GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #35 *Arrest*

[SteveS]

I guess we can only hope that once the Grand Jury indicts him, then he starts talking...

And I'm right in thinking the GJ will be end of Feb beginning of March?

GENERAL CONCEPTS
1 We have no idea when the GJ convenes. LE has one very broad limit.
2 The broad limit is, LE has to have an indictment by a deadline, or else they must release EA from jail.
3 Deadlines vary, depending on the type of crime, but my understanding is that they have until mid-June in this case.
4 The GJ for this matter is convened and hears testimony at the sole discretion of LE. LE, not a judge, determines the start, time, speed, the length, frequency of presenting testimony, etc.. FWIW, the grand jurors will probably hear a slew of stuff that no one else will ever hear.
5 The GJ could have (and likely has) already started hearing witnesses and evidence. It's private, it can be intermittent, and no one would know besides the people involved (judge, LE, jurors, witnesses).
6 The GJ can be used to compel testimony under oath without cross-examination, so it can be an investigative tool. For example, LE may use it to get sworn testimony that might help find CM, say by making the Arochi's answer questions.
7 However, until there is an indictment, the defense has no right to know what they are investigating or what they have found already. So LE may wish to look for more evidence for a while, use the GJ as an investigative tool, and drag their feet on an indictment, in order to keep their discoveries secret.
8 I have to believe that the GJ testimony, and investigation, is being used to (also) dig out evidence for a murder case, without any interference from defense. LE has super-wide latitude in a GJ proceeding.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
Yes, CM's family has said that there will be an indictment around the end of this month. But, we have no way to know what they have based that on - LE may have said exactly that, hinted at something like that, or said "It can take 2 or 3 months from the arrest" after which the family drew their own timeline. As I noted earlier, the time frame is fully up to LE, and based on the evidence we have already seen, imo they would have no problem getting an indictment as quickly as they wanted to.

If they want to do so quickly, that is.

LE's limits are "now to mid-June" and they can probably pretty much pick the day to ask for an indictment, and get one.

 

[daisytrail]

GENERAL CONCEPTS
1 We have no idea when the GJ convenes. LE has one very broad limit.
2 The broad limit is, LE has to have an indictment by a deadline, or else they must release EA from jail.
3 Deadlines vary, depending on the type of crime, but my understanding is that they have until mid-June in this case.
4 The GJ for this matter is convened and hears testimony at the sole discretion of LE. LE, not a judge, determines the start, time, speed, the length, frequency of presenting testimony, etc.. FWIW, the grand jurors will probably hear a slew of stuff that no one else will ever hear.
5 The GJ could have (and likely has) already started hearing witnesses and evidence. It's private, it can be intermittent, and no one would know besides the people involved (judge, LE, jurors, witnesses).
6 The GJ can be used to compel testimony under oath without cross-examination, so it can be an investigative tool. For example, LE may use it to get sworn testimony that might help find CM, say by making the Arochi's answer questions.
7 However, until there is an indictment, the defense has no right to know what they are investigating or what they have found already. So LE may wish to look for more evidence for a while, use the GJ as an investigative tool, and drag their feet on an indictment, in order to keep their discoveries secret.
8 I have to believe that the GJ testimony, and investigation, is being used to (also) dig out evidence for a murder case, without any interference from defense. LE has super-wide latitude in a GJ proceeding.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
Yes, CM's family has said that there will be an indictment around the end of this month. But, we have no way to know what they have based that on - LE may have said exactly that, hinted at something like that, or said "It can take 2 or 3 months from the arrest" after which the family drew their own timeline. As I noted earlier, the time frame is fully up to LE, and based on the evidence we have already seen, imo they would have no problem getting an indictment as quickly as they wanted to.

If they want to do so quickly, that is.

LE's limits are "now to mid-June" and they can probably pretty much pick the day to ask for an indictment, and get one.

Grand juries are strange. Can't EA just invoke the 5th?

I have a friend whose daughter was murdered. Someone one of the killers confided in came forward and her daughter's body was found. The whole thing was a grueling and lengthy process for her. Even though she had a victim advocate, the LE told her very little. She also testified as to why she thought her daughter was missing in the first place. The defense attorney tried to put her daughter's reputation on trial and taunted my friend about why she did not know what her daughter was up to. (She went clubbing, so of course she must have asked to be raped, horrifically tortured and murdered.) This is over ten years past and my friend has never gotten over her daughter's death. She actually had to check herself into a mental hospital to keep from killing herself. I am sort of a rule of law person and I want LE to go by the book. However, there is no way really to make this hell less painful for the family. My heart just goes out to Christina's family. There is no right was to have a missing child. There is no right way to be the mother or father of a murdered child. I try to remember that. Even as I am curious about Christina's life and her choices, I try to remember that she is her mother's baby.

 

[BaeMomma]

JMO
I do not believe LE knows what happened.

I don't think ANYONE knows what happened, except for EA. And since he's a compulsive liar, it's likely no one will EVER know what happened either. LE doesn't need to know what happened 100%, just that EA agg. kidnapped her and they have the evidence to back up their "thoery".

That's how cases come to a close, evidence paints the pictures. Not lies, assumptions, speculation or conspiracies.

Can you imagine IF LE knew what happened?! I wish they did.

 

[SteveS]

Can't EA just invoke the 5th?

I probably wasn't clear enough here. EA would have no obligation to testify for a GJ, and LE probably wouldn't even ask him to do so. If they did, and assuming he didn't want to testify, he would just invoke his 5th amendment right and be done.

But assuming they had nothing to do with the actual crimes, the rest of the Arochi's cannot use the 5th to keep from telling what they know, about EA and his actions, even if they would rather keep quiet. Maybe they have some clues about what he might have done with CM, or where she might be. This is a good way to get them to talk, and to do so knowing that the penalty of perjury hanging over their heads if they don't tell the truth.

 

[BaeMomma]

It appears from the various sources that the witness of the ex coworker talking about bruising and the bite mark was part of the warrent/one of the causes to execute the warrant..jmo. I guess it would depend on the credibility of the witness who is the ex co-worker. Either way he appeared to be pretty beat up which is curious. /shrug

You're correct. One very reputable reporter, BF interviewed the actual Sprint employee who told her about his physical injuries and demeanor the following day. TOS encourages us to discuss MSM reporting, LE testimony, LE press conferences and legal documents. I find MSM useful and thorough. The links you've posted are national media outlets, not some blog from an unknown person or other pseudo science tales. I've yet to find one written (reputable) MSM report or LE doc discuss some drug gang kidnapping, hold for ransom, handoff, sex trade, underground conspiracies type of situation.

I just cannot follow along that path, as I see you're not either.

 

[zippixx]

You're correct. One very reputable reporter, BF interviewed the actual Sprint employee who told her about his physical injuries and demeanor the following day. TOS encourages us to discuss MSM reporting, LE testimony, LE press conferences and legal documents. I find MSM useful and thorough. The links you've posted are national media outlets, not some blog from an unknown person or other pseudo science tales. I've yet to find one written (reputable) MSM report or LE doc discuss some drug gang kidnapping, hold for ransom, handoff, sex trade, underground conspiracies type of situation.

I just cannot follow along that path, as I see you're not either.

Nah.. I can't go down that path either.. I'm of the "KISS" mentality. CM: wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person..

 

[windrower]

Grand juries are strange. Can't EA just invoke the 5th?

I have a friend whose daughter was murdered. Someone one of the killers confided in came forward and her daughter's body was found. The whole thing was a grueling and lengthy process for her. Even though she had a victim advocate, the LE told her very little. She also testified as to why she thought her daughter was missing in the first place. The defense attorney tried to put her daughter's reputation on trial and taunted my friend about why she did not know what her daughter was up to. (She went clubbing, so of course she must have asked to be raped, horrifically tortured and murdered.) This is over ten years past and my friend has never gotten over her daughter's death. She actually had to check herself into a mental hospital to keep from killing herself. I am sort of a rule of law person and I want LE to go by the book. However, there is no way really to make this hell less painful for the family. My heart just goes out to Christina's family. There is no right was to have a missing child. There is no right way to be the mother or father of a murdered child. I try to remember that. Even as I am curious about Christina's life and her choices, I try to remember that she is her mother's baby.

daisytrail, you are wise in ways I know you would rather not be. Thank you for being courageous in thought and caring for Christina's family--my heart goes out to all of you with a missing loved one. May our drive for answers be partnered with compassion.

 

[Happyshoes]

IM right there with you.
Have some horror stories of my own.

With you girls, even though I'm probably older - I was lucky I escaped some things because I was naïve and trusting. Sorry for your experience, heather.scissorhands and Eileen.

 

[Happyshoes]

daisytrail, you are wise in ways I know you would rather not be. Thank you for being courageous in thought and caring for Christina's family--my heart goes out to all of you with a missing loved one. May our drive for answers be partnered with compassion.

Love this, thanks for echoing my thoughts. Total compassion for you daisytrail. I think a lot of us have stories but none more heartbreaking than where your child is missing, possibly murdered. Hugsssssssssssssss.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I bet LE has found some interesting searches on EA property..

 

[MIKAYOYO]

You're correct. One very reputable reporter, BF interviewed the actual Sprint employee who told her about his physical injuries and demeanor the following day. TOS encourages us to discuss MSM reporting, LE testimony, LE press conferences and legal documents. I find MSM useful and thorough. The links you've posted are national media outlets, not some blog from an unknown person or other pseudo science tales. I've yet to find one written (reputable) MSM report or LE doc discuss some drug gang kidnapping, hold for ransom, handoff, sex trade, underground conspiracies type of situation.

I just cannot follow along that path, as I see you're not either.

I wouldn't say BF is reputable. Lived in D/FW all my life and never heard of her til this case. Not knocking BF, she's a great ally to Christina's family.

I don't follow the cartel or sex trade theories either, but I know at one point JM herself felt that may have been an option.

Regarding the co-worker, yes, it's MSM that he/she said they saw a bitemark, but I think some are saying it has not been CONFIRMED by LE as in they did not see it and report it. Not saying they didn't see it, just saying it hasn't been CONFIRMED by LE to be a bitemark. MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I bet LE has found some interesting searches on EA property..

What do you mean? Like internet searches?

ETA If you mean Internet searches, I think we can all attest we would be doomed if LE saw our own Google searches....

 

[windrower]

Please bear with me. My theories posted below are just that, my thoughts and ramblings and trying to get back to basics--where is Christina?--with the limited info we have, and trusting that the whys and hows and drugs or no drugs will all be answered in due time. Yes, I'm curious. But honestly, I'd rather Christina be found first, and all the other stuff come after. (And I realize some of you think the drugs and other people have a bearing on where she is, but for this post, I'm assuming they do not, that the drugs are a tangent, and that EA alone is responsible for where Christina is.)

Question for those familiar with SRT: does the fact EA passed the Custer gantry mean he exited onto 121 just past Custer Road?

I'm trying to get my mind wrapped around the timeline and map (thank you so very much, catpatrol, I finally got it all printed out!), and thinking about places Christina could be.

It looks like the exit off SRT at Alma puts you almost immediately near some wooded areas, and from the map, appear to be accessible by gravel roads or two-tracks.

I wish I were near the area, because I like to think I could drive these roads and streets, and try to figure out how it all fits together with the timeline. I have a couple of theories, but haven't figured out if they make sense in the physical world given the details we know.

Since CM's phone activity ceased at the garage, I think she left the garage in the trunk of EA's car. If an altercation in the garage killed her, then I think EA would have been frantic to get her out of his trunk, somewhere, anywhere, fast--so that's one time frame; if it didn't kill her, then they had another altercation somewhere which did result in her death, after which he would have been frantic to get her out of his trunk at that time, which is another time frame.

Theory 1: Christina was dead after garage altercation (he hit her with fist/car door/car/?, maybe she fell against the pillar in the garage, leaving some kind of evidence. He left garage, hid CM (exiting SRT at Alma, going to a wooded area, perhaps damaging his car in the process of the hiding), and returned to the Shops area to get rid of CM's belongings close to her car. Her phone pinged as it was going dead, then his pinged as he was leaving the area to head home. After he got home, he had to get to cleaning the trunk, because any odor was going to intensify after the day got hot.

I also like Theory 1 because it has EA hiding CM before it gets light, which I think would be a big consideration for most people.

Theory 2: CM was unconscious leaving the garage, with a deadly confrontation elsewhere (same as above, exiting at Alma, going to wooded area, perhaps damaging EA's car during this time). EA returned to the Shops area to leave CM close to her car, but maybe there was activity or he got spooked about something, and he got out of there and headed home. Picked up cleaning supplies, maybe garbage bags, who knows what all, and took off from home with CM in the trunk to hide her remains somewhere more remote than in Theory 1. At some point, he may have returned home to clean up for work, since the Arochi home trash pulls by LE MAY have given up some evidence.

There are a few locations I think are possible for hiding a body with Theory 1, but I haven't had time to look thoroughly at the map and determine likely locations with Theory 2. Perhaps someone local has some ideas? And I do know this can be likened to looking for a needle in a haystack. What I am hoping is that LE has many more phone pings, GPS data, surveillance footage, etc. that gives a clearer picture than I see.

So very easy to hide a body, but I also believe the universe helps to solve cases just like this. Get more thoughts and ideas swirling around, and something substantial is likely to come to the surface.

JMO

 

[daisytrail]

Theory 2: CM was unconscious leaving the garage, with a deadly confrontation elsewhere (same as above, exiting at Alma, going to wooded area, perhaps damaging EA's car during this time). EA returned to the Shops area to leave CM close to her car, but maybe there was activity or he got spooked about something, and he got out of there and headed home. Picked up cleaning supplies, maybe garbage bags, who knows what all, and took off from home with CM in the trunk to hide her remains somewhere more remote than in Theory 1. At some point, he may have returned home to clean up for work, since the Arochi home trash pulls by LE MAY have given up some evidence.

JMO

I have considered that Christina might only have been unconscious leaving the garage. I can see her becoming unconscious and EA thinks he may have an opportunity to carry her off, have sex with her, and then bring her back. I can see him doing something like that and maybe being foolish enough to think he can get away with. What stops me here is that she took Adderall, and Adderall is very much a stimulant. I cannot see her falling asleep, which leaves force as the other alternative.

About whether or not she died at the garage: Here I have to be aware of my own bias. I want to think that she suffered as little as possible. I think most of us do. Going against my own wish, I actually think she was in the passenger seat alive and well, which would have meant that she was willing to go somewhere with EA. Perhaps he convinced her that he was fitter to drive. Who knows? I think EA cleaned out the car so well in the interior that nothing from her showed up when LE went over the passenger area. I believe she probably died elsewhere than the garage.

 

[zippixx]

Please bear with me. My theories posted below are just that, my thoughts and ramblings and trying to get back to basics--where is Christina?--with the limited info we have, and trusting that the whys and hows and drugs or no drugs will all be answered in due time. Yes, I'm curious. But honestly, I'd rather Christina be found first, and all the other stuff come after. (And I realize some of you think the drugs and other people have a bearing on where she is, but for this post, I'm assuming they do not, that the drugs are a tangent, and that EA alone is responsible for where Christina is.)

Question for those familiar with SRT: does the fact EA passed the Custer gantry mean he exited onto 121 just past Custer Road?

I'm trying to get my mind wrapped around the timeline and map (thank you so very much, catpatrol, I finally got it all printed out!), and thinking about places Christina could be.

It looks like the exit off SRT at Alma puts you almost immediately near some wooded areas, and from the map, appear to be accessible by gravel roads or two-tracks.

I wish I were near the area, because I like to think I could drive these roads and streets, and try to figure out how it all fits together with the timeline. I have a couple of theories, but haven't figured out if they make sense in the physical world given the details we know.

Since CM's phone activity ceased at the garage, I think she left the garage in the trunk of EA's car. If an altercation in the garage killed her, then I think EA would have been frantic to get her out of his trunk, somewhere, anywhere, fast--so that's one time frame; if it didn't kill her, then they had another altercation somewhere which did result in her death, after which he would have been frantic to get her out of his trunk at that time, which is another time frame.

Theory 1: Christina was dead after garage altercation (he hit her with fist/car door/car/?, maybe she fell against the pillar in the garage, leaving some kind of evidence. He left garage, hid CM (exiting SRT at Alma, going to a wooded area, perhaps damaging his car in the process of the hiding), and returned to the Shops area to get rid of CM's belongings close to her car. Her phone pinged as it was going dead, then his pinged as he was leaving the area to head home. After he got home, he had to get to cleaning the trunk, because any odor was going to intensify after the day got hot.

I also like Theory 1 because it has EA hiding CM before it gets light, which I think would be a big consideration for most people.

Theory 2: CM was unconscious leaving the garage, with a deadly confrontation elsewhere (same as above, exiting at Alma, going to wooded area, perhaps damaging EA's car during this time). EA returned to the Shops area to leave CM close to her car, but maybe there was activity or he got spooked about something, and he got out of there and headed home. Picked up cleaning supplies, maybe garbage bags, who knows what all, and took off from home with CM in the trunk to hide her remains somewhere more remote than in Theory 1. At some point, he may have returned home to clean up for work, since the Arochi home trash pulls by LE MAY have given up some evidence.

There are a few locations I think are possible for hiding a body with Theory 1, but I haven't had time to look thoroughly at the map and determine likely locations with Theory 2. Perhaps someone local has some ideas? And I do know this can be likened to looking for a needle in a haystack. What I am hoping is that LE has many more phone pings, GPS data, surveillance footage, etc. that gives a clearer picture than I see.

So very easy to hide a body, but I also believe the universe helps to solve cases just like this. Get more thoughts and ideas swirling around, and something substantial is likely to come to the surface.

JMO

Basically with theory 2, EA has to make the decision "Do I take a chance of a rape/assault charge, where it's her word against mine & I'll just dump her unconscious body for someone else to find? I could say she attacked me.." OR "Do I just kill her & take a chance with a murder/kidnapping charge? Hmm, and I'm the last person to be seen with her"..

Personally IMO, I don't believe she was ever "just" unconscious..

Of course I realize who we are talking about here.. he hasn't proven to be too bright, with many of his actions & probably had no logical thought process... But that doesn't help with your question of "where is she?".. and yes, it is trying to find a needle...

 

[SteveS]

Question for those familiar with SRT: does the fact EA passed the Custer gantry mean he exited onto 121 just past Custer Road?

I'm trying to get my mind wrapped around the timeline and map (thank you so very much, catpatrol, I finally got it all printed out!), and thinking about places Christina could be.

"...does the fact EA passed the Custer gantry mean he exited onto 121 just past Custer Road?"

Nope. It means he was on 121 and headed E/NE on 121 just past Custer ...but it offers no indication at all as to where he exited 121. That gantry is the very last toll-taking point.

He could have exited at the very next exit, of course. Or he could have gone all the way to Hwy 75 and turned south. Or exited anywhere in-between. In theory, he could have gone even farther than Hwy 75, except for the limiting fact that he was back at the Shops area by around 4:45, and perhaps even earlier, so time-wise it is not likely he went farther NE than that.

One thing to realize: LE may already know more or less exactly where he exited, and every street he took. So far, they have told of a few pieces of ping evidence, necessary to support their thinking in affidavits or in court. But they have tons more, no doubt, and the only limiters we have are as to a certain "ping off of this tower by that phone." LE likely has dozens or even hundreds of additional ping data on the phones of EA, CM, and probably many others as well. We have only seen the tip of the iceberg.

 

[BaeMomma]

I wouldn't say BF is reputable. Lived in D/FW all my life and never heard of her til this case. Not knocking BF, she's a great ally to Christina's family.

I don't follow the cartel or sex trade theories either, but I know at one point JM herself felt that may have been an option.

Regarding the co-worker, yes, it's MSM that he/she said they saw a bitemark, but I think some are saying it has not been CONFIRMED by LE as in they did not see it and report it. Not saying they didn't see it, just saying it hasn't been CONFIRMED by LE to be a bitemark. MOO

So are you going to theorize on only what's confirmed now? That's what I try to do, by way of BOTH reputable MSM and LE sources. Nothing more nothing less.

Star Local (and their reporters) is a Collin County community news source, they aren't as big as CBS, NBC or the like but a reputable news source. Do you disagree?

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I will theorize on what I think. If you go back and re-read my post, I was commenting on why some considered the bite mark hearsay.

And yes, I absolutely disagree regarding BF and Collin County Community News being reputable. They may be reputable to those living in Collin County. Again, I'm not knocking BF, as I said so in my post. Just saying she's not Emmy winning news and not considered reputable. IMO But I think it's awesome that she's so close to this story and as I said so in my post, a great ally for CM's family. JMO

 

[SteveS]

It appears from the various sources that the witness of the ex coworker talking about bruising and the bite mark was part of the warrent/one of the causes to execute the warrant..jmo. I guess it would depend on the credibility of the witness who is the ex co-worker. Either way he appeared to be pretty beat up which is curious. /shrug

You're correct. One very reputable reporter, BF interviewed the actual Sprint employee who told her about his physical injuries and demeanor the following day.

You guys are right. There's no question that there's evidence EA had a bite mark on his arm. Probably happened when EA was trying to put her IN HIS TRUNK and abduct her, which we know he did, and was probably the same event caused him to be bruised and looking like crap when he came to work on Saturday. Didn't we also hear he was walking with a bad limp too, maybe she kicked him in the nether regions? Hope so. Go Christina!

 

[Gigglingtoes]

What do you mean? Like internet searches?

ETA If you mean Internet searches, I think we can all attest we would be doomed if LE saw our own Google searches....

Are you implying his searches don't matter? because I'm fairly certain he doesn't frequent Websleuths as a reason for some things one would be looking up as a reason for the type of searches I'm thinking of.