GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #31 *Arrest*

[stwpoke92]

I read "cadaver dog" - maybe that was just the way it was worded on cat's timeline. At any rate, I think they got in a fight at first, and he could have bloodied her nose/face...then he won when he got her in a chokehold. If that did happen in that short walk inside the garage, I'm thinking (yall bear with me) that he choked her out, panicked and put her in his trunk. Wouldn't she lose body fluids possibly after that? I don't know what happens to the body when you are choked or strangled. I do know what happens when one is hanged, however, and I'm just guessing it's similar. It could smell like a bathroom in his trunk (and/or in the garage area). I know I'm reaching, I just don't think she went somewhere with him. Why would she?

BBM...Some sort of transaction?

 

[SteveS]

CMs DNA was found on the trunk of EA's car. I have not seen where there is proof that CM was IN HIS TRUNK or if so, that EA was the one who put her there.

The sworn affidavit says "from the interior of EGA's trunk." If her DNA was in his trunk (and it was), she was in there.

I'm really interested in figuring out what EA did with CM, and finding her.

I know the defense will try to find ways to nitpick that clear and damning evidence, but I'm confident that LE will have the ability to answer the nitpicking that the defense will try.

 

[Happyshoes]

Nope, not enough for a conviction.
BUT that is assuming that we know everything. I don't think the prosecution would publish their entire case to the public &/or defense at the time of EA arrest in those warrants we've read.

I would HOPE & I'll say I believe that they might have had undercover surveillance on this guy since early on. If not physically watching him purchase these items, they can review financial records &/or retrieve video from stores (like they did from Kroger). But if they watched (and recorded) him using these products to wash/scrub the car interior I don't think there's going to be any denying that it was him. I know, there is nothing that states in the warrants that this assumption took place, but there also isn't anything that states that it didn't take place....so each of these theories could have occurred, which one who knows?

Maybe they did put everything in those warrants, they'd be complete idiots and worthless if that's the case. I'm hoping they're more experienced than that.

I am thinking they watched him, too - if only because she was last seen with him. I hope and think they do have video/receipts, etc. of him purchasing all that stuff. It's not enough for a conviction, I agree - but when you add all the other things to it, especially those HUGE lies, his co-workers statements, the girls at the apartment discussing his creepiness that night, that note, plus DNA (thank God for that), it is hard to imagine anybody else had a hand in this TO ME. I agree that "beaten" and "bite mark" may not come into play, but didn't the co-workers observe him using the shop vac at work? I'll bet they took the filter out of that, too. There has to be more than fluids, I'm hoping hairs, fibers, etc.

 

[truetexan]

Does anyone have EA's Car info handy. Its a 2010 Chevy Camaro as stated on page 3 of search warrant but does anyone know if its a LS, 1LT, 2LT, 1SS, 2SS, RS...?
Search warrant https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380-s20141213-1enrique-dna-return.pdf

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Nope, not enough for a conviction.
BUT that is assuming that we know everything. I don't think the prosecution would publish their entire case to the public &/or defense at the time of EA arrest in those warrants we've read.

I would HOPE & I'll say I believe that they might have had undercover surveillance on this guy since early on. If not physically watching him purchase these items, they can review financial records &/or retrieve video from stores (like they did from Kroger). But if they watched (and recorded) him using these products to wash/scrub the car interior I don't think there's going to be any denying that it was him. I know, there is nothing that states in the warrants that this assumption took place, but there also isn't anything that states that it didn't take place....so each of these theories could have occurred, which one who knows?

Maybe they did put everything in those warrants, they'd be complete idiots and worthless if that's the case. I'm hoping they're more experienced than that.

I totally agree.

 

[Eileen730]

Good point. However, is it something EA did on a regular basis to this extent? If his DNA/prints are on those cleaning supplies instead of say his mom (or if there was a maid perhaps her DNA/prints)...he has to explain away his sudden urge to deep clean.

It is quite possible tearing the car apart to look for additional DNA from Christina could show more and find hidden DNA which would be impossible to clean. It could also prove the surface cleaning was most likely done to evade arrest and scrutiny in her disappearance.

My kids use all our cleaning supplies to clean their cars.

 

[BaeMomma]

IMO, unless they tested for DNA there, it could anyone. It IS a public garage afterall.

Wonder if they did swab there? That's killing me, I am so frustrated because they don't seem to be working hard enough but then again, maybe they are. We never guessed they had already discovered what they did before we read those warrants, it was a kick in the face (in a good way lol). But grrr, so frustrating not knowing.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I read "cadaver dog" - maybe that was just the way it was worded on cat's timeline. At any rate, I think they got in a fight at first, and he could have bloodied her nose/face...then he won when he got her in a chokehold. If that did happen in that short walk inside the garage, I'm thinking (yall bear with me) that he choked her out, panicked and put her in his trunk. Wouldn't she lose body fluids possibly after that? I don't know what happens to the body when you are choked or strangled. I do know what happens when one is hanged, however, and I'm just guessing it's similar. It could smell like a bathroom in his trunk (and/or in the garage area). I know I'm reaching, I just don't think she went somewhere with him. Why would she?

I can't see all that happening in the garage though I can see it happening later. I feel in my gut she went with him willingly. In my theory, she went with him willingly for the purpose of going back to the apartment to find her keys. (Sorry peeps who hate key talk.)

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Wonder if they did swab there? That's killing me, I am so frustrated because they don't seem to be working hard enough but then again, maybe they are. We never guessed they had already discovered what they did before we read those warrants, it was a kick in the face (in a good way lol). But grrr, so frustrating not knowing.

It just seems it would be a waste of time because of so much DNA possible. Lots of guys here dip, so I could see spit on there. Maybe even pee.

 

[Coldpizza]

O/T He was absolutely robbed. I'm still choking on my bitttercakes!

Well it was a game to watch no doubt!

Not sure that some of you know this but we have many NFL and sports fans on WS. We have a discussion thread just for that.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?251256-NFL-football-*2014*

 

[BaeMomma]

Does anyone have EA's Car info handy. Its a 2010 Chevy Camaro as stated on page 3 of search warrant but does anyone know if its a LS, 1LT, 2LT, 1SS, 2SS, RS...?
Search warrant https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380-s20141213-1enrique-dna-return.pdf

The 9/2014 warrant (pg 3 last para) states 2010 Chevrolet Camero SS

 

[darring21]

Her DNA in his trunk, his repeated lies, evidence of unusual cleaning of his car, late for work, bite marks, cell tower pings, etc. It is all decent circumstantial evidence. Even if there isn't additional evidence, that could be worked into a conviction. However, given that LE was dressing as garbage men to pick up his trash, I'm guessing they have additional surveillance and evidence.

 

[Eileen730]

The sworn affidavit says "from the interior of EGA's trunk." If her DNA was in his trunk (and it was), she was in there.

I'm really interested in figuring out what EA did with CM, and finding her.

I know the defense will try to find ways to nitpick that clear and damning evidence, but I'm confident that LE will have the ability to answer the nitpicking that the defense will try.

This was on last post 997 by txyorkimom!
Direct from Affidavit: p8
Affiant reviewed the Case Report. The report stated a DNA profile
was obtained from Bode sample which was taken from Agency Sample
#668923 labeled as "swab from edge of trunk opening." The Bode Technology report provided
the STR DNA profile for this sample.

Affiant and Detective Spillman provided the Bode Technology Case Report to Plano Police
Department Manager Dr. R. Staub. Dr. Staub is a certified lab director for human
identification using DNA, holds a in Genetics, and has extensive forensic DNA experience
to include having been the Senior Manager and Laboratory Director for Orchid Cellmark forensic
lab in Dallas, Texas prior to being hired by the Plano Police Department. Dr. Staub obtained the
complete lab case file from Bode Technology related to this case. Dr. Staub evaluated the
Bode Technology lab case file. Dr. Staub told Affiant he found that Bode Technology's results
from the above mentioned swab indicated there was a significant amount of DNA present which
was produced from a single source female profile. Dr. Staub compared the DNA profile Bode
Technology developed from the swab taken from the interior trunk opening of Enrique Gutierrez
Arochi?s vehicle and the DNA profile developed for Christina Morris from the UNT lab. Dr. Staub
found the DNA profile developed from the trunk swab to be a perfect match to the DNA profile of
Christina Morris devel0ped by UNT. Dr. Staub told Affiant that based on his evaluation of the
data provided by the Bode Technology Case Report that the chance of another person having
this DNA profile is approximately 1 in 69.08 quadrillion Caucasians. Dr. Staub also told Affiant
that based on his experience and the amount of DNA that was present on the swab taken from
interior of Enrique Gutierrez Arochi's trunk, he does not believe the DNA source to have merely
been touch DNA, but more likely that the DNA source was a bodily fluid such as blood or saliva.

 

[Latestforever]

Not only that - It is not his own residence-meaning there are others that reside there and actually own the homestead property.

Who is to say since the garbage was on the curb some of the various containers were not just placed there by someone unknown.
Do not laugh at me .....I have been known to throw crap in my neighbors 1/2 or 3/4 bags especially if I had already triple tied up my full garbage bags on the curb- (they never tie it up like I do)
They always laugh at me trying to throw crap!!

I'm sorry but I am laughing because of the image in my head- I invision my neighbor throwing her trash into mine and me catching her and I'm thinking, well okay if you can find room to cram in there. LOL
On a more serious note, the thought has crossed my mind: is the trash receptacle kept in the garage until just before trash removal company comes, or is it outside where a person with not so great intentions could put "things/cleaners/list" in it to make EA seem more guilty? The 2 trash pulls were later, is why I say that. Hopefully there are some fingerprints to dispute this. I have been thinking this will be defense attorney argument on that issue. MOO

 

[Happyshoes]

BBM...Some sort of transaction?

I was trying to think what I would do, I guess - and after such a long night, I think she was wanting to go home - why go have a smoke with Creepy? Unless of course, it was a bigger "deal" than that..?? She was trying to get HF to quit, so hope she wasn't doing him any favors. And if she was, that could be why he said "if he'd been there, this wouldn't have happened"? Maybe he knew he should have protected her. Sure was a lot going on that night with HF being watched, running into ALP, they must have had words or something, sooooo many texts were flying around. So hard to comprehend why all the rage, ahhhhh!

 

[Happyshoes]

The sworn affidavit says "from the interior of EGA's trunk." If her DNA was in his trunk (and it was), she was in there.

I'm really interested in figuring out what EA did with CM, and finding her.

I know the defense will try to find ways to nitpick that clear and damning evidence, but I'm confident that LE will have the ability to answer the nitpicking that the defense will try.

Yes to this, and you forgot to put it in caps - IN THE TRUNK, lol. I truly hope they find her soon and put an end to this so the guilty party can be charged correctly without question.

 

[Happyshoes]

This was on last post 997 by txyorkimom!
Direct from Affidavit: p8
Affiant reviewed the Case Report. The report stated a DNA profile
was obtained from Bode sample which was taken from Agency Sample
#668923 labeled as "swab from edge of trunk opening." The Bode Technology report provided
the STR DNA profile for this sample.

Affiant and Detective Spillman provided the Bode Technology Case Report to Plano Police
Department Manager Dr. R. Staub. Dr. Staub is a certified lab director for human
identification using DNA, holds a in Genetics, and has extensive forensic DNA experience
to include having been the Senior Manager and Laboratory Director for Orchid Cellmark forensic
lab in Dallas, Texas prior to being hired by the Plano Police Department. Dr. Staub obtained the
complete lab case file from Bode Technology related to this case. Dr. Staub evaluated the
Bode Technology lab case file. Dr. Staub told Affiant he found that Bode Technology's results
from the above mentioned swab indicated there was a significant amount of DNA present which
was produced from a single source female profile. Dr. Staub compared the DNA profile Bode
Technology developed from the swab taken from the interior trunk opening of Enrique Gutierrez
Arochi?s vehicle and the DNA profile developed for Christina Morris from the UNT lab. Dr. Staub
found the DNA profile developed from the trunk swab to be a perfect match to the DNA profile of
Christina Morris devel0ped by UNT. Dr. Staub told Affiant that based on his evaluation of the
data provided by the Bode Technology Case Report that the chance of another person having
this DNA profile is approximately 1 in 69.08 quadrillion Caucasians. Dr. Staub also told Affiant
that based on his experience and the amount of DNA that was present on the swab taken from
interior of Enrique Gutierrez Arochi's trunk, he does not believe the DNA source to have merely
been touch DNA, but more likely that the DNA source was a bodily fluid such as blood or saliva.

If I were on the jury, that would be enough for me. And if I were on the Casey Anthony jury, she'd be on death row.

 

[SteveS]

Eilenn, thank you for all that, and the affidavit itself p8 adds it was "from interior of EGA's trunk." Other than the fact I didn't type out the name of the bad guy, that's an exact quote, and taken together it clearly puts CM's DNA IN HIS TRUNK.

If her DNA was in there (and it was), she was in there. That's not a place someone rides willingly, nor is it a place that she was placed for her welfare.

 

[Eileen730]

Yes to this, and you forgot to put it in caps - IN THE TRUNK, lol. I truly hope they find her soon and put an end to this so the guilty party can be charged correctly without question.

LOL I just spit my soda all over the keyboard.
thanks for the funny!

 

[Eileen730]

Eilenn, thank you for all that, but the affidavit itself p8 says it was "from interior of EGA's trunk." Other than the fact I didn't type out the name of the bad guy, that's an exact quote, and it clearly puts CM's DNA IN HIS TRUNK. If her DNA was in there (and it was), she was in there.

LOL INterior trunk OPENING!