GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

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  • #362
I honestly have a statement/question. It would seem really great to me that there are two verified users on here. I'm getting a vibe that is opposite of that. I want to find Christina, I want Christina home! I would think having two people that could give some insight to this case would be a great thing. At least that's how I feel. Jmo.

Oh no.... That's not really fair.

Hold on... I think I read that the wrong way... Hahaha.

I read good.
 
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It has only been in the last week that ea has had his name in media. As far as the pickets, it would appear that it worked seeing as how he has finally done an interview and spoken

From the info I am privy to, the only thing gained by picketing was him doing interviews....which seems (IMO) to further upset people as they felt he was being dishonest and cold. Again, from the way I see it.
 
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From the info I am privy to, the only thing gained by picketing was him doing interviews....which seems (IMO) to further upset people as they felt he was being dishonest and cold. Again, from the way I see it.

Understandable
 
  • #367
A case I am watching now on an older Dateline, the police did not even tell the family when they got hits from two different items, one a vehicle driven by the husband of the missing woman, for human remains having been in the car (and on a blanket maybe). So I fully believe LE keeps back a lot of significant info from families and have seen many a family of a missing person talk about their frustration in not knowing what is going on.

They may have dismissed EA long ago and have a new POI in mind, or maybe EA is the only suspect, or they could have several or none. I am not at all sure a family would know. But jmo
 
  • #368
Also, EA may be speaking out in an attempt to be able to get a job, get on with his life. Maybe it seems callous but if he has done his part for police, he is not obligated to do more. If I had done that (cooperated with LE) I would be going crazy seeing my life ruined by happening to be walking alongside Christina when she later vanished (if he is innocent). I probably would not be inclined to reach out to family if I knew they felt I was lying. He sat on this info a long time (that his car was taken, that he had so many interviews) and maybe it just built up. I do not know if he is innocent, but his behavior has not made him "guilty" in my eyes. It may make him a twenty-something self-centered kind of person, but if that was evidence of guilt, many young people who hung out with a now-missing person should be in jail.

Jmo
 
  • #369
From the info I am privy to, the only thing gained by picketing was him doing interviews....which seems (IMO) to further upset people as they felt he was being dishonest and cold. Again, from the way I see it.

The way I see it CM's family was pleading with EA to talk with them, to tell them what he could about their daughter in the last moments before she seemingly disappeared. Instead he chose, probably at the instigation of his attorney, to give interviews to the news media. Doesn't pass my smell test.
 
  • #370
Just as it has been said that all HF is (as of yet) guilty of, is being a crappy boyfriend for not answering calls/texts and not reporting CM missing. I believe the same is true for EA (unless further info becomes available) and he may just be guilty of being a crappy friend/person. Neither may be guilty of anything more. IMO.
 
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The way I see it CM's family was pleading with EA to talk with them, to tell them what he could about their daughter in the last moments before she seemingly disappeared. Instead he chose, probably at the instigation of his attorney, to give interviews to the news media. Doesn't pass my smell test.

very factual statement
 
  • #372
IMO being a mother, if my child was in this situation, the last thing on my mind would have been retaining an attorney. The first thing on my mind would have been reaching out to this mother and father to see what I could do to help. Wasn't done. Mark tried to privately speak with him to no avail. He has the right not to speak with them and they have the right to do what they are doing. Plain and simple. JMO

The way I see it CM's family was pleading with EA to talk with them, to tell them what he could about their daughter in the last moments before she seemingly disappeared. Instead he chose, probably at the instigation of his attorney, to give interviews to the news media. Doesn't pass my smell test.
 
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Just as it has been said that all HF is (as of yet) guilty of, is being a crappy boyfriend for not answering calls/texts and not reporting CM missing. I believe the same is true for EA (unless further info becomes available) and he may just be guilty of being a crappy friend/person. Neither may be guilty of anything more. IMO.

Yes, that's true. He may just be guilty of being a crappy friend/person.
 
  • #374
He is INNOCENT!
He has not been charged with a crime!

Now Is he a poi or a suspect LE says NO!
but no one is cleared.

did EA do this I don't know but hes been made the number one suspect
by the things that have transpired.

I just want the Correct person to pay for the crime Not a guy that some feel is guilty just because he was the last seen with her.

Innocent till proven guilty

Maybe we've been sleuthing long enough to understand/accept that narrowing down the right suspect is only the first step. How many people were ready to convict Jessica H's friend, the one who was with her before she rode her bike home. Who knew her case would lead where it did?

It is frustrating when we are unaware if LE has evidence or not or getting close to making an arrest or nowhere close, or are fairly certain who the perpetrator is but don't have enough evidence THAT WILL HOLD UP IN COURT.

I've whined often about how two factors, LE and trial, have to work to not cancel the other out. Does this make sense? LE is restricted in ways because of what is being demonstrated (attitude toward suspected perp) on these threads. They can't arrest someone until they feel there's enough evidence to be certain the person is the guilty one. So, you know LE is trying hard to connect the dots. Until there's an arrest, we have to assume they've not been successful so far. An arrest isn't always dependent on finding the body but best when they can/do.

If I may tell Eileen, that you and I during Kelli B.'s case, prior to the official arrest, held out from convicting, via WS threads, the person who was last seen with Kelli because he hadn't been charged with the crime. Almost everyone else seemed positive it was him all along. If we had convicted him along with the rest, we could say, "see, I was right and you (dumbs**** - felt like that) were wrong". But you know what? We are right according to the law, in that, it was what people thought happened regardless of being privy to all the evidence. I'm opposed to treating cases as if they were contests. In Kelli's case, there were other scenarios that could have played out even if not the most convenient or probable scenarios for a perp to pull off. Those possibilities make for reasonable doubt. So are we to convict based on the most obvious conclusion? Wish all cases could be that neat and easy. I've watched enough cases presented on ID channel to know all cases are not simple and direct. When little evidence is presented during an investigation, how can one convict someone over the Internet?

It alarms me when the tone in a case turns to us against them. At the same time, I think it is good opportunity for debate. There isn't always a level playing field. Locals may have more inside information for example or some posters have more experience with law enforcement or legal issues in real life. Still, I remember the posters who can't appreciate any level of hesitancy to believe what they believe and then chastise those who did not side with them when all is said and done. Anyway, I digress.

My arguments are never meant to bully anybody as I've witnessed during other cases. Just don't ever want to see an innocent person charged for a crime s/he didn't commit.
 
  • #375
I agree. Imo, it does not make him guilty. Objectively speaking. ;)
 
  • #376
We all have different viewpoints. If he were my son and had been interviewed more than twice and his brother - who wasn't there - interviewed more than twice and the car kept for over a week, I'd get a lawyer for my family. And follow his advice. As far as searches go, I've heard of law enforcement agencies not wanting a person in his position involved with the searches. Probably not the case here since the boyfriend is involved, but his lawyer made have said to stay away. And an experienced lawyer would have more knowledge about this than me. I'd follow that advice. He is the last person to see her so he is high on LE's radar. At this point in time I've never met him, don't know him. I can't tell anything about him from an edited TV interview after he may or may not have been coached. At this point I don't see him as a suspect or cleared. But that is only how I would handle it, others may have a different view.
 
  • #377
I agree. I would never want an innocent person to be convicted of a crime either. I would have never gotten verified in Christina's case had I felt that she and her family were being treated in a fair manner. I have really not experienced that here. Carlton and I have both tracked thru the woods, water, heat in Texas looking for Christina. We have both stood next to Jonni, Ronnie, Mark, Anna, Sarah, and Jake. We have seen their heartbreak and the torture they are going trough trying to find out where she is and what happened. To me it seemed a small thing to ask for the last person with her to sit down and just talk to them. Like everyone else did willingly. Sometime people here it seems look at it as just another case. I thought maybe the insight would help some see these are real people with real feelings and this is a terrible situation they are in. I hope that the rude attitudes and hurtful comments stop because this isn't help find Christina.


Maybe we've been sleuthing long enough to understand/accept that narrowing down the right suspect is only the first step. How many people were ready to convict Jessica H's friend, the one who was with her before she rode her bike home. Who knew her case would lead where it did?

It is frustrating when we are unaware if LE has evidence or not or getting close to making an arrest or nowhere close, or are fairly certain who the perpetrator is but don't have enough evidence THAT WILL HOLD UP IN COURT.

I've whined often about how two factors, LE and trial, have to work to not cancel the other out. Does this make sense? LE is restricted in ways because of what is being demonstrated (attitude toward suspected perp) on these threads. They can't arrest someone until they feel there's enough evidence to be certain the person is the guilty one. So, you know LE is trying hard to connect the dots. Until there's an arrest, we have to assume they've not been successful so far. An arrest isn't always dependent on finding the body but best when they can/do.

If I may tell Eileen, that you and I during Kelli B.'s case, prior to the official arrest, held out from convicting, via WS threads, the person who was last seen with Kelli because he hadn't been charged with the crime. Almost everyone else seemed positive it was him all along. If we had convicted him along with the rest, we could say, "see, I was right and you (dumbs**** - felt like that) were wrong". But you know what? We are right according to the law, in that, it was what people thought happened regardless of being privy to all the evidence. I[m opposed to treating cases as if they are contests. In Kelli's case, there were other scenarios that could have played out even if not the most convenient or probable for the perp to pull off. That is called reasonable doubt. So are we to convict based on the most obvious conclusion? Wish all cases could be that neat and easy. I've watched enough cases presented on ID channel to know all cases are not simple and direct. When little evidence is presented during an investigation, how can one convict someone over the Internet?

It alarms me when the tone in a case turns to us against them. At the same time, I think it is good opportunity for debate. There isn't always a level playing field. Locals may have more inside information for example or some posters have more experience with law enforcement or legal issues in real life. Still, I remember the posters who can't appreciate any level of hesitancy to believe what they believe and then chastise those who did side with them when all is said and done. Anyway, I digress.

My arguments are never meant to bully anybody as I've witnessed during other cases. Just don't ever want to see an innocent person charged for a crime s/he didn't commit.
 
  • #378
I agree. Imo, it does not make him guilty. Objectively speaking. ;)

Well, speaking for myself only, I don't think he is guilty at this stage of the investigation, but I can't be diverted from considering him as a possibility until more info becomes available.
 
  • #379
Did you watch the actual video? Where he says she wasn't a friend of his so he didn't feel the need to walk her to her car?

I mean come on this quote just shows what a total piece of s*** this guy really is, i'm not saying he's 100% guilty but what a thing to say on MSM.

Yes, and I took instant note of it. Huh?
Me too!
 
  • #380
Exactly....
 
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