GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #31 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

Exactly.
the first sentence states where the swab was taken. And yes its the interior but its not Inside the trunk cavity as I understand it.

Except we have to remember we're not getting the total report covering all forensic tests and evidence.
The write-up was only to present 'probably cause', not to reveal all the evidence.
Which is why, imo, we can't figure out what LE's evidence is before the case is presented.
Can discovery be requested in Texas (like in Florida?).
If so, when someone pays for the documents if they're not sealed, we could review the whole report. Right?


Does anybody know why the posts I quoted in my prior post, posted again with this post? (I erased them.)

 

[zippixx]

"The DNA evidence and the details that surround that... if we were able to release that, you would understand it more," said Plano police spokesman David Tilley. "Unfortunately, we're unable to release that."

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...kidnapping-in-christina-morris-case/20353567/

 

[Momoffourboys]

But according to the affidavit, he was sexually frustrated from getting the stiff arm from SB. So either Christina missed that episode or it wasn't that big of a deal. MOO

Weren't we also told that many of the friends thought he was a creeper? Wouldn't CM feel the same?

 

[SteveS]

...in fact, EA was almost sincere in comparison, but this thing has snowballed with all his lies - so many, in fact he was cornered everywhere from the beginning.

I thought so too (that EA looked sincere) until I saw his interview life size, rather than on a small laptop online. And instead of looking sincere, he was reallllllllllllllllllllly antsy with clear body language that indicates deception - while he sits with his body and head still, the eyes were darting everywhere as he lied, especially when he said he didn't know where CM is or what happened to her. It is really obvious.

If you watch the interview online, zoom on him at those points, and it really jumps out at you. Gave me the creeps. Clear "tell" of deliberate deception.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

What location did EA turn back from to go toward SOL again? What is near the turnaround location?
Did he and Christina go to meet somebody to score?
Why did EA head back to the SOL area?

 

[SteveS]

But according to the affidavit, he was sexually frustrated from getting the stiff arm from SB. So either Christina missed that episode or it wasn't that big of a deal. MOO

CM could have been very aware of EA getting the sexual stiff-arm from SB, without having any awareness that he would then be looking for an alternative victim. It's easy to see after the fact, but in the moment his mindset may have been taken by CM as an interest in SB specifically, and not an interest in "sex from anyone he can get it from."

 

[Woe.be.gone]

"The DNA evidence and the details that surround that... if we were able to release that, you would understand it more," said Plano police spokesman David Tilley. "Unfortunately, we're unable to release that."

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...kidnapping-in-christina-morris-case/20353567/

Since LE uses a sex crime in the Affidavit, they must have picked up semen. Must be strong stuff!

Uh oh, also they picked up another unidentified male's DNA.

 

[Happyshoes]

Another thought about "hectic" when it comes to young people.
Why is it Christina could bring herself to text/call HF all morning long? We don't know if her log was filled will attempts earlier as well.
Back in my day, if he didn't call back, I pretended I didn't care. I know CM and HF lived together so what would be so urgent/why was CM so desperate to reach HF then?

The phone/text option tied to one's hip is foreign to me. I'm familiar with the custom though because there are young people in my life (who hardly want anything to do with me).
People are going to drive one another nuts by being all up someone else's arse all the time like they seem to be. IMO

Love this post! You are so right, to me it seemed like she was (as you say) up HF's arse, checking on him more than she was enjoying being with her friends. I think she knew he was out and about (esp since he did tell her he saw ALP and wanted to kick his arse-hehe, love that), so we know they talked or texted at some point and that issue is what upset her, at what time of the night we don't know. I do really, really think she wanted to go home. Who else stopped her from doing that but EA? I honestly think the girl's telling of his creepy ways helped lead to this as well as the excessive car cleaning, lying, bruised/abrasions, etc. And while I'm being so forthcoming and honest, I totally agree with the protesting the family did, they had to call him out. His videos will go against him.

 

[catpatrol]

The laboratory report doesn't note "inside" the trunk. Later in the affidavit, the Affiant added those details.
I've been wondering why.

We have yet to see the lab results but the labs only job is to run the tests that the sampler requests.
The sampler is the one who documents the location of the samples (very thoroughly....generally with a sketch, photograph, and written description. I also imagine they have a thorough QA/QC process)
The lab has no way of knowing anything about the location the samples came from, other than from the information provided by the sampler (aka affiant).
IMO

 

[LibbyinTexas]

I found that a very strange comment.
Since she was a little girl? What made her fear that?

I assume its all the stranger danger stuff that is taught. My little girl is always afraid someone will come in the house and steal her at night. Its just because of the news and other things she sees and hears. I dont think its a strange comment or odd....just a fact of our children's lives these days....lots and lots of abductions are publicized, kids pick up on it and eventually fear it.

 

[zippixx]

Exactly.
the first sentence states where the swab was taken. And yes its the interior but its not Inside the trunk cavity as I understand it.

Yeah, I guess it depends how you interpret the affidavit...

The DNA sample, labeled as “swab from edge of trunk opening,” indicated “there was a significant amount of DNA present, which was produced from a single-source female profile.” Plano PD CSI Manager Rick Staub compared the swab taken from the interior trunk opening to the DNA profile developed for Morris from a Dr. Pepper can found in her vehicle.
According to the affidavit, Staub found the DNA profile to be “a perfect match to the DNA profile of Christina Morris. … The chance of another person having this DNA profile is approximately 1 in 69 quadrillion Caucasians.” Based on his experience, Staub told Busby that the amount of DNA present on the swab from the interior of Arochi’s trunk is most likely a bodily fluid such as blood or saliva.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...cle_54ae76cc-87e2-11e4-b296-13824fa23769.html

OK.. let's compromise & say it is from the "interior edge" & a "significant amount"... How did it get there...? And I doubt it seeped in from the outside...

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo, maybe one of the reasons the other females are being so quiet is if Christina asked that they come along to walk her to her car and they all refused, convincing her to go with EA...that would make your average person feel pretty guilty, jmo.

 

[SteveS]

1 What location did EA turn back from to go toward SOL again? What is near the turnaround location?
Did he and Christina go to meet somebody to score?
2 Why did EA head back to the SOL area?

1 Somewhere N/E past the 121/Custer intersection.
...As to exactly where, we don't know. (LE may have better info on this.)
...It is my belief they went to "get something" and it was together (ie, with her as a passenger). Quick cup of coffee, so she could wake up for her drive to FW? Some drug, for the same purpose? Some drug, for a diff purpose? Just guesses.
2 My speculation is that he was taking her back to her car, after they went together to Place X. Both "where did they go" and "why did they come back" fit together easily with one not-unlikely explanation.

 

[BaeMomma]

I read "cadaver dog" - maybe that was just the way it was worded on cat's timeline. At any rate, I think they got in a fight at first, and he could have bloodied her nose/face...then he won when he got her in a chokehold. If that did happen in that short walk inside the garage, I'm thinking (yall bear with me) that he choked her out, panicked and put her in his trunk. Wouldn't she lose body fluids possibly after that? I don't know what happens to the body when you are choked or strangled. I do know what happens when one is hanged, however, and I'm just guessing it's similar. It could smell like a bathroom in his trunk (and/or in the garage area). I know I'm reaching, I just don't think she went somewhere with him. Why would she?

I did read about manual strangulation and you are right, these two have very similar outcomes. Vomit, saliva, urine and feces are all very common bodily fluids that occur after manual strangulations. He may not have been able to get all of it off (well we KNOW he didnt) in his initial cleaning bc it's liquid and can flow deep into those open spaces.

I too thought that's why he needed the Odo-Ban. His car was locked up in the Tx heat for a week while he was in the Wylie jail. 2 days after his release from jail, they found the big qty of Odo-Ban in his trash pull, among other things.

 

[SteveS]

Uh oh, also they picked up another unidentified male's DNA.

DNA of just one "unidentified male" was mentioned, right? And the affidavit being for the purpose of obtaining EA's DNA - I bet we know whose DNA they figure it is.

I'm assuming the obvious, until we hear otherwise.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

txyorkie,
Do you have a link to the incident calls made to Plano LE on August 30 and 31?
Since we have more information about CM's call log, the 2:19 a.m. time on the 30th is uncanny!

There's another one the next day but, afaik, Christina was missing already by then.

Again, why and who reported somebody missing from Henry's on September 1st?
Why from Henry's? Double weird.

 

[cluciano63]

"Unidentified" could mean they are not identifying it for the public...jmo

 

[Happyshoes]

Yeah, I guess it depends how you interpret the affidavit...

The DNA sample, labeled as “swab from edge of trunk opening,” indicated “there was a significant amount of DNA present, which was produced from a single-source female profile.” Plano PD CSI Manager Rick Staub compared the swab taken from the interior trunk opening to the DNA profile developed for Morris from a Dr. Pepper can found in her vehicle.
According to the affidavit, Staub found the DNA profile to be “a perfect match to the DNA profile of Christina Morris. … The chance of another person having this DNA profile is approximately 1 in 69 quadrillion Caucasians.” Based on his experience, Staub told Busby that the amount of DNA present on the swab from the interior of Arochi’s trunk is most likely a bodily fluid such as blood or saliva.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...cle_54ae76cc-87e2-11e4-b296-13824fa23769.html

Thanks so much for this! Maybe they want to question MM about the can of Dr. Pepper that LE took..? Good post, can't get past that 1 in 69 quadrillion or the word "significant" - to me. Even if it says "most likely", I think that was just to keep it close to the vest. They don't have to be exact in their wording IMO.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Seems like at the time, EA was her ONLY choice, to walk her.. but yes, she probably assumed he wouldn't harm her..

I thought SN offered to drive her all the way to Ft. Worth? Or did that come from the VI that wasn't verified?

CM could have been very aware of EA getting the sexual stiff-arm from SB, without having any awareness that he would then be looking for an alternative victim. It's easy to see after the fact, but in the moment his mindset may have been taken by CM as an interest in SB specifically, and not an interest in "sex from anyone he can get it from."

No, if he was as sexually frustrated as the affidavit would have us to believe, I don't think any girl would take a 20 minute walk at 3:30 AM with him. MOO

I assume its all the stranger danger stuff that is taught. My little girl is always afraid someone will come in the house and steal her at night. Its just because of the news and other things she sees and hears. I dont think its a strange comment or odd....just a fact of our children's lives these days....lots and lots of abductions are publicized, kids pick up on it and eventually fear it.

I get that, but worst fear? That's kind of extreme. MOO

I did read about manual strangulation and you are right, these two have very similar outcomes. Vomit, saliva, urine and feces are all very common bodily fluids that occur after manual strangulations. He may not have been able to get all of it off (well we KNOW he didnt) in his initial cleaning bc it's liquid and can flow deep into those open spaces.

I too thought that's why he needed the Odo-Ban. His car was locked up in the Tx heat for a week while he was in the Wylie jail. 2 days after his release from jail, they found the big qty of Odo-Ban in his trash pull, among other things.

I do believe strangulation is going to be the likely COD. I do not believe she was in his car deceased. Whatever happened to her happened outside of his vehicle, IMO.

 

[Mamamerced]

I did read about manual strangulation and you are right, these two have very similar outcomes. Vomit, saliva, urine and feces are all very common bodily fluids that occur after manual strangulations. He may not have been able to get all of it off (well we KNOW he didnt) in his initial cleaning bc it's liquid and can flow deep into those open spaces.
I too thought that's why he needed the Odo-Ban. His car was locked up in the Tx heat for a week while he was in the Wylie jail. 2 days after his release from jail, they found the big qty of Odo-Ban in his trash pull, among other things.

I wonder where his car was parked during that period of time? You'd think someone at his house would smell it (if indeed your scenario is accurate) if the car was parked at home.