GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #31 *Arrest*

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  • #61
what if he opened the trunk she put some stuff in the trunk and went to close it and closed it on her finger or hand?
Her dna would be there but she would not have been in the trunk!
 
  • #62
All IM saying is the way they have this worded the dna was on the the trunk opening not the inside of the trunk itself.
Its on the hatch the part that opens and closes.
 
  • #63
what if he opened the trunk she put some stuff in the trunk and went to close it and closed it on her finger or hand?
Her dna would be there but she would not have been in the trunk!

Right, but combine DNA on the lip of the trunk or wherever it was, with the fact that he was the last person known with her, her cell phone pings with his, he cleaned his car for three weeks, and doesn't know how to tell the truth and you have a strong narrative for the prosecution. Is that enough for a conviction? Maybe. Could a strong defense take this apart? Probably. I'm sure there will be more, though.
 
  • #64
My kids use all our cleaning supplies to clean their cars.

Not being snarky, but the first thing that came to my mind was - but do they lie all the time, get in fights, pi** off their co-workers, clean like mad men, use gallons at a time, purchase it themselves (which is just something I personally think he did and hope they have proof of), etc. All MOO.
 
  • #65
IMO, unless they tested for DNA there, it could anyone. It IS a public garage afterall.

This is exactly what the defense attorney will say, IMO.


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  • #66
LOL INterior trunk OPENING!

To me, there is no reason for her DNA to be anywhere NEAR HIS TRUNK, haha. Sorry, couldn't help myself. I don't think she sneezed and they are holding him for that. I always get this anxious on Sunday nights, hoping I will read something concrete every Monday. He just can't say he walked to his car and she walked to hers if there's even a tiny spot of DNA on/in/near his trunk. So frustrating, at least we all agree on that. And I appreciate all the different angles, Eileen - definitely makes us think. The "what if's" in this case are plentiful because so much was going on - I'm just not getting the HF/ALP angle except that it upset her. I just think that's a side story.
 
  • #67
Right, but combine DNA on the lip of the trunk or wherever it was, with the fact that he was the last person known with her, her cell phone pings with his, he cleaned his car for three weeks, and doesn't know how to tell the truth and you have a strong narrative for the prosecution. Is that enough for a conviction? Maybe. Could a strong defense take this apart? Probably. I'm sure there will be more, though.

Great post! Plus we don't know whose DNA was on the seat belt and mats that PPD sent off for testing - if that was Christina's, I could then see her going willingly with him. I can't imagine why, though. Easy for me to say, I know, especially at this stage when we know all the creepy factors.
 
  • #68
All IM saying is the way they have this worded the dna was on the the trunk opening not the inside of the trunk itself.
Its on the hatch the part that opens and closes.

If you take each piece of evidence individually, they can be reasonably explained away. All of the evidence together cannot.
 
  • #69
Right, but combine DNA on the lip of the trunk or wherever it was, with the fact that he was the last person known with her, her cell phone pings with his, he cleaned his car for three weeks, and doesn't know how to tell the truth and you have a strong narrative for the prosecution. Is that enough for a conviction? Maybe. Could a strong defense take this apart? Probably. I'm sure there will be more, though.

Unless they have proof he purchased and used those cleaning supplies, that can be explained away being that he lived with other people, specifically a mon who likely cleans.

This is exactly what the defense attorney will say, IMO.


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And that's my point. I don't dispute EA is likely guilty of this crime, but to put hope in this much circumstantial evidence is cause for a let down. The defense is going to come out swinging and will likely discredit a lot of the circumstantial evidence. It is the prosecution's responsibiliy to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes common sense would put it all together, but I can't help but think of all those who have gotten off, ie: OJ, Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman, etc...
 
  • #70
This was on last post 997 by txyorkimom!
Direct from Affidavit: p8
Affiant reviewed the Case Report. The report stated a DNA profile
was obtained from Bode sample which was taken from Agency Sample
#668923 labeled as "swab from edge of trunk opening." The Bode Technology report provided
the STR DNA profile for this sample.

Affiant and Detective Spillman provided the Bode Technology Case Report to Plano Police
Department Manager Dr. R. Staub. Dr. Staub is a certified lab director for human
identification using DNA, holds a in Genetics, and has extensive forensic DNA experience
to include having been the Senior Manager and Laboratory Director for Orchid Cellmark forensic
lab in Dallas, Texas prior to being hired by the Plano Police Department. Dr. Staub obtained the
complete lab case file from Bode Technology related to this case. Dr. Staub evaluated the
Bode Technology lab case file. Dr. Staub told Affiant he found that Bode Technology's results
from the above mentioned swab indicated there was a significant amount of DNA present which
was produced from a single source female profile. Dr. Staub compared the DNA profile Bode
Technology developed from the swab taken from the interior trunk opening of Enrique Gutierrez
Arochi?s vehicle and the DNA profile developed for Christina Morris from the UNT lab. Dr. Staub
found the DNA profile developed from the trunk swab to be a perfect match to the DNA profile of
Christina Morris devel0ped by UNT. Dr. Staub told Affiant that based on his evaluation of the
data provided by the Bode Technology Case Report that the chance of another person having
this DNA profile is approximately 1 in 69.08 quadrillion Caucasians. Dr. Staub also told Affiant
that based on his experience and the amount of DNA that was present on the swab taken from
interior of Enrique Gutierrez Arochi's trunk, he does not believe the DNA source to have merely
been touch DNA, but more likely that the DNA source was a bodily fluid such as blood or saliva.

Per the affidavit shown above:
please tell me what swab # 668923 is specifically identified as -in relation to forensic testing on the Arochi car is.
Is there a swab identified for the car marked #668924? #668925?
 
  • #71
what if he opened the trunk she put some stuff in the trunk and went to close it and closed it on her finger or hand?
Her dna would be there but she would not have been in the trunk!

How could that be possible? EA, you didn't even park in the same garage, and you didn't even see where she went, remember?
 
  • #72
To me, there is no reason for her DNA to be anywhere NEAR HIS TRUNK, haha. Sorry, couldn't help myself. I don't think she sneezed and they are holding him for that. I always get this anxious on Sunday nights, hoping I will read something concrete every Monday. He just can't say he walked to his car and she walked to hers if there's even a tiny spot of DNA on/in/near his trunk. So frustrating, at least we all agree on that. And I appreciate all the different angles, Eileen - definitely makes us think. The "what if's" in this case are plentiful because so much was going on - I'm just not getting the HF/ALP angle except that it upset her. I just think that's a side story.

I'm not so sure it's because so much is going on. I suspect it's because there are not enough released facts, so there is way too much "what if" wiggle room........Imagination gone wild.
 
  • #73
How could that be possible? EA, you didn't even park in the same garage, and you didn't even see where she went, remember?

I think it's safe to say EA is not reading here.
 
  • #74
How could that be possible? EA, you didn't even park in the same garage, and you didn't even see where she went, remember?

Now see this to me makes him appear guilty not the evidence.
He is putting distance between himself and Christina. This says more to me than the dna.


I want to hear what his lawyer has to say.
 
  • #75
All IM saying is the way they have this worded the dna was on the the trunk opening not the inside of the trunk itself.

Its on the hatch the part that opens and closes.

Do you have a link to the use of "hatch" or "lid"?

My copy of the affidavit uses the word "interior" multiple times, and the descriptive phrase "interior of EGA's trunk" along with the following: "CM's DNA was present in the interior trunk area of EGA's vehicle."

Her DNA was there, means she was there. EA put her IN HIS TRUNK.
 
  • #76
I'm not so sure it's because so much is going on. I suspect it's because there are not enough released facts, so there is way too much "what if" wiggle room........Imagination gone wild.

I meant going on "that night" between Christina, HF & ALP. And also with EA hitting on SB, then possibly trying to get with Christina. To me, that's a hectic night. Maybe not for young people, haha.
 
  • #77
Do you have a link to the use of "hatch" or "lid"?

My copy of the affidavit uses the word "interior" multiple times, and the descriptive phrase "interior of EGA's trunk" along with the following: "CM's DNA was present in the interior trunk area of EGA's vehicle."

Her DNA was there, means she was there. EA put her IN HIS TRUNK.


That's what I call it STEVE
the OPENING

I call it the trunk lid or hatch.
Sheesh!
 
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I think it's safe to say EA is not reading here.

Yes .. I do not think he is reading anything here,twitter,fb or any other type of messages I have seen directed toward him.
I do not even know if they can hear music or watch animal planet at the CC jail.
 
  • #80
Do you have a link to the use of "hatch" or "lid"?

My copy of the affidavit uses the word "interior" multiple times, and the descriptive phrase "interior of EGA's trunk" along with the following: "CM's DNA was present in the interior trunk area of EGA's vehicle."

Her DNA was there, means she was there. EA put her IN HIS TRUNK.

Mind your manners, young man. But I do agree with you - Interior is good enough for me, but Eileen is helping me think, as are others who comment on what the defense attorney will do. The conversation has been good all day, let's not try to stifle anyone. (I don't think I've ever used that word before!)
 
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