GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

[Gigglingtoes]

For those of you who think that EA wasn't responsible for CM's disappearance, I have some questions:

Why do you think EA lied to police about walking CM to her car?
Why would he sit in jail and face serious charges instead of fingering the person responsible?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I'd genuinely like to hear your theories. TIA

A smart dealer would.... But I don't feel like HF is bright.

Jmo

 

[suzyjackson]

Well, how did he post a personal message on her FB? Don't you have to have a password and username to post on Facebook? Why didn't he post on his own facebook?

We've been told he doesn't have his own facebook account and even if he did it would make sense to post on Christina's so that her friends would see it.

I don't you if you use facebook but I have both my PC and phone logged in all the time so anyone could use my account, no user name or password required, sorry if you know this but the term "frape" covers this situation - using the facebook of someone else who's left it open. An absolutely everyday occurance and not related to control or FBI avoidance (although of course there will always be some who use it in that way)

JMO

 

[Momoffourboys]

For those of you who think that EA wasn't responsible for CM's disappearance, I have some questions:

Why do you think EA lied to police about walking CM to her car?
Why would he sit in jail and face serious charges instead of fingering the person responsible?

I'm not trying to be snarky. I'd genuinely like to hear your theories. TIA

I can only speak for myself, and IMO, he is involved BUT is not solely responsible. I believe he had company in whatever went down. With so much confusion that night and so many sketchy characters involved..this is what makes sense to me.

 

[suzyjackson]

I'm speculating that if CM and HF had a fight prior to CM going out for the night she wasn't distributing HF's product for him. She asked PP for an Adderall so I don't think she had any drugs on her person. I really don't think she wanted any part of that business. At least two of their personal friends had died from the S*** - I think she wanted him to quit distributing. Why would EA have to divert during her walk to the car? That was all on tape. It's what happened inside the garage we can't see.

I think you're right about Christina not having drugs on her or at least IMO if she did she wouldn't have had any left by the time she left the party. There's no suggestion she was a dealer so if she took anything for the use of the partygoers I'd guess it would have just been the quatities she thought they would have needed and maybe she went home when it was all gone.

This is totally JMO as I've never been in the company of drug dealers or takers to my knowledge

JMO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

BBM - this is something I don't understand either, I don't subscribe to the premeditated drug realated hand off (too flaky to work IMHO) and I just don't see why an innocent man would stay silently in prison.

His own family could mount a media campaign to rally support for him if they thought he was innocent, speaking only for myself there's no way I'd let a child of mine sit in a jail without kicking up a fuss if I knew they hadn't done something. Jonni has shown the power a parent can have, why aren't the Arochis doing something similar?

JMO

I would imagine embarassment and shame. From what we have seen, they were in the room and allowed the interviews to be held in their home, claiming his innocence. His mom at least, seemed to believe it. So now that he is in jail and they have a lawyer etc, I would imagine an attorney would say "stay quiet."
Just guessing though.

 

[Bootsctr]

BBM - this is something I don't understand either, I don't subscribe to the premeditated drug realated hand off (too flaky to work IMHO) and I just don't see why an innocent man would stay silently in prison.

His own family could mount a media campaign to rally support for him if they thought he was innocent, speaking only for myself there's no way I'd let a child of mine sit in a jail without kicking up a fuss if I knew they hadn't done something. Jonni has shown the power a parent can have, why aren't the Arochis doing something similar?

JMO

Their hands are pretty much tied. Her DNA is on his trunk. What their son did is not their fault. Don't blame them. I think the personal attacks against the Arochis are down and dirty and shameful.

 

[daisytrail]

Well, how did he post a personal message on her FB? Don't you have to have a password and username to post on Facebook? Why didn't he post on his own facebook?

He posted to her page because it would get the most immediate attention from people who knew her. Housemates, SOs, family members often have the passwords. Also people use other people's computers sometimes to connect with their page. Often computers are set to automatically save lots of stuff, including user names and passwords. I do not find what he did either illogical or sinister.

 

[Bootsctr]

He posted to her page because it would get the most immediate attention from people who knew her. Housemates, SOs, family members often have the passwords. Also people use other people's computers sometimes to connect with their page. Often computers are set to automatically save lots of stuff, including user names and passwords. I do not find what he did either illogical or sinister.

I don't disagree, but He's no angel. Would you want him dating your daughter?

 

[Bootsctr]

I would imagine embarassment and shame. From what we have seen, they were in the room and allowed the interviews to be held in their home, claiming his innocence. His mom at least, seemed to believe it. So now that he is in jail and they have a lawyer etc, I would imagine an attorney would say "stay quiet."
Just guessing though.

Worked for Casey Anthony. If you're going to pay for a lawyer you should listen to them.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Their hands are pretty much tied. Her DNA is on his trunk. What their son did is not their fault. Don't blame them. And for heaven's sakes leave the babies out of this fight. I think the personal attacks against the Arochis are down and dirty and shameful.

Babies? :thinking:

 

[Bootsctr]

With respect I don't think we've ever had any suggestion that he controlled Christina's passwords or that he used her accounts to deceive anyone. For all we know he's an IT illeterate who wasn't able to or couldn't be bothered to maintain his own social media, not all young people are using SM of all types all day long. He may never have been clean for long enough to operate his own accounts, we don't know why he's not on SM but from memory he's not the only one, has anyone found SN on SM (not sleuthing, just giving an example of someone else with no SM presence)

Many many times I've said that HF was probably one of the worst boyfriends a parent would want for their daughter and a suspected drug dealer but we have no evidence that he was anything more than that. I'm no HF apologist but I don't think it helps us to stray from the facts we know.

JMO

He's not IT illiterate. He conveniently posted a picture of himself that Friday night at the Holocaust museum in Dallas.

Plus, I don't think he's a suspected drug dealer any more. Pretty sure there would be bond if he was suspected. No bond for HF either. And he's killed quite a few people indirectly.

 

[Bootsctr]

Babies? :thinking:

Doesn't Jonni have grandchildren? Or two small step-children?

 

[suzyjackson]

Their hands are pretty much tied. Her DNA is on his trunk. What their son did is not their fault. Don't blame them. And for heaven's sakes leave the babies out of this fight. I think the personal attacks against the Arochis are down and dirty and shameful.

I haven't seen any attacks on the family, I'm assuming they aren't on here and I'm not saying anything is their fault, I was continuing the line of thought about whether EA might be innocent. I don't believe he is and I don't believe anyone else is involved and part of the evidence for me drawing these conclusions is the silence from the whole family

JMO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Doesn't Jonni have grandchildren? Or two small step-children?

I guess she has step sons but you lost me lol

 

[jennapuppy]

:desert:
I haven't seen any of those people post... DONDE estas?

I'm referring to the posters who aren't convinced that EA put CM in his trunk. TYM posted that earlier and a few posters agreed. I'm not sure if they are disputing LE's interpretation of the DNA evidence, and I wonder if they think EA is an accessory or witness to a crime that someone else committed. JMO

 

[Le Singe]

So, a scenario? Christina is hit (by a car door, by a fist) and knocked out at EA's car, thrown in his trunk. He leaves garage, drives away. Maybe CM comes to, uses trunk release latch, or comes to and is able to attack EA when he stops wherever and opens the trunk. Fight ensues, she does not win. She is murdered, with or without SA. He drives back toward the Shops, maybe to leave CM near her car, then heads home, leaving lots of questions in his wake.

this is currently my thinking as well with the lever even possible being pulled on the road causing him to veer off the road and hit something. Or maybe she just got loose in the trunk and when he opened it she came at him. But basically I suspect he subdued her in the garage and got her in the trunk with the intent of bringing her to a second crime scene. I personally think the motive for doing this was SA, but other than just wanting to know what happened the motive does not matter to me.

When i think of him doing something with or for either the ex or the current boyfriend I have to ask myself whats in it for Enrique? Clearly it was a plot that was going to put him at the most risk. No I'm pretty sure from what we know that Enrique is a look out for number one type of guy. So whatever the "benefit" of doing this was, it was him that would be the ultimate beneficiary and the BIG CHIEF so to speak.

The leads us to two options SA or he wanted to rob Christina of drugs that she may or may not have had. To me Enrique doesn't have the look or the lifestyle or the criminal record of someone who is so bad off on drugs that he would murder someone spur of the moment to get drugs. He also doesn't have the criminal record to suggest he is the type of person that would murder someone for drugs just to do it. To me SA is the only logical conclusion.

People say he is a sociopath, but I don't know I see him more as a narcissist (line between narcissist and sociopath can be blurry). Narcissists do not take rejection well at all its not like it is for the rest of us to them it is a direct attack on the inflated self image they have develop that is all important to them. He feels rejected which gives him major anxiety and anger at SB but also at women in general and the easiest way to fix it is to dominate and control a woman (in his mind). He sees an opportunity he takes it. To me this is SA even if he never actually tried to have sex with her SA isn't about sex its about power and control.

 

[suzyjackson]

He's not IT illiterate. He conveniently posted a picture of himself that Friday night at the Holocaust museum in Dallas.

Plus, I don't think he's a suspected drug dealer any more. Pretty sure there would be bond if he was suspected. No bond for HF either. And he's killed quite a few people indirectly.

It seems like I'm constantly disagreeing with you, sorry, I think it's just because no one else is posting much at the moment :smile:

I though Christina uploaded that photo - JMO at the moment as I don't have a link.

I said suspected because I know the case hasn't gone to court yet, could we have a link for his indirect killings please

JMO

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I'm referring to the posters who aren't convinced that EA put CM in his trunk. TYM posted that earlier and a few posters agreed. I'm not sure if they are disputing LE's interpretation of the DNA evidence, and I wonder if they think EA is an accessory or witness to a crime that someone else committed. JMO

Oh I see. Well We can't say anyone else we may think helped. :sweep:

 

[Bootsctr]

I haven't seen any attacks on the family, I'm assuming they aren't on here and I'm not saying anything is their fault, I was continuing the line of thought about whether EA might be innocent. I don't believe he is and I don't believe anyone else is involved and part of the evidence for me drawing these conclusions is the silence from the whole family

JMO

I don't believe EA is innocent either. But for someone as dumb as dirt as most people here believe he is and one lucky SOB too, you would think LE would be able to find Christina's body. Ain't nobody that lucky....

 

[suzyjackson]

Oh I see. Well We can't say anyone else we may think helped. :sweep:

O/T - is that EA vacumming his mats? I hope it's OK for me to have smiled a little at your emoji