GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #30 *Arrest*

[Le Singe]

"We're going to continue following up on those tips, and the primary investigators are going to continue on with their indepth investigation speaking to the people that were originally there," Tilley said. "[We're] going beyond the recent, going back a little further. Maybe someone had a beef with her awhile back. ... There's still a lot of area to cover. We have not, by any stretch of the imagination, reached a dead end."

http://starlocalmedia.com/planocour...7b6-3479-11e4-a198-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=jqm

OT for some reason i find it funny Tilley uses the phrase "had beef"

 

[Le Singe]

Iirc HF spent a week in jail for a traffic violation around the same time EA spent a week in jail for stealing a phone from his work place. Sort of hard to reconcile one "arrest" without wondering about the other one imo.

dates don't line up.

 

[Lrc143]

BBM
Most Excellent,
I am thinking there are several options. Yes there is very much indeed enough circumstantial evidence to get that warrant for the arrest.
I still hope & pray that she will be found and a full confession from the person(s) that did and assisted in this. along with proper judgement.

Sorry I am so behind but I wanted to ask about the statement in bold above: Do you mean to stay there is enough circumstantial evidence to arrest someone else other than EA? If so, what and who? I can't imagine that because CM called ALP that night, that's evidence. Is this what you are referring to or something else? TIA

 

[Le Singe]

Do people go to jail for traffic violations? Or are we talking a stack of unpaid tickets? (sincere question) And yes, it is difficult to reconcile imo too.

he went to jail for (repeatedly i think) missing court dates.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

i think the point was that if he doesn't have ALPs number they probably aren't tight.

Whoever was talking about him being facebook friends said she should of been able to ask ea for the phone number since alp is on ea Fb. To me that sounded like ea should have his number.

whatever the intention or was trying to be implied was lost I guess. It's whatever.

 

[txyorkiemom]

they only have evidence they've made public on EA which only means he is the only one they had enough evidence to arrest. Not saying others are involved but just saying that just because we haven't heard about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

^^This is the post I originally quoted and responded about ^^

BBM
Most Excellent,
I am thinking there are several options. Yes there is very much indeed enough circumstantial evidence to get that warrant for the arrest.
I still hope & pray that she will be found and a full confession from the person(s) that did and assisted in this. along with proper judgement.

Sorry I am so behind but I wanted to ask about the statement in bold above: Do you mean to stay there is enough circumstantial evidence to arrest someone else other than EA? If so, what and who? I can't imagine that because CM called ALP that night, that's evidence. Is this what you are referring to or something else? TIA

I was only referencing EA's warrant for arrest in connection with the disappearance
JMO~ I am thinking there are several options more to look at deeper in connection.
I am not of the opinion that EA alone has the motive.nor was it a SA or AK at 3:58am
I will refrain from naming anyone else

 

[Lrc143]

For some reason I can't quote TYM above.

Ok thanks. I was confused since you said 'circumstantial' evidence. To me, what they have on EA includes a lot of physical evidence as well.

 

[hockeymom4]

For some reason I can't quote TYM above.

Ok thanks. I was confused since you said 'circumstantial' evidence. To me, what they have on EA includes a lot of physical evidence as well.

What is the lot of physical evidence they have?

 

[txyorkiemom]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...womans-dna-found-on-trunk-of-suspects-car.ece

A statement from Arochi’s attorney, Keith Gore, said the affidavit “appears based largely upon conjecture and speculation and leaves many questions unanswered.”
He said further investigation is warranted, and he’s encouraged that police are continuing to work on the case.
“We will continue investigating the allegations against Enrique, and we will also continue cooperating with the police,” he said.

 

[SaintGirl]

A VI implied at one point that the calls to Hunter's phone from EA's phone are how LE knew there was an issue with EA's phone and led to the investigation that revealed EA had stolen a phone from work, then wiped it and returned it.

With no further details, I've assumed that the first phone EA let them look at didn't have much on it and nothing from that night, but once HF let them have his phone they were able to prove EA had another phone in use that night.

EA thought he was sooooo clever...

(I don't think it was the first time he'd played that trick with the phones, though. But I think he wasn't worried about them connecting her to him through the phone since the specific phone he used had been wiped of data and wasn't in his possession when LE interviewed him.)

Good point. Question is....why did he steal the phone? That happened on Aug. 25. If whatever happened the early morning of Aug. 30 was not premeditated, why else would he need to steal a phone?

 

[suzyjackson]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...womans-dna-found-on-trunk-of-suspects-car.ece

A statement from Arochi’s attorney, Keith Gore, said the affidavit “appears based largely upon conjecture and speculation and leaves many questions unanswered.”
He said further investigation is warranted, and he’s encouraged that police are continuing to work on the case.
“We will continue investigating the allegations against Enrique, and we will also continue cooperating with the police,” he said.

But that's just what you'd expect a defence attorney to say IMO, are you doubting the DNA evidence presented by LE?

 

[suzyjackson]

Good point. Question is....why did he steal the phone? That happened on Aug. 25. If whatever happened the early morning of Aug. 30 was not premeditated, why else would he need to steal a phone?

Until we have some evidence to connect the stealing of the phone to Christina's disappearance my view is that they are separate incidents that happened at the the same time.

It would be really helpful though to know when EA knew that Christina would be in Plano on that night, whether he was actively invited along and if so when.

JMO

 

[SaintGirl]

But that's just what you'd expect a defence attorney to say IMO, are you doubting the DNA evidence presented by LE?

You said, in what I'm sure is a charming British accent, exactly what I was about to say in a much more crass Texas drawl....

 

[hockeymom4]

Good point. Question is....why did he steal the phone? That happened on Aug. 25. If whatever happened the early morning of Aug. 30 was not premeditated, why else would he need to steal a phone?

According to a coworker he had three phones and would switch them out. sounds like he had been taking the phones for sometime.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...e7a-661b-11e4-908d-8b1d2710f0e3.html?mode=jqm

 

[SaintGirl]

Until we have some evidence to connect the stealing of the phone to Christina's disappearance my view is that they are separate incidents that happened at the the same time.

It would be really helpful though to know when EA knew that Christina would be in Plano on that night, whether he was actively invited along and if so when.

JMO

I completely agree with that, don't think it was premeditation. Really questioning what other kind of criminal activity could he have been involved in that would require a stolen phone? Or maybe he was just a kleptomaniac with a panache for chalk (Best. Line. Ever. Thanks for that huge LOL yesterday GigglingToes!.)

 

[Lrc143]

Until we have some evidence to connect the stealing of the phone to Christina's disappearance my view is that they are separate incidents that happened at the the same time.

It would be really helpful though to know when EA knew that Christina would be in Plano on that night, whether he was actively invited along and if so when.

JMO

I thought because of the call CM (or whoever) placed to HF that night, they were able to find out that EA was using a stolen, then wiped clean phone??? If this is true, then I would say they are connected in some way... perhaps not a premeditated way, but in at least and after the fact covering up evidence sort of way.

 

[cluciano63]

Isn't having Christina's DNA physical evidence, since he denied her having been in the car? Or is even that circumstantial?

Not that it should matter; most cases are formed by circumstantial evidence.

 

[Lrc143]

What is the lot of physical evidence they have?

well... the DNA in/on his car. The DNA is physcial evidence. Maybe his lawyer can explain it way, maybe not. But that is not circumstantial... to me at least.

 

[txyorkiemom]

According to a coworker he had three phones and would switch them out. sounds like he had been taking the phones for sometime.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...e7a-661b-11e4-908d-8b1d2710f0e3.html?mode=jqm

Here is an explanation
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...f-man-linked-to-missing-woman-is-detailed.ece
And even though Arochi was arrested for taking a phone from the Sprint store where he worked, Quintanilla described it as a misunderstanding.

“He was a manager. He thought he had the authority to take the phone. His wasn’t working,” he said. “But they have a strict standard at Sprint, and they had to file charges. I think he was fired as a result of that.”

 

[SaintGirl]

According to a coworker he had three phones and would switch them out. sounds like he had been taking the phones for sometime.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...e7a-661b-11e4-908d-8b1d2710f0e3.html?mode=jqm

Thanks for that reminder. Why do you think he did this? What kind of activity would require it? Drug dealing, I guess? Just thinking out loud there's a lot we don't know about EA....the more we did could help with ideas in where to find Christina.