GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #19 *Arrest*

[frisson]

My point is there is a double standard here. We are excusing the behavior of one, while even possible accusing the other of lying. We don't know what she told HF, just like we don't know what he told his parents. What we do know is she was gone from her home from 4 days no call and text and he was for 3 extra days. I find it very hypocritical to excuse one behavior and not the other. But that is me. Know, you know more than we do, so I understand why you may feel differently.

YES. ^^^ and there it is.
That is exactly what I meant by cherry picking.
However, I, too, understand why some feel differently.

 

[catpatrol]

I think you are correct. Inconsiderate boyfriend, Christina deserves better. However, how do we know he didn't try to contact Christina or EA for that matter in those 4 days?

You're right, we (at WS) do not. However, I have seen it hinted that he has. I was only adding in my 2 cents to the whole HF 4 days vs EA in jail 7 days debate. I find it to be a diversionary argument. I will edit my post to reflect that.

 

[hockeymom4]

I think you are correct. Inconsiderate boyfriend, Christina deserves better. However, how do we know he didn't try to contact Christina or EA for that matter in those 4 days?

This will be my last comment for awhile, but I read it on here, the 4 days. It was discussed long before I joined this thread, and since it wasn't deleted, it was assumed it wasn't rumor, as rumor isn't allowed. Lesson learned.

 

[JMOM]

Gotcha. I understand now thanks for explaining.

I know that everyone wants Christina found I didn't mean it to come out as if I didn't think that. I was merely stating what I personally want. That's all.

EA doesn't have a very good track record IMO of telling the truth. If LE says that the (and this may not be the exact wording so forgive me if it's not verbatim) way they think she left the garage is in EA's vehicle and the other 2 vehicles that left the garage have been cleared, how did she leave? I can tell you she didn't hop a wall and take off on her own. Her car never moved from the spot it was parked in that night until LE found it and Mark picked it up. Did he take her somewhere? Were they meeting other people? What I am trying to get at is that he holds the key IMO to finding her. Did he hurt her? I hope not. Is she alive? God I hope so. He just needs to out with it. There are too many lies for me to believe he doesn't know anything about where Christina is. JMO

JMOM, I was not referring to you. I was jumping off Hockeymom's post.

I do think drugs can be a pertinent factor in missing persons cases, as well as romantic relationships, frame of mind, and many other things.

I, too, want to know where Christina is. I want to know if she is alive or if she has been harmed, and I want the person responsible for that prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

My point is, what if EA IS telling the truth that he did not harm Christina nor does he know what happened to her or where she is?

 

[frisson]

I think you are correct. Inconsiderate boyfriend, Christina deserves better. However, how do we know he didn't try to contact Christina or EA for that matter in those 4 days?

Trying to contact someone and actually reaching/communicating with that someone are two different things, imo.

I was unaware that HF contacted EA in those 4 days (not "tried" to, but actually reached him and had communication with him.) Again, two different things. (imo)

 

[Mamamerced]

I completely agree in regard to the airbags and the computer. I was referring to a variety of injuries that can be sustained during impacts that are not direct, severe, full-on/head-on collisions.

It couldn't explain a bite mark, though, IMO.

 

[JMOM]

I believe the discussion was that he didn't report her missing or contact Jonni or Mark when she didn't come home. Not that he didn't try and contact Christina. I could be wrong, there has been so much I am not even sure now unless I go all the way back and start reading it all again. I am too tired to do that, I have searching to do.

I am just trying to help us all get maybe some new ideas and bring her home just like everyone else is. I may have a little closer vested interest than some but my goal is just the same as everyone else's. I hope to be able to shed someone light on some of the areas that are not so easily understood. That is my goal. I hope you continue to join in. I do get great ideas here. Even if we don't always agree, everyone's opinion does matter and the work you have put in is appreciated.

This will be my last comment for awhile, but I read it on here, the 4 days. It was discussed long before I joined this thread, and since it wasn't deleted, it was assumed it wasn't rumor, as rumor isn't allowed. Lesson learned.

 

[SaintGirl]

His phone does not place him somewhere if he left it at home and went out.
what will the phone prove?
she called him he called her she text him he didn't text her.

Id just like to know where he was and who saw him.

Eileen I think if he was anywhere close on LEs radar we would have heard something to that affect. Just a little, tiny something. There were at least 20 investigators from multiple counties (including mine) on foot searching within a few miles of EAs home last week. I think we all know enough about investigations that where there is smoke there is usually fire. MOO, IMO

I appreciate the WS way of looking at all angles, and I understand that's been of huge benefit in other cases. But at this point, with what we know, I think it's all pointing one direction. You might see it otherwise, which I respect, just wanted to put it out there. MOO IMO

 

[JMOM]

:goodpost:

Then he shouldn't have interfered and slowed the investigation with lies from the beginning. He's lost his opportunity to be trusted, IMO

 

[JMOM]

Exactly and we don't know if either was done.

Trying to contact someone and actually reaching/communicating with that someone are two different things, imo.

I was unaware that HF contacted EA in those 4 days (not "tried" to, but actually reached him and had communication with him.) Again, two different things. (imo)

 

[Eileen730]

Eileen I think if he was anywhere close on LEs radar we would have heard something to that affect. Just a little, tiny something. There were at least 20 investigators from multiple counties (including mine) on foot searching within a few miles of EAs home last week. I think we all know enough about investigations that where there is smoke there is usually fire. MOO, IMO

I appreciate the WS way of looking at all angles, and I understand that's been of huge benefit in other cases. But at this point, with what we know, I think it's all pointing one direction. You might see it otherwise, which I respect, just wanted to put it out there. MOO IMO

I totally agree EA seems to be the main POI.
Everything points to and at him.

I just have a few things nagging at me about all this is all.
and its sad I cant ask any questions about it.

 

[Helen_Ready]

Ok where is your evidence or facts supporting that Hunter had anything to do with this?

JMom, you are handling things really well this morning. Yesterday we made alot of progress trying to figure things out. I remember you gave us some direction in the morning of things we should talk about that seemed to get the discussions headed in a more positive direction. Today is a different group. Mammerced has mentioned that if you want to disagree and or debate things st least throw out another theory. Saying you disagree is one thing. At least try to support what you are saying with another theory. I believe frisson did that with his car theory.

 

[Helen_Ready]

Then he shouldn't have interfered and slowed the investigation with lies from the beginning. He's lost his opportunity to be trusted, IMO

Ditto....

 

[Helen_Ready]

I totally agree EA seems to be the main POI.
Everything points to and at him.

I just have a few things nagging at me about all this is all.
and its sad I cant ask any questions about it.

State your theory then.

 

[wendiyking]

I never understand why the VIs are questioned. MY OPINION is that the question isn't whether EA did this or not, but the questions I have are : !Why? Did he act alone? WHERE IS SHE? I've never doubted the VIs and appreciate every moment and every word that they have contributed. Personally, I wouldn't blame them for going away (but glad that hasn't happened yet).... but they are very CLOSE to this case. What has been shared through MSM is enough for me to be convinced but they just add to that belief. I'm sure it is hard emotionally on them like none of us could imagine. So frankly, if I was so close to this, so emotionally involved, I may respond the way Carlton did. [modsnip] What I saw was someone who was trying to help us help them. If someone I knew and loved was hurt and I had enough evidence to think it was a specific person, I think I too would take it pretty personal. So.... That all being said... Where is she? Where would this person likely take her. I know I see more and more wooded areas every time I drive. Is there any reason to believe that he didn't go north up 75? I hope not, because that is where there is just so many options. I wish there was a break for this family and all those who love her.

I do know what the damage looks like.

 

[SaintGirl]

I totally agree EA seems to be the main POI.
Everything points to and at him.

I just have a few things nagging at me about all this is all.
and its sad I cant ask any questions about it.

Anyone can ask questions. But with questions come other poster's thoughts since we don't have a lot of answers right now. You seem to have been on here a while, your thoughts and input is appreciated.

 

[Helen_Ready]

Trying to contact someone and actually reaching/communicating with that someone are two different things, imo.

I was unaware that HF contacted EA in those 4 days (not "tried" to, but actually reached him and had communication with him.) Again, two different things. (imo)

Great point...we don't know ...I bet Le knows if HF tried

 

[frisson]

JMom, you are handling things really well this morning. Yesterday we made alot of progress trying to figure things out. I remember you gave us some direction in the morning of things we should talk about that seemed to get the discussions headed in a more positive direction. Today is a different group. Mammerced has mentioned that if you want to disagree and or debate things st least throw out another theory. Saying you disagree is one thing. At least try to support what you are saying with another theory. I believe frisson did that with his car theory.

I agree with you, Helen_Ready, that things went smoothly yesterday and a lot of progress was made. AGREED!

However, I'm not sure about this being a different group today. I know I was here yesterday and 17 previous threads worth and I see many of the same names, which is great. It means many are following the case and keeping Christina's name in the forefront.

I don't understand what you mean by my "car theory." I mentioned that people can sustain injuries in vehicles from sideswipes (as opposed to full-on direct impacts.)

Additionally, to address your point, I think people can disagree but have to leave it at that b/c other names are not allowed.

Also, I'm a she. It's an honest mistake since my screen name sounds androgynous, generic, French. No biggie!

 

[wendiyking]

I too suspected him at first... seems like a long time. But b/c his family (and those searching) know what the calls and text were.... and because they know more than we do, I dismissed that belief a long time ago. For all we know, he could have been out with someone else... maybe there is proof of that on the phone or people that saw him. We don't know but they know more... Maybe during the last calls she said they were over, so he assumed she wasn't coming back. Like I said, we don't know. What we do know, and what has been in the warrant is so much against EA that I still don't get why he hasn't been named a POI. I know that it sucks that I had to tell my almost 20 year old to be careful going into Plano late Saturday night to a hockey game with a guy she knew in high school. How sad is that? I know you know him.... but so did Christina

My point is there is a double standard here. We are excusing the behavior of one, while even possible accusing the other of lying. We don't know what she told HF, just like we don't know what he told his parents. What we do know is she was gone from her home from 4 days no call and text and he was for 3 extra days. I find it very hypocritical to excuse one behavior and not the other. But that is me. Know, you know more than we do, so I understand why you may feel differently.

 

[Helen_Ready]

I totally agree EA seems to be the main POI.
Everything points to and at him.

I just have a few things nagging at me about all this is all.
and its sad I cant ask any questions about it.

Please keep asking. What is nagging at you?
Do you have an idea of another angle we or Le might have missed. [emoji4]