GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #31 *Arrest*

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  • #21
CM's DNA was IN HIS TRUNK. I'm sure the defense will try to excuse that away, but even without the massive lying, the phone wipes, the attempts to hide everything, the showing up to work late and beaten, the bite mark, the car wreck, and lots more evidence that we don't know yet, the fact he had her IN HIS TRUNK is imo going to be something he can't explain by simply trying to cast doubt. His "story" was all lies. He clearly is doing his best to keep the truth from being known.

Having her IN HIS TRUNK cannot be explained away as something innocent. She was not there willingly, or because it was somehow the best place for her welfare. There's your crime, and imo that puts him in prison eventually, no matter what else happens.

LE finds evidence. Defendants try to pick and question and cast doubt and deny, and then defendants get convicted because juries have common sense. We don't have to have the answers to the nitpicking on the evidence, because LE will have that for the trial. I have confidence that the members of his jury are not going to lose their minds and let this bad guy get away with what he did to CM.
 
  • #22
Right, but is it a crime to clean your car? That's what the defense will say.

Not only that - It is not his own residence-meaning there are others that reside there and actually own the homestead property.

Who is to say since the garbage was on the curb some of the various containers were not just placed there by someone unknown.
Do not laugh at me .....I have been known to throw crap in my neighbors 1/2 or 3/4 bags especially if I had already triple tied up my full garbage bags on the curb- (they never tie it up like I do)
They always laugh at me trying to throw crap!!
 
  • #23
CMs DNA was found on the trunk of EA's car. I have not seen where there is proof that CM was IN HIS TRUNK or if so, that EA was the one who put her there.
 
  • #24
"Bite mark" and "beaten" are also deadends ... in my opinion.
 
  • #25
My guess is they have on video Christina getting into his car alive and do not see her, EA or his car return to the garage again. Which they/it probably didn't. Plano PD is not the Keystone Cop. ;)

I did not mean anything derogatory towards PPD, I am super impressed with them. I just meant 3 entire months going by seems like a long time to start wondering if she's alive. Hope I'm making sense, watching football all day when I'm not looking at this screen. O/T, I love Green Bay but do any of you guys think Bryant was robbed of that pass?
 
  • #26
My guess is they have on video Christina getting into his car alive and do not see her, EA or his car return to the garage again. Which they/it probably didn't. Plano PD is not the Keystone Cop. ;)

Also, how could a cadaver dog hit on a spot in the garage if she left there alive? Sorry if I'm dredging up old stuff. I swear I've only had half of a Mich Ultra!
 
  • #27
While it isn't going to be known probably until trial...LE would certainly test the car, garage, and his clothes (shoes etc) for those particular products to tie them into cleaning his car and DNA/fingerprints on them as they were found in the trash since they were specific about them in the SW.
Yes that is one reason for sure Mr Gore is going to aggressively and repeatedly 1st Get the bond reduction,2nd motion to preserve evidence and re-test and bring in the defense teams own experts as well.
That is his job - to be aggressive and an advocate. ( I would so suck as defense atty )
 
  • #28
CM's DNA was IN HIS TRUNK. I'm sure the defense will try to excuse that away, but even without the massive lying, the phone wipes, the attempts to hide everything, the showing up to work late and beaten, the bite mark, the car wreck, and lots more evidence that we don't know yet, the fact he had her IN HIS TRUNK is imo going to be something he can't explain by simply trying to cast doubt. His "story" was all lies. He clearly is doing his best to keep the truth from being known.

Having her IN HIS TRUNK cannot be explained away as something innocent. She was not there willingly, or because it was somehow the best place for her welfare. There's your crime, and imo that puts him in prison eventually, no matter what else happens.

LE finds evidence. Defendants try to pick and question and cast doubt and deny, and then defendants get convicted because juries have common sense. We don't have to have the answers to the nitpicking on the evidence, because LE will have that for the trial. I have confidence that the members of his jury are not going to lose their minds and let this bad guy get away with what he did to CM.

I hope you are right; I hope a TX jury will have more guts than the ones in the Casey Anthony trial.
 
  • #29
I did not mean anything derogatory towards PPD, I am super impressed with them. I just meant 3 entire months going by seems like a long time to start wondering if she's alive. Hope I'm making sense, watching football all day when I'm not looking at this screen. O/T, I love Green Bay but do any of you guys think Bryant was robbed of that pass?

And I didn't mean to imply you were being derogatory, my apology if it came across that way.

And yes....he was robbed. But The Cowboys had a call go their way last week, so as frustrating as it is, bad calls always seem to even themselves out. Its hard not to like Green Bay, hope they beat the Saehawks. (Sorry Aud)
 
  • #30
Because the prosecution is not going to show their hand. The warrant included just enough information to get the arrest and charge. They have A LOT MORE that we aren't privy to and most likely won't be until trial.

I agree but sometimes that's all they have.
Guess we have to wait and see.
 
  • #31
I did not mean anything derogatory towards PPD, I am super impressed with them. I just meant 3 entire months going by seems like a long time to start wondering if she's alive. Hope I'm making sense, watching football all day when I'm not looking at this screen. O/T, I love Green Bay but do any of you guys think Bryant was robbed of that pass?

O/T He was absolutely robbed. I'm still choking on my bitttercakes!
 
  • #32
While it isn't going to be known probably until trial...LE would certainly test the car, garage, and his clothes (shoes etc) for those particular products to tie them into cleaning his car and DNA/fingerprints on them as they were found in the trash since they were specific about them in the SW.

But what if his mother bought those cleaning products and used them to clean their house?
 
  • #33
Also, how could a cadaver dog hit on a spot in the garage if she left there alive? Sorry if I'm dredging up old stuff. I swear I've only had half of a Mich Ultra!

Here is what it said :
During Friday’s search, the K-9 team “hit” a scent indicating the presence of human bodily fluids on a concrete pillar inside the garage where Morris was last seen.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/cadaver-dogs-used-in-search-for-christina-morris-hit-a-scent/
 
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I am missing a few things.
I have been looking over the MSM and Affidavits.
Where & When did he shop vac at?
Where and When did he use the cleaning products on specifically to his car?
I see the items of empty containers found in the garbage collections.
I can see how this will be defended.
Sorry guys..but unless there is more significant proof that he purchased all those products for his sole use -for only the intent to hide,conceal and destroy evidence in the car..it will not fly in a trial. JMO~
I feel this is not going to be usable.
Even though we would want it to be a justification ..it is not IMO.
A lying 🤬🤬🤬 - He is proven to be.
but it is not enough for a conviction.

Nope, not enough for a conviction.
BUT that is assuming that we know everything. I don't think the prosecution would publish their entire case to the public &/or defense at the time of EA arrest in those warrants we've read.

I would HOPE & I'll say I believe that they might have had undercover surveillance on this guy since early on. If not physically watching him purchase these items, they can review financial records &/or retrieve video from stores (like they did from Kroger). But if they watched (and recorded) him using these products to wash/scrub the car interior I don't think there's going to be any denying that it was him. I know, there is nothing that states in the warrants that this assumption took place, but there also isn't anything that states that it didn't take place....so each of these theories could have occurred, which one who knows?

Maybe they did put everything in those warrants, they'd be complete idiots and worthless if that's the case. I'm hoping they're more experienced than that.
 
  • #36
Here is what it said :
During Friday’s search, the K-9 team “hit” a scent indicating the presence of human bodily fluids on a concrete pillar inside the garage where Morris was last seen.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/cadaver-dogs-used-in-search-for-christina-morris-hit-a-scent/

I read "cadaver dog" - maybe that was just the way it was worded on cat's timeline. At any rate, I think they got in a fight at first, and he could have bloodied her nose/face...then he won when he got her in a chokehold. If that did happen in that short walk inside the garage, I'm thinking (yall bear with me) that he choked her out, panicked and put her in his trunk. Wouldn't she lose body fluids possibly after that? I don't know what happens to the body when you are choked or strangled. I do know what happens when one is hanged, however, and I'm just guessing it's similar. It could smell like a bathroom in his trunk (and/or in the garage area). I know I'm reaching, I just don't think she went somewhere with him. Why would she?
 
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Right, but is it a crime to clean your car? That's what the defense will say.

yes, this is going to be a problem because everyone washes the interior of their car at some point. Especially since he seemed to enjoy working on his car (changing his tires) why not wash it often like most 24yr olds who have nice sports cars......
 
  • #39
Right, but is it a crime to clean your car? That's what the defense will say.
Good point. However, is it something EA did on a regular basis to this extent? If his DNA/prints are on those cleaning supplies instead of say his mom (or if there was a maid perhaps her DNA/prints)...he has to explain away his sudden urge to deep clean.

It is quite possible tearing the car apart to look for additional DNA from Christina could show more and find hidden DNA which would be impossible to clean. It could also prove the surface cleaning was most likely done to evade arrest and scrutiny in her disappearance.
 
  • #40
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lano-30-August-2014-7&p=11013139#post11013139

As far as I can tell, the assault incident on Scruggs Way took place on August 31 at 2:32 a.m.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lano-30-August-2014-6&p=10998385#post10998385

In the above link the date given for a disturbance on Scruggs Way is August 30 at 2:19 a.m. :eek:
Also the missing person times, 9-1-14 at 11:56 p.m., and 9-2-14 at 11:17 p.m.

I don't see a link to the actual police log within the posts.

Posting this now so we can try to figure out if relevant. These coincidences were sleuthed and discussed back in September.

corrected times to p.m.
 
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