GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

[Momoffourboys]

Also....I would sit in jail for 99 years before I would give up someone who is capable of harming my family. Even, if I were completely innocent (which I don't believe EA is). IMO MOO JMO

 

[SteveS]

I'm speculating that if CM and HF had a fight prior to CM going out for the night she wasn't distributing HF's product for him. She asked PP for an Adderall so I don't think she had any drugs on her person. I really don't think she wanted any part of that business. At least two of their personal friends had died from the S*** - I think she wanted him to quit distributing.

I think this is a great point, and one I had never thought of. There's a massive assumption here that CM was dealing drugs or muling (ie carrying from dealer to buyer/user) that night, and was helping in the sale and distribution of narcotics.

But that doesn't jive with the idea that she was trying to get HF to stop doing whatever drug stuff he was doing. If she truly was opposed to his involvement with drugs, it stands to reason she wouldn't have been carrying, selling, or helping HF in those pursuits in any way that night.

So some part of the picture being imagined doesn't fit.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I hope. You would think they would have checked Christina's car before they let the security guard get in it and her dad drive it home. Oh yeah, he had CM's passwords too. Wonder if HF gave those to him?

Yep, you would have thought LE would have taped that whole garage area off as a crime scene.... Did they?

I don't think so. Would it have made a diff since so many days had passed? Idk that they could "preserve" things after that much traffic and so many people though.

But I'm not a cop. So idk.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I think this is a great point, and one I had never thought of. There's a massive assumption here that CM was dealing drugs or muling (ie carrying from dealer to buyer/user) that night, and was helping in the sale and distribution of narcotics.

But that doesn't jive with the idea that she was trying to get HF to stop doing whatever drug stuff he was doing. If she truly was opposed to his involvement with drugs, it stands to reason she wouldn't have been carrying, selling, or helping HF in those pursuits in any way that night.

So some part of the picture being imagined doesn't fit.

I'm not saying she was selling drugs or anything but who said she wanted him to stop?

 

[suzyjackson]

Also....I would sit in jail for 99 years before I would give up someone who is capable of harming my family. Even, if I were completely innocent (which I don't believe EA is). IMO MOO JMO

Wow, that's a really difficult thought, I hadn't considered that at all, thanks for articulating that for me

 

[SteveS]

He posted to her page because it would get the most immediate attention from people who knew her. Housemates, SOs, family members often have the passwords. Also people use other people's computers sometimes to connect with their page. Often computers are set to automatically save lots of stuff, including user names and passwords. I do not find what he did either illogical or sinister.

To add to those ideas, it's quite possible that her FB account was always logged in on her/their computer, and needed no password to access and post from. His ability to post on her page may have required nothing more than the knowledge of how to go to the internet FB site, type words into the box, and hit send.

 

[Quailfoot]

Their hands are pretty much tied. Her DNA is on his trunk. What their son did is not their fault. Don't blame them. I think the personal attacks against the Arochis are down and dirty and shameful.

Crazy, too. They weren't even in town that weekend....even though we had the earlier speculation that they were involved. People here...crazy.

They have been in the United States for about a dozen years, no crime spot on any of the family except for the cell phone thing, and people expect them to know what to do when their son is arrested? How could they know?

I'd bet they have less understanding of the criminal justice system than even most American citizens. They're so confused about what to do that they've hired this Accion America to speak for them. I doubt either of the parents could have even a short conversation with anyone in English.

They're confused and scared, I'm sure. And, people are asking why they aren't more vocal? Come on.

I'd only have been suspicious of them if their son had headed back to Mexico before his arrest. Seriously, you guys, look back. The mom let the investigators in the house, no problem. They took their son to talk to the investigators on another occasion. What is it the Arochi family haters really think his parents can do?

 

[daisytrail]

FWIW I've always got the feeling that she was into him way more that he was into her which would fit with this.

He's a very good looking guy. He's got that cute badass look that young women sometimes go for.

 

[Quailfoot]

I think this is a great point, and one I had never thought of. There's a massive assumption here that CM was dealing drugs or muling (ie carrying from dealer to buyer/user) that night, and was helping in the sale and distribution of narcotics.

But that doesn't jive with the idea that she was trying to get HF to stop doing whatever drug stuff he was doing. If she truly was opposed to his involvement with drugs, it stands to reason she wouldn't have been carrying, selling, or helping HF in those pursuits in any way that night.

So some part of the picture being imagined doesn't fit.

What is our evidence that she was actively trying to get him to stop? Someone else's assertion, not her own, right?

And, we have witnesses already testifying that she used the night she disappeared, and possibly was the author of the text asking for "good rock." So, if she's a user, why is trying to get a seller, and probably her main source, to stop?

Again, it's sad that these kids were apparently all mixed up in drugs to one extent or another. It's an angle that puts many different possible angles on what happened that night as well.

 

[frisson]

I thought it was HF's place already. CM moved directly from Aaron Logan Prendergast's home into Hunter's home.

“She was supposed to call her friends that she made it home safely…She never got that phone call,” McElroy said.

http://cw33.com/2014/09/04/police-s...r-woman-who-disappeared-from-shops-at-legacy/

Typo there. Nickerson never received the call that Christina made it home safely. smh!

Thanks. I was wondering bc it would be legally difficult (imo) to kick someone out if they are on the lease (or if married... which they weren't so ok) I'd think someone leaving would have to be mutual if they were both signed on the lease and entitled to be there. Not saying that that happened. Just thinking out loud.

 

[daisytrail]

I hope. You would think they would have checked Christina's car before they let the security guard get in it and her dad drive it home. Oh yeah, he had CM's passwords too. Wonder if HF gave those to him?

Yep, you would have thought LE would have taped that whole garage area off as a crime scene.... Did they?

This sort of thing so infuriates me that I can hardly bear to address it in a civilized manner, so I will just leave it there. Needless to say, there are things that should have been done that weren't.

 

[Quailfoot]

:ditto: Waiting for the trial..... See you on the dark side of the moon. fftobed:

Just waiting for the Grand Jury to convene could take us toward that side of the moon, no?

 

[jennapuppy]

Also....I would sit in jail for 99 years before I would give up someone who is capable of harming my family. Even, if I were completely innocent (which I don't believe EA is). IMO MOO JMO

If I were that fearful that an individual or group could harm my family, I think I would want LE to know everything, and would ask their help in protecting me and my family. I guess that sort of thing happens if you're mixed up with the Aryn Brotherhood or a drug cartel - and if this involves a drug cartel, the feds have been making major busts. Seems like EA could be very useful to them if that were the case. Just thinking out loud here. MOO

 

[zippixx]

I hope. You would think they would have checked Christina's car before they let the security guard get in it and her dad drive it home. Oh yeah, he had CM's passwords too. Wonder if HF gave those to him?

Yep, you would have thought LE would have taped that whole garage area off as a crime scene.... Did they?

There was no proof of a crime at the time.. only a missing adult person. But, I know what you mean..

 

[daisytrail]

Which is really weird that he never told people "quit looking for the camera it's here"
Doesn't change anything in the case. Nothing monumental. But just another example of him being dumb/careless.

No one has been convicted of being a drug dealer --- yet. However, I think I can say this and still be within TOS: Someone who is successful in that sort of business would have been over everything a housemate owned to make certain that there was nothing to threaten the business and incriminate them (concerning drugs, not murder!) with a fine toothed-comb. Anything on that camera that would have shown any connections that could have hurt said dealer -- on a camera, say -- would have been gone! Ditto, computer! Dumb drug dealer is a ridiculous idea. Dumb drug dealers get caught really quick and they put everyone they are connected with (concerning drugs) at risk. Callousness is part of the business.

 

[Momoffourboys]

If I were that fearful that an individual or group could harm my family, I think I would want LE to know everything, and would ask their help in protecting me and my family. I guess that sort of thing happens if you're mixed up with the Aryn Brotherhood or a drug cartel - and if this involves a drug cartel. the feds have been making major busts. Seems like EA could be very useful to them if that were the case. Just thinking out loud here. MOO

Yeah, I guess we see things differently.
I know, all too well, LE's strengths and weaknesses when it comes to cartels/mafia/organized crime.
I would take my sentence and keep my mouth shut. Especially...if I were involved and was to blame for my family's life being in jeopardy. IMO

 

[SteveS]

I'm not saying she was selling drugs or anything but who said she wanted him to stop?

That was the story given as to why their relationship was on rocky ground. I'm not saying it was true, just that it was offered as part of the supposedly-known background to the events of that night (and following). (Heck, she might have been Mrs Big, and HF just her helper in the drug trade, for all I know personally about her.)

 

[daisytrail]

If I were that fearful that an individual or group could harm my family, I think I would want LE to know everything, and would ask their help in protecting me and my family. I guess that sort of thing happens if you're mixed up with the Aryn Brotherhood or a drug cartel - and if this involves a drug cartel. the feds have been making major busts. Seems like EA could be very useful to them if that were the case. Just thinking out loud here. MOO

The cartels are an interesting thought, but somehow I just can't see Arochi (or what he might know) being of much value to them one way or another. HF, on the other hand . . .

 

[frisson]

:desert:
I haven't seen any of those people post... DONDE estas?

Estoy aqui, amiga!

I just cant say much since the TOS are pretty narrow about who can be sleuthed... at this time. When things change, more can be said without breaking the rules.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Yeah, I know how the TV shows and movies and such all go, but I don't see EA as being some sort of "noble and martyred protector of his family" or there being some sort of "mysterious evil person lurking in the shadows" here. I think if there was some boogeyman who would kill his family out there and sweating out EA's ability to keep his mouth shut, they'd have simply made him disappear as well in his 4 months before he went to jail.

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