GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

[daisytrail]

So, I am confused, but if I am understanding correctly what you are trying to say is that basically maybe HF felt it was over between him and Christina, so why answer her calls?? Maybe that could explain why it appears he didn't bother to worry about where she was for Four Days?

Yes. That is what I am saying. Also, he was partying and he may have been busy doing business. Maybe he was just not that into her anymore. He's not going to say that now, of course.

 

[SaintGirl]

You know what even more bizaar is that these were only VOICE calls. Texts are listed in another portion of the bill apparently. I don't have Sprint so I'm just going off of others here, but ya, a crap load of calls when her age group usually texts non-stop as their primary communication venue, so who know what happened on texts!!!!

True but it's not unheard of to blowup your boyfriend's phone when you're fighting and he refuses to talk to you. Not that I'm speaking from experience, of course, just something I've heard somewhere.

 

[BaeMomma]

Not when it turns in to lectures. People have set ideas and opinions in their mind. They are not likely to change those very easily without good reason. Example; pro lifers and pro choice folks. Their minds are made up. They are not going to change their minds. Yet there are some who are very militant on shoving their opinions at people in a very overbearing and condescending manner. That is not debate or healthy discussion. If your happy with that type of discussion, more power to you. If you disagree with those of us who prefer to look at all the evidence when the time comes before making a judgement, then you don't have to respond to us. We may repeat questions and theories, just ignore us. All we are doing is trying to look at the bigger picture and find Christina. At this point, finding. Christina is the priority. After 5 months the arguing had gotten nowhere and still no Christina.

Thanks for responding and have a good night. I am off to dreamland

I think you have two varying mind sets. But to assume one is "only trying to find Christina" while the other is more militant and pushing opinions down others' throats isn't gonna sweep under the rug without a laugh out loud. You might believe that but I believe opposite just as strongly. We all have varying ideas, everyone's main goal is to find Christina.....no wonder there are disagreements and hung jury's, correct?

 

[txyorkiemom]

Um, I don't equate SA to trunk. That would be kinda awkward. MOO

I equate simple assualt to disabling and throwing someone in the trunk. JMO

Not only that ..but the awkwardness of the height of the trunk and the smaller odd shaped opening as well
nor do I see any type of SA in the front of the low bucket cockpit area with the bulky console either .

Well, I don't think if there was SA that it happened in the trunk. Is anyone giving that serious consideration? Come on.

Iirc, JMOM said the location of the bite on EA led her to believe he was bitten while outside of the car. And his other injuries indicate a fight with someone.

So, a scenario? Christina is hit (by a car door, by a fist) and knocked out at EA's car, thrown in his trunk. He leaves garage, drives away. Maybe CM comes to, uses trunk release latch, or comes to and is able to attack EA when he stops wherever and opens the trunk. Fight ensues, she does not win. She is murdered, with or without SA. He drives back toward the Shops, maybe to leave CM near her car, then heads home, leaving lots of questions in his wake.

All roads relating to Christina's current situation lead back to EA, whether or not anyone else was involved. He has all the answers, whether or not anyone else was involved.

(By a car door - how casino man incapacitated a woman who walked with him out to parking lot, he smashed her with car door, threw her in the back seat, and drove away. By a fist - we've probably all seen a video of someone getting cold cocked, out like a light. And one minute would have been sufficient, let alone three.)

IMO, of course.

My post that was quoted off - was not a stand alone posting . only a comment to go along and tag along with a previous poster .

 

[daisytrail]

Well, I don't think if there was SA that it happened in the trunk. Is anyone giving that serious consideration? Come on.

Iirc, JMOM said the location of the bite on EA led her to believe he was bitten while outside of the car. And his other injuries indicate a fight with someone.

So, a scenario? Christina is hit (by a car door, by a fist) and knocked out at EA's car, thrown in his trunk. He leaves garage, drives away. Maybe CM comes to, uses trunk release latch, or comes to and is able to attack EA when he stops wherever and opens the trunk. Fight ensues, she does not win. She is murdered, with or without SA. He drives back toward the Shops, maybe to leave CM near her car, then heads home, leaving lots of questions in his wake.

All roads relating to Christina's current situation lead back to EA, whether or not anyone else was involved. He has all the answers, whether or not anyone else was involved.

(By a car door - how casino man incapacitated a woman who walked with him out to parking lot, he smashed her with car door, threw her in the back seat, and drove away. By a fist - we've probably all seen a video of someone getting cold cocked, out like a light. And one minute would have been sufficient, let alone three.)

IMO, of course.

As a scenario, that makes sense. Even if SA is the motive for the subsequent events, that doesn't mean SA was actually accomplished.

 

[txyorkiemom]

I am glad I had to wash my hair and watch Downton Abbey.

I see people here as being in four groups:

1. They believe EA did it and most likely did it alone.
2. They believe EA did it and most likely had help from a family member.
3. They believe EA did it and it was done as a part of a drug conspiracy in which Christina somehow went afoul of the wrong people.
4. People who have been sleuthing this so long that they are having trouble letting go.

I think there is complete agreement that EA did it, or at least did something because she was in his trunk.

Is there any one that believe EA had nothing to do with the death of Christina? I thought so.

What is left to discuss? Essentially, the thing most worth discussing is where Christina could be. Another thing that is of interest is motive, but to me that comes back to Arochi, a pretty boring guy of limited intelligence and imagination. Discuss the motives of other people and most likely we are in violation of the rules laid down by the mods.

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

 

[jnblsm]

Steve have your online wives turned on you and out voted? Lol. What happened to team Steve?

I still love you, honey.

 

[cluciano63]

It's possible that Christina and HF were on the verge of a break-up, but had not really made that known to friends and family. It is not always easy to admit a relationship failure, especially if one had left person for another just a year earlier. Sounds like she may have been hinting to her mother that things were shaky, maybe to prepare her. If so, I can see HF not worrying about her much over the long weekend, maybe even being relieved that she had backed off.

Still wondering, though, why close friends and family did not pursue trying to track her down by at least Sunday, if she had not replied to texts or answered calls. That seems highly unusual behavior, Imo, especially if she had not answered or picked up if a family member was trying to reach her. It doesn't matter now, and probably would not even have mattered at the time, I guess, since by Saturday EA was already busy destroying evidence and Christina was probably already deceased, Imo. But it puzzles me. Jmo

 

[SteveS]

I have been here following, and I wanted to say that I know that a couple of bodies have been found in bent tree golf course lake/pond over the last several years. Including a dpd officer that killed himself.

Yeah, any place with woods, brush, ponds/lakes, etc is a feasible place to hide a body, but the flip side is that there are about a million of those within range that he might have chosen. That having been said, in this case, I tend NOT to think she would be somewhere on a golf course, only because I think she would have been found already ...and also because, if he put her on a golf course on a Saturday morning, it can't have been after daylight (presence of golfers everywhere on a holiday weekend golf course) which is the time window for moving her that I think makes the most sense.

 

[daisytrail]

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

If you do not think Arochi put CM in his trunk, then only a couple of options remain open, that Arochi had help or that someone is framing him. As far as the DNA, do you have reason to believe that there has been some sort of break in the chain of evidence? If you do not see a motive for EA to harm her, do you believe the evidence indicates that he did, regardless of motive?

 

[SteveS]

So, I am confused, but if I am understanding correctly what you are trying to say is that basically maybe HF felt it was over between him and Christina, so why answer her calls?? Maybe that could explain why it appears he didn't bother to worry about where she was for Four Days?

I am mostly swayed by CM's mom, who certainly has no agenda other than find her daughter, and who has seemed to be satisfied with HF's explanations (whatever they are). I think JM says them going for days without contact was NOT abnormal, and it has sounded to me like it was a relationship where they each pushed the boundaries. So who knows? Maybe her being gone for days, or him, and ignoring calls or not trying to get in contact, was just part of the "game" they used to push each other's buttons. Relationships can be weird, especially if it's someone else's you're trying to understand and not your own.

Or maybe daisytrail's thinking is more insightful: "Also, he was partying and he may have been busy doing business. Maybe he was just not that into her anymore. He's not going to say that now, of course."

 

[Happyshoes]

As a scenario, that makes sense. Even if SA is the motive for the subsequent events, that doesn't mean SA was actually accomplished.

Correct, daisy - this was Intent IMO, whether he followed up or could get it up, is no matter now. With the Ak charge, he could have wanted to commit AK, but never got that far. She fought back, I hope, I hope, I hope. Maybe her fingernails will tell the story or her bite mark. He would have if he could have, IMO

 

[SaintGirl]

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

Yes and from those spots and swabs we were told it was a significant amount of her DNA. So much in fact it led her mother to state it was enough for LE to believe she is no longer alive.

If he didn't put her in the trunk of his car, who did?

 

[daisytrail]

Correct, daisy - this was Intent IMO, whether he followed up or could get it up, is no matter now. With the Ak charge, he could have wanted to commit AK, but never got that far. She fought back, I hope, I hope, I hope. Maybe her fingernails will tell the story or her bite mark. He would have if he could have, IMO

Thank you. May I please ask a favor of you? Daisy is the name of my missing daughter. Hence the name, daisytrail. I never thought when I chose it how I might end up being called Daisy, but I am uncomfortable with it. Silly, I know. It would be a kindness though.

 

[Happyshoes]

Thank you. May I please ask a favor of you? Daisy is the name of my missing daughter. Hence the name, daisytrail. I never thought when I chose it how I might end up being called Daisy, but I am uncomfortable with it. Silly, I know. It would be a kindness though.

Oh babygirl - so sorry. What do you want us to call you? Maybe change your name if you can. Too many missing beautiful girls missing in our not so kind world. What shall we call you?

 

[daisytrail]

Oh babygirl - so sorry. What do you want us to call you? Maybe change your name if you can. Too many missing beautiful girls missing in our not so kind world. What shall we call you?

Just the whole of daisytrail, if you do not mind. I am trying to find the trail of my daughter. Her full name is actually Daisy Suzanna Hamilton.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Subscribing.......

 

[NWLady]

I am mostly swayed by CM's mom, who certainly has no agenda other than find her daughter, and who has seemed to be satisfied with HF's explanations (whatever they are). I think JM says them going for days without contact was NOT abnormal, and it has sounded to me like it was a relationship where they each pushed the boundaries. So who knows? Maybe her being gone for days, or him, and ignoring calls or not trying to get in contact, was just part of the "game" they used to push each other's buttons. Relationships can be weird, especially if it's someone else's you're trying to understand and not your own.

Or maybe daisytrail's thinking is more insightful: "Also, he was partying and he may have been busy doing business. Maybe he was just not that into her anymore. He's not going to say that now, of course."

Thank you, SteveS for the explanation, that makes sense. What was normal for their relationship may not seem normal to some of us which is completely understandable. However, without it being said by a person on the inside (such as family member) the majority of us wouldn't have understood it or seen it as normal behavior, and that's why so many of us have had a hard time grasping why he didn't seem concerned but now it makes sense. Thank you and thanks to daisytrail, it makes sense now.

 

[NWLady]

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

txyorkiemom, I enjoy reading your posts and you have great input and insight. No disrespect intended but rather you have me very curious as to how Christina's DNA may have ended up in EA's trunk? Would you be so kind to give me an example of what you're thinking? Possibly from an item of clothing or something of hers being placed in the trunk? Someone purposely planting DNA of CM's in his trunk? etc etc etc
Thanks in advance. You have my gears smoking but they're not going anywhere...

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I still love you, honey.

:laugh:

It's a new day! And that was cute.