GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

[Eileen730]

I do not think if I was Jonni I would love HF. I would feel extremely betrayed and pissed off. No trust. Def no love. But that's just me and I never probably would of been so trusting of him from the start, but I am also extremely skeptical of people especially once my kids are of dating age. But who knows how anyone reacts when it happens to them right?
Jmo

I dont think she trusted him at all!
I think she was just keeping him close so she could find out all she could.

Remember Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

You dont think him not reporting her missing made Jonni KNOW something was up with this dude?
the only way to find out what was to keep him close.

JMO

 

[frisson]

Quote Originally Posted by txyorkiemom

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

I agree with you yorkiemom.

BBM

I agree as well, TYM.

 

[Bootsctr]

I dont think she trusted him at all!
I think she was just keeping him close so she could find out all she could.

Remember Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

You dont think him not reporting her missing made Jonni KNOW something was up with this dude?
the only way to find out what was to keep him close.

JMO

Maybe. She covered for him by saying he was at home sleeping in bed when he wasn't. She covered for him by saying he couldn't find his phone. Maybe she was just helping the Feds keep the drug investigation under wraps and not exposing the text about the rock and stuff. She didn't keep him very close all the time. She let him go to Oklahoma. I'd have been sitting on him literally. He wouldn't have made a move where I didn't have at least one eyeball on him at all times.

 

[Bootsctr]

If you're theorizing that she might have been headed to W rather than to FW, and that a door there is what she wanted left open, that's an idea.

Based on whatever evidence they have, LE says they believe she had her keys when she walked to the car, so there's that.

I don't have a guess as to whether the fact she had to work would kill the trip to the W possibility or not. Or on whether she would have gone to the W to get "something" to allow her to skip a night's sleep and go to work wide awake. Unfortunately the idea can't be proven since she never even got to her car, and certainly never went in the direction of the W (or FW either).

As I noted earlier, I am also a bit leery of what we "think is true" about the calls and texts, because without a full transcript of all of it, what little we know could be skewed from lack of context and/or accuracy. Obviously LE has all that, as does the family, but we only know (or think we know) bits and pieces.

Yep, she had her car keys. Why walk all the way to the garage and insist on driving if you don't have your car keys? That's been hashed and re-hashed. She never drove her car that much we do know. Now I don't know if she eventually went in the direction of W or not. Just because her phone didn't ping there doesn't mean she didn't go there. And just because the BF's cell phone didn't ping in plano doesn't mean he didn't go there. He seems like a sneaky weasel type to me. Used all of Christina's social media accounts, controlled her passwords and usernames and didn't have his own so he could fly under the radar. Sneaky, smart, mean - yep - that pretty much sums up what I think about him.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Maybe. She covered for him by saying he was at home sleeping in bed when he wasn't. She covered for him by saying he couldn't find his phone. Maybe she was just helping the Feds keep the drug investigation under wraps and not exposing the text about the rock and stuff. She didn't keep him very close all the time. She let him go to Oklahoma. I'd have been sitting on him literally. He wouldn't have made a move where I didn't have at least one eyeball on him at all times.

Very true.
IMO as a parent, HF was also the last direct connection to CM. The family wanted, so badly, for him not to be the arse he turned out to be. I can understand the pain and longing to keep that connection. However, lies, lies and more lies...he truly failed CM and her family.

 

[Lrc143]

See I don't even think Jonni knew it was a girls night out - she got this information from hunter. It started out as a shopping trip from thread 1 and evolved there. It has always been a work in progress as has the clothes she was wearing and whether her keys were lost and found and what keys were lost and found, etc., etc., etc. I don't think CM was one to call her mother every day and inform her of her daily plans. She was a big girl, 23-years-old. IIRC, none of Christina's immediate family was on the call list to call if she didn't show for work.

link please. I have been wondering where the girls night came from. I can see where CM told HF or her mother, I am going to hang with the girls tonight and totally not be aware or care that SN and EA were going to be there at some point too.

 

[frisson]

Do any of you know if both CM and HF were on the lease where they lived? (Did they rent or own?) Did one live there already and the other joined? Or did they get the place together so it was new to both of them? TIA

 

[Bootsctr]

link please. I have been wondering where the girls night came from. I can see where CM told HF or her mother, I am going to hang with the girls tonight and totally not be aware or care that SN and EA were going to be there at some point too.

No link. And I posted such to another poster! I think she actually got the girls night out from the girls SB and PP when in fact it really wasn't a girls night out - it was a party - just a party - nothing more or nothing less. CM's mother probably got her information from CM's companions that fateful night - SB and PP and SN. Not sure what HF told her. CM's boss has stated they were fighting because CM found out he was cheating on her. Just know from thread one it started out as a shopping trip and evolved from there.

 

[Bootsctr]

Do any of you know if both CM and HF were on the lease where they lived? (Did they rent or own?) Did one live there already and the other joined? Or did they get the place together so it was new to both of them? TIA

I thought it was HF's place already. CM moved directly from Aaron Logan Prendergast's home into Hunter's home.

“She was supposed to call her friends that she made it home safely…She never got that phone call,” McElroy said.

http://cw33.com/2014/09/04/police-s...r-woman-who-disappeared-from-shops-at-legacy/

Typo there. Nickerson never received the call that Christina made it home safely. smh!

 

[zippixx]

JMO~ I am not convinced Arochi put CM in his trunk . JMO~
We have been told that DNA matching CM were found in 2 spots in the trunk and swab match from the edge of the trunk in the court bond hearing.
JMO~I see NO real motive for EA to harm CM JMO~

BBM

I agree as well, TYM.

I would venture to say that there seldom is "real motive" for a sexual predator, rapist, murderer.. What I mean by "real motive" is.. does any person deserve what happened to Christina? Of course not. I mean, what "real motive" justifies this act? (and I know you are not saying it is justified, so please don't take it that way) LE arrested him, with plenty of evidence, pointing to the crime. Enough that there is a$1,000,000 bond! A judge denied release & a bond reduction, after hearing a small portion of the evidence. All known evidence points directly at EA. That's good enough for me.. All JMO & IMO... thank you

ETA: My post seems sorta confusing.. I guess what I'm saying, it doesn't take a specific motive for a sexual attack, attempted rape.. With that said, if it had something to do with drugs, there is plenty of "motive" there..

 

[brado]

Why would he or Christina text about "some of that good rock" if it was in Christina's possession? Wouldn't he just steal it?

Maybe that was EA's diversion during the walk to his car, could have been his guise to walk with her in the first place (in addition to being parked near her). I'm just speculating that perhaps CM had a large amount of cash on her from distributing some of HF's product, and that robbery of that cash or any remaining product could have been a motive of EA's.

 

[suzyjackson]

link please. I have been wondering where the girls night came from. I can see where CM told HF or her mother, I am going to hang with the girls tonight and totally not be aware or care that SN and EA were going to be there at some point too.

I know that I've posted this link before and I know it's from the early days but it is Jonni herself talking.

The reference here is to a "night out with friends" which to me sums up what it was. I wonder if he girls element is a rumour that has somehow morphed into fact.

JMO

 

[daisytrail]

Yep, she had her car keys. Why walk all the way to the garage and insist on driving if you don't have your car keys? That's been hashed and re-hashed. She never drove her car that much we do know. Now I don't know if she eventually went in the direction of W or not. Just because her phone didn't ping there doesn't mean she didn't go there. And just because the BF's cell phone didn't ping in plano doesn't mean he didn't go there. He seems like a sneaky weasel type to me. Used all of Christina's social media accounts, controlled her passwords and usernames and didn't have his own so he could fly under the radar. Sneaky, smart, mean - yep - that pretty much sums up what I think about him.

I believe drug dealers/suppliers have more than one phone.

 

[jennapuppy]

For those of you who think that EA wasn't responsible for CM's disappearance, I have some questions:

Why do you think EA lied to police about walking CM to her car?
Why would he sit in jail and face serious charges instead of fingering the person responsible?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I'd genuinely like to hear your theories. TIA

 

[suzyjackson]

Yep, she had her car keys. Why walk all the way to the garage and insist on driving if you don't have your car keys? That's been hashed and re-hashed. She never drove her car that much we do know. Now I don't know if she eventually went in the direction of W or not. Just because her phone didn't ping there doesn't mean she didn't go there. And just because the BF's cell phone didn't ping in plano doesn't mean he didn't go there. He seems like a sneaky weasel type to me. Used all of Christina's social media accounts, controlled her passwords and usernames and didn't have his own so he could fly under the radar. Sneaky, smart, mean - yep - that pretty much sums up what I think about him.

With respect I don't think we've ever had any suggestion that he controlled Christina's passwords or that he used her accounts to deceive anyone. For all we know he's an IT illeterate who wasn't able to or couldn't be bothered to maintain his own social media, not all young people are using SM of all types all day long. He may never have been clean for long enough to operate his own accounts, we don't know why he's not on SM but from memory he's not the only one, has anyone found SN on SM (not sleuthing, just giving an example of someone else with no SM presence)

Many many times I've said that HF was probably one of the worst boyfriends a parent would want for their daughter and a suspected drug dealer but we have no evidence that he was anything more than that. I'm no HF apologist but I don't think it helps us to stray from the facts we know.

JMO

 

[Bootsctr]

Maybe that was EA's diversion during the walk to his car, could have been his guise to walk with her in the first place (in addition to being parked near her). I'm just speculating that perhaps CM had a large amount of cash on her from distributing some of HF's product, and that robbery of that cash or any remaining product could have been a motive of EA's.

I'm speculating that if CM and HF had a fight prior to CM going out for the night she wasn't distributing HF's product for him. She asked PP for an Adderall so I don't think she had any drugs on her person. I really don't think she wanted any part of that business. At least two of their personal friends had died from the S*** - I think she wanted him to quit distributing. Why would EA have to divert during her walk to the car? That was all on tape. It's what happened inside the garage we can't see.

 

[Bootsctr]

With respect I don't think we've ever had any suggestion that he controlled Christina's passwords or that he used her accounts to deceive anyone. For all we know he's an IT illeterate who wasn't able to or couldn't be bothered to maintain his own social media, not all young people are using SM of all types all day long. He may never have been clean for long enough to operate his own accounts, we don't know why he's not on SM but from memory he's not the only one, has anyone found SN on SM (not sleuthing, just giving an example of someone else with no SM presence)

Many many times I've said that HF was probably one of the worst boyfriends a parent would want for their daughter and a suspected drug dealer but we have no evidence that he was anything more than that. I'm no HF apologist but I don't think it helps us to stray from the facts we know.

JMO

Well, how did he post a personal message on her FB? Don't you have to have a password and username to post on Facebook? Why didn't he post on his own facebook?

 

[suzyjackson]

For those of you who think that EA wasn't responsible for CM's disappearance, I have some questions:

Why do you think EA lied to police about walking CM to her car?
Why would he sit in jail and face serious charges instead of fingering the person responsible?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I'd genuinely like to hear your theories. TIA

BBM - this is something I don't understand either, I don't subscribe to the premeditated drug realated hand off (too flaky to work IMHO) and I just don't see why an innocent man would stay silently in prison.

His own family could mount a media campaign to rally support for him if they thought he was innocent, speaking only for myself there's no way I'd let a child of mine sit in a jail without kicking up a fuss if I knew they hadn't done something. Jonni has shown the power a parent can have, why aren't the Arochis doing something similar?

JMO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

For those of you who think that EA wasn't responsible for CM's disappearance, I have some questions:

Why do you think EA lied to police about walking CM to her car?
Why would he sit in jail and face serious charges instead of fingering the person responsible?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I'd genuinely like to hear your theories. TIA

:desert:
I haven't seen any of those people post... DONDE estas?

 

[Bootsctr]

I believe drug dealers/suppliers have more than one phone.

Yep, I sure agree with that statement. So which phone did HF hand over to LE? The one with all the good and clean messages, or the one that contained all his drug activity or any illegal activity? We know EA erased his phone, but if someone had posted a text about some good rock on my phone - I'd be deleting Shiite right and left. And if my no-good, drug-dealing BF wouldn't answer my phone calls even after I said I lost my freaking keys, I might borrow the person's phone I was walking with and text that no good lying SOB "how about some good rock" because I know that would get a response out of the prick.