first of all...I used to live off legacy drive, very close to the shops of legacy..... It should take wayyyy less than 11 minutes to get on that tollway back tonallen, let's say maybe 3 min most. There are no gas stations nor places to get food from leaving the shops heading to toll way either.

Also, everyone on here took Vii3's info as true. I happen to see CM that same night at a diff bar with one of her girlfriends around 11ish, on complete other side from Henerys. I saw her and had eye contact with her, she looked bored.....we my hubby and I saw her and we reported it to the police and HF and Jonni CMS mom through connections that I have with them from FB. Vii3 did not report what she saw...
I wrote to the moderators on her to be verified and got no answer. From the first time I logged on here.....

[modsnip]
This is MOO. And facts....
There was something else I wanted to say but I forgot. It's in the middle of the night and I'm going back to sleep. I was happy to post this late/ early thinking that you all will be able to read first thing when you awake. I don't get to log on here until my toddler is sound asleep. Which seems to be never,jk.
Happy nov 1st ! Our temps here in north central Texas are very cold.....
These statements are OMO, and from what I know in my heart,and mind, and what I have reported to LE and CM's Mom.
Moo,HMO,omo,etc.......

Do you remember what Christina was wearing? Do you remember her texting? Were guys hitting on her?

 

[stwpoke92]

Well, I have to respectfully disagree. I've parked in that lot many many times and have entered via the walkway shown in the video (by Potbelly). Going right toward Dunkin Donuts, part of the parking area is under the ramp that leads to the 2nd floor. If he was parked there (which I have no idea) up against the ramp support wall or against the outside wall (under the ramp) it's very possible not to see what was happening at the other end of the garage small or not. JMO, MOO and all that.

[modsnip] I also understand innocent until proven guilty but if you guys saw that parking garage you would realize no way he didn't see or hear something, there is just no way!!!!!!

 

[stwpoke92]

Recent posts here are saying the 11 minutes was to get from the parking garage to the tollway. That isn't what was reported on the news (forget which one). It was reported that they have him going through the toll booth on 121 east toward Allen 11 minutes after he said he left the garage. For us locals that know the area and have driven the exact route in question, hitting that first tollbooth at 11 minutes is completely reasonable IMO.

I think LE will have a good timeline but we just don't know it yet. I would think they looked at all the video of cars coming and going that night. And didn't Boots say that EA's family has a security camera on their house, too? That could help. He has to account for every minute, IMO.
Having said that, I tend to think that the reason he didn't meet with the family is because he received a mountain of hate mail, people threatening to smash his head with a hammer and who knows what else, threats to his family - plus he had talked to LE 4 times. I am leaning toward him being oblivious to what CM was doing when they parted ways. She probably was continuing to text. Doesn't LE have her phone? They would know if she asked someone to come get her. This is a very confusing case, but to those who know the area (I certainly don't), I can see how you think 11 minutes is too long, etc.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

We also know that EA has a powerful which I imagine has a very loud engine, if he's driving away, possibly with music on and having has a few drinks (he said that in one of the interviews I think) then if he didn't look in his mirror he would have been oblivious to what was happening.

That said I can't shake doubts about his demeanor in the interviews and lack of contact with the family. A poster above went out of her was to contact the family to report a chance encounter in a bar that night, what on earth would go through a person's mind that would make them think it as in any way right to ignore the family in such a situation.

I get that a skater dude ignores the fact that his live in gf is absent (self centredness of youth), I get that a young man doesn't walk a girl to her car door (thoughtless, selfish or badly brought up) but I can see no reason or excuse for the fact that not one person in EA's life told him to damn well contact the family and tell them everything he could remember about the night. And he wonders why people are against him.

He talked to LE and maybe LE told him not to talk to anyone about his statement early on. We can't know what LE discussed with him during those 4 interviews.

His demeanor was fine in the media interviews, imo. [modsnip].

HF was "part of the fam" since they were living together, but he ignored the family for the entire 4 days when he KNEW she was supposed to have been home after the last text message close to 4:00am. And if I was aware a guy had disrespected my daughter during their relationship by taking off for days at a time and by not acknowledging her feelings whatsoever...he would NOT be standing in my inner circle when she came up missing because I tend to believe that is really mental abuse on his part. What else did he do to "punish" her?! Nope. Not in my house!

 

[JnRyan]

I think LE will have a good timeline but we just don't know it yet. I would think they looked at all the video of cars coming and going that night. And didn't Boots say that EA's family has a security camera on their house, too? That could help. He has to account for every minute, IMO.
Having said that, I tend to think that the reason he didn't meet with the family is because he received a mountain of hate mail, people threatening to smash his head with a hammer and who knows what else, threats to his family - plus he had talked to LE 4 times. I am leaning toward him being oblivious to what CM was doing when they parted ways. She probably was continuing to text. Doesn't LE have her phone? They would know if she asked someone to come get her. This is a very confusing case, but to those who know the area (I certainly don't), I can see how you think 11 minutes is too long, etc.

From the reports I've read LE is still looking for her phone. BUT they should be able to get her records. And if she is on her dad's phone plan he may have given LE permission to access her phone records and thus eliminating the time delay to get a warrant.

 

[cindyrella7767]

Well, I have to respectfully disagree. I've parked in that lot many many times and have entered via the walkway shown in the video (by Potbelly). Going right toward Dunkin Donuts, part of the parking area is under the ramp that leads to the 2nd floor. If he was parked there (which I have no idea) up against the ramp support wall or against the outside wall (under the ramp) it's very possible not to see what was happening at the other end of the garage small or not. JMO, MOO and all that.

From where the exact spot she was parked per the link posted initially with her father and LE on MSM and where he went to the right are not on opposite sides. The Henry tavern on same bottom floor utilized the other area for valet leaving a small 50 foot maximum radius of where he potentially parked and if he is the heartless guy he appears to be then yea maybe he got in car and didn't care if she made it safe to her car.

 

[suzyjackson]

I doubt he received threats before he was publicly named. Do any of the articles give a date showing when Christina's family tried to contact him the first time?

He may have only been publicly named recently but here we've known his name almost from the first thread and I'm sure many many people in Plano have been aware of his involvement since the day Christina was reported missing.

 

[suzyjackson]

Recent posts here are saying the 11 minutes was to get from the parking garage to the tollway. That isn't what was reported on the news (forget which one). It was reported that they have him going through the toll booth on 121 east toward Allen 11 minutes after he said he left the garage. For us locals that know the area and have driven the exact route in question, hitting that first tollbooth at 11 minutes is completely reasonable IMO.

And I would guess that maybe if he had drunk alcohol as he said he might have been driving more slowly than usual to compensate

 

[suzyjackson]

Yes, I agree the text messages from Christina were still on Hunter's phone.

This is interesting and something I hadn't considered before. If HF did still have the texts on his phone then I'd say he's very unlikely to be involved in anything shady. If he'd had anything to do with Christina's disappearance he would have already disposed of her phone , keeping any record of him having received the texts would just incriminate him. Without CM's phone he could just say he never got the texts about the key (is there anyway to prove that someone opened a text once it's been deleted?)

JMO