GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #32 *Arrest*

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  • #261
If PPD thought HF was involved (I'm taking from your post that you think he was) is there a reason that they wouldn't have charged him? What advantage might there be to LE to delay with charges?

I still don't see HF as being involved but I want to make sure I haven't missed anything that might be throwing me off track
HF has always been of interest to me from the beginning when it came out HF never told anyone she was missing. His behavior after her family found out, especially watching him on interviews, didn't fool me at all. HF continued to sell drugs when he was supposedly "grieving" for Christina and showed his true colors. His "iron clad alibi" of being home asleep was blown today (I knew that was BS!). There is a lot more, but it comes down to what we can actually discuss here. According to LE, he is not a suspect.

EA contacted HF at 3:50am for "good rock" 5 minutes prior to EA kidnapping Christina and putting her in the trunk from the garage (not after the return to the area!). Do the math. This wasn't a SA, imo.

However, it is my opinion it would require finding her body to make a solid case against any others who could be involved if she was handed off or otherwise taken to a 3rd party. EA's defense attorneys cannot use a 3rd party involvement unless EA incriminates himself in the AK.
 
  • #262
Uh oh, I can't believe she stayed with him up until December after all the lies. I wouldn't have trust him at all.

Ya, no kidding. Surely after the 9/2014 warrant was released in November. That would have been a giant red flag to flee.
 
  • #263
HF has always been of interest to me from the beginning when it came out HF never told anyone she was missing. His behavior after her family found out, especially watching him on interviews, didn't fool me at all. HF continued to sell drugs when he was supposedly "grieving" for Christina and showed his true colors. His "iron clad alibi" of being home asleep was blown today (I knew that was BS!). There is a lot more, but it comes down to what we can actually discuss here. According to LE, he is not a suspect.

EA contacting HF at 3:50am for "good rock" 5 minutes prior to EA kidnapping Christina and putting her in the trunk from the garage (not after the return to the area!). Do the math. This wasn't a SA, imo.

However, it is my opinion it would require finding her body to make a solid case against any others who could be involved if she was handed off or otherwise taken to a 3rd party. EA's defense attorneys cannot use a 3rd party involvement unless EA incriminates himself in the AK.


BBM

According to LE, no one has been cleared.
 
  • #264
Most people believe EA is involved in CM's disappearance. Along with someone else.
 
  • #265
EA can't talk...LE has just said they think he murdered Christina. So unless he didn't but knows who did, what can he say? Jmo
 
  • #266
I am kind of conflicted about the notion that an altercation took place in the garage. I know it is possible, but that seems like such a short amount of time to make a move, get rejected, fight, and then put someone in a trunk. Trying to figure out how everything fits together in this mystery is driving me crazy.
 
  • #267
Most people believe EA is involved in CM's disappearance. Along with someone else.

Do most think so?
Anyway, I don't. I think it was just him.
 
  • #268
Ya, no kidding. Surely after the 9/2014 warrant was released in November. That would have been a giant red flag to flee.
He is a very good liar and manipulator. Not only does he spew lies he then turns around and tries to convince everyone he is such a good guy. Wouldnt hurt a fly. Has never even got a speeding ticket. Blah blah blah. Makes me sick. JMO!
 
  • #269
So, is there anyone out there who still thinks EA had absolutely nothing to do with this? I am with SteveS, whether he is the main guy (my personal belief) or a bit player, he can lead us to Christina. Probably wishful thinking, but I am hoping the failure to get his bond reduced will make him feel some heavy pressure. That's got to be quite a blow for him...please talk :/

i don't even think you can say he was a bit player, to me he is obviously the main player there can be discussion whether or not anyone else was involve but to me he is neck deep in it.

I really hope the publish a transcript of the hearing would make things easier.
 
  • #270
Just caught up. BIG 'ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO CATPATROL and many others who scoured the twitterverse for all things #christinamorris and kept us all updated :clap:

You guys rock. #findchristina
 
  • #271
Most people believe EA is involved in CM's disappearance. Along with someone else.

He's still got people trying to make evidence work in his favor. Or calling into question evidence or ideas that might implicate him. If someone else is involved, at least getting EA would hopefully lead us to anyone else who might be involved, right? I just think he deserves a lot heat and still isn't getting it from some.
 
  • #272
HF has always been of interest to me from the beginning when it came out HF never told anyone she was missing. His behavior after her family found out, especially watching him on interviews, didn't fool me at all. HF continued to sell drugs when he was supposedly "grieving" for Christina and showed his true colors. His "iron clad alibi" of being home asleep was blown today (I knew that was BS!). There is a lot more, but it comes down to what we can actually discuss here. According to LE, he is not a suspect.

EA contacted HF at 3:50am for "good rock" 5 minutes prior to EA kidnapping Christina and putting her in the trunk from the garage (not after the return to the area!). Do the math. This wasn't a SA, imo.

However, it is my opinion it would require finding her body to make a solid case against any others who could be involved if she was handed off or otherwise taken to a 3rd party. EA's defense attorneys cannot use a 3rd party involvement unless EA incriminates himself in the AK.


"EA contacted HF at 3:50am for "good rock" 5 minutes prior to EA kidnapping Christina and putting her in the trunk from the garage (not after the return to the area!). Do the math. This wasn't a SA, imo. "

Yes, like he knew he'd be seeing him soon. I, too, have yet to be convinced of SA. Aside from the couch story, more signs point to drugs or alternative motives than sex. IMO.

I will agree with Steve on the IN HIS TRUNK statement that EA is the man to follow (because,duh) just not convinced the road stops with him.
 
  • #273
Most people believe EA is involved in CM's disappearance. Along with someone else.

True. This is how my mind works. I have to be able to physical see how the crime occurred, not understand that it could have happened. What I mean is that I understand he could have kidnapped her, but I have to visualize how it occurred. After listening to everything today, they have evidence, DNA and he has injuries, including his car. Then LE says they think she was in the trunk in the garage. And they lost me. Had they said they thought she was in the passanger seat, I would be more on board. I get that there is much more evidence. I understand two minutes can be a long time. It isn't difficult for me to see how he is involved but it is difficult for me to understand how the actually AK happened and what followed.
 
  • #274
I am kind of conflicted about the notion that an altercation took place in the garage. I know it is possible, but that seems like such a short amount of time to make a move, get rejected, fight, and then put someone in a trunk. Trying to figure out how everything fits together in this mystery is driving me crazy.

And add in the front end car damage on EA's Camaro.
 
  • #275
I am kind of conflicted about the notion that an altercation took place in the garage. I know it is possible, but that seems like such a short amount of time to make a move, get rejected, fight, and then put someone in a trunk. Trying to figure out how everything fits together in this mystery is driving me crazy.

Hey Hibiscus! I'm with you there. Could he have gotten all those injuries in a minute or so?

At least several points were clarified. There was her DNA on his trunk mat and trunk lid, solidifying Steve's proclamation that she was IN HIS TRUNK. We know he didn't electronically log in to work at 8 a.m. as he stated in his interviews (that has to be one his more stupid lies) but at 10:50 a.m.

But then again there is more confusion; hopefully reports tonight will help clear some of that up.
 
  • #276
EA contacted HF at 3:50am for "good rock" 5 minutes prior to EA kidnapping Christina and putting her in the trunk from the garage (not after the return to the area!). Do the math. This wasn't a SA, imo.

you've once again stated that as a definitive fact when even the detective UNDER OATH stated today they did not know who sent that message.
 
  • #277
Do most think so?
Anyway, I don't. I think it was just him.

I think it was just him too but it seems like we are in a small group. Time will tell one way or the other hopefully
 
  • #278
Why? Because it takes 3 minutes to stuff someone in a trunk? I totally disagree. Respectfully.

Wonder if EA may have used a stun gun to get her in the trunk so quickly, if indeed it occurred in parking garage?
 
  • #279
I am kind of conflicted about the notion that an altercation took place in the garage. I know it is possible, but that seems like such a short amount of time to make a move, get rejected, fight, and then put someone in a trunk. Trying to figure out how everything fits together in this mystery is driving me crazy.
And that's what's scary here. What's that OJ trial line "if it doesn't fit.."
Granted we're talking about time vs.a glove but I see some holes myself. LE needs and hopefully has more information. And we really, really need to find Christina.
 
  • #280
EA can't talk...LE has just said they think he murdered Christina. So unless he didn't but knows who did, what can he say? Jmo
He cant. Unless he leads them to a live unharmed Christina or points to who he handed her off to IF someone else was involved. I am afraid he will remain silent and maintain his innocence unless evidence is found and he is charged with capital murder and they go for the death sentence. He will then only confess to avoid the death sentence. His "confession" I still will not believe is the whole truth. My speculations as of right now if he ever "comes clean"
1 He claims he blacked out or the adderall/alcohol/smoke a bowl combo damaged his brain and ability to make rational decisions that night.
2 He claims she OD off drugs she got from HF or another person she contacted that night and he freaked out because he was not sober or on drugs himself.
3 He accidentally hit her with his car and again freaked out because he was not sober when walking to his car.

All JMO which are subject to change as evidence is revealed.
 
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