GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

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  • #141
SeeAlice, this is in response to your post regarding this case and drugs. WS will not allow me to reply to it. YES! A thousand times yes. If I may add to that, we need to teach our daughters that any man is not better than no man. Christina, you deserved better than that gun waving, drugged out dealer of a boyfriend. You deserved good friends, the kind that tell you no when you're wrong and cheer you when you do well. We must teach our daughters that who they are is better said through the people you surround yourself with than the purse you carry. That Mo Money means nothing when you're surrounded by scum. You had such promise and that breaks my heart.

I don't think that there is any way to know what Christina may or may not have been taught by her family, but family alone is not the sole instructor of youth. Many factors, some of them actually heritable, go into human behavior and human "choices."
 
  • #142
This thought occurred to me a few days ago. I don't see EA driving for very long or very far with Christina in the trunk. If he had quite a bit to drink he might be concerned about getting pulled over. (I've had 2 friends who were hit by drunk drivers, both between 0600 and 0700 in the morning.) It was going to be daylight soon and that would mean a greater chance of being seen and also limit his options as to where to go. If she was still in the trunk at approximately 0530 when he was near his home, I can't see him going beyond 0600 or 0630 with her in the trunk. Just my gut feeling.

I believe there is a strong possibility she's been missed. It's happened before even with dogs involved in the search.


Bingo!

I don't see him going far either!
 
  • #143
Yes .. what is so hard to grasp ... Common sense .. and Rights.

I see a few scenarios playing out in this unfortunate situation and will not be surprised... time will tell.
The clock speeds up for some and slows to a sloth crawl for others. IMO

What rights and whose rights do you feel are being violated, in accordance with the law? Since LE knows about the picketing, it must surely be a legal activity.
 
  • #144
Why did she send HF away from the scene to the OK area?
Why did all the communications these young ones had suddenly stop for four days? Hmmmm

jmo

I'm not sure it did stop. I don't think we know who tried to call/text CM and when. The communication from her is what stopped. Unfortunately, her friends didn't act on not hearing from her for days, but I don't think it has been released yet on who tried communicating with her and when. IIRC we've only seen her records from the time she went missing (the screenshot from the ID show), not the days after...
 
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I'm not sure it did stop. I don't think we know who tried to call/text CM and when. The communication from her is what stopped. Unfortunately, her friends didn't act on not hearing from her for days, but I don't think it has been released yet on who tried communicating with her and when. IIRC we've only seen her records from the time she went missing (the screenshot from the ID show), not the days after...

We've heard that CM was longtime friends with most of the people she was with that night, so you'd think they would've contacted one of her parents before then. If Jonni had a FB account, I'd be surprised if she wasn't FB "friends" with some of them, making it even easier & more likely they'd be in touch. How long ago did she move to OK?
 
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How many searches did tex equ do ?
 
  • #149
We've heard that CM was longtime friends with most of the people she was with that night, so you'd think they would've contacted one of her parents before then. If Jonni had a FB account, I'd be surprised if she wasn't FB "friends" with some of them, making it even easier & more likely they'd be in touch. How long ago did she move to OK?

I think she had known them for a long time but was geographocally no longer close to them so I don't think we're talking about a situation where it would necassarily have raised alarm bells when they didn't hear from her straight after the party night.

JMO
 
  • #150
How many searches did tex equ do ?
I just recall that one was conducted soon after Christina disappeared. I'm fairly certain that some members have been helping with searches. They may choose to simply be more covert in Christina's case if the thought is that EA could get help from someone who is not presently incarcerated.

BTW, I'm getting a vibe that some would like to discount the work of TES. Really?? That seems silly to me. Whether the volunteer group finds many or few, how is that hurting anyone or creating stress?
 
  • #151
I just recall that one was conducted soon after Christina disappeared. I'm fairly certain that some members have been helping with searches. They may choose to simply be more covert in Christina's case if the thought is that EA could get help from someone who is not presently incarcerated.

BTW, I'm getting a vibe that some would like to discount the work of TES. Really?? That seems silly to me. Whether the volunteer group finds many or few, how is that hurting anyone or creating stress?

Like I said, they are good at getting publicity, raising awareness, etc., but IMO, if someone happens across a dead body, they're going to call LE anyway, regardless of publicity.
 
  • #152
I just recall that one was conducted soon after Christina disappeared. I'm fairly certain that some members have been helping with searches. They may choose to simply be more covert in Christina's case if the thought is that EA could get help from someone who is not presently incarcerated.

BTW, I'm getting a vibe that some would like to discount the work of TES. Really?? That seems silly to me. Whether the volunteer group finds many or few, how is that hurting anyone or creating stress?

Actually it wasn't to discredit TES. There were other things going on. LOL cant really explain.

Everyone appreciates the search groups.

I only remember one also!
 
  • #153
I just recall that one was conducted soon after Christina disappeared. I'm fairly certain that some members have been helping with searches. They may choose to simply be more covert in Christina's case if the thought is that EA could get help from someone who is not presently incarcerated.

BTW, I'm getting a vibe that some would like to discount the work of TES. Really?? That seems silly to me. Whether the volunteer group finds many or few, how is that hurting anyone or creating stress?
TES raised some eyebrows in other cases and had their share of conflict in the past which some people can't ignore. The group as a whole is an amazing tool in finding missing persons, but sometimes the leadership comes into question.

bbm
 
  • #154
I guess we wait for trial!
They said they found unknown male DNA in his car and it would take a few weeks to get the results I was wondering
if they had the results is all.

IMO they should have had EA's dna when they took his car and did the forensics on it.
to me its strange they didn't to rule out his known DNA and any unknown DNA
I wonder if they found any strange fingerprints in there.


IMO there is a lot being unsaid here!
Unfortunately, as ridiculous as it sounds...PPD did not have EA's DNA on file already to compare and the unknown male DNA is suspected to be EA's. It was mentioned at the last hearing.
 
  • #155
Indeed ^^

Lets hope some ppl have gotten better w age ;)
TES raised some eyebrows in other cases and had their share of conflict in the past which some people can't ignore. The group as a whole is an amazing tool in finding missing persons, but sometimes the leadership comes into question.

bbm
 
  • #156
TES raised some eyebrows in other cases and had their share of conflict in the past which some people can't ignore. The group as a whole is an amazing tool in finding missing persons, but sometimes the leadership comes into question.

bbm
TY, I didn't think that anyone would have a problem with a volunteer group. I'll have to do a little looking around to see if I can find why.
 
  • #157
In My Opinion ( Personal and Professional ), family should never be the ones leading the searches or out there searching. Do any of you want your last memory or picture of your loved one to be a decomposed body, bones scattered by animals, mutilated corpse? You can say all you want that , that won't be what you think of, but trust me you do. No matter what your mind goes to the suffering your loved one went through and that image will always come up. Most people never make it back from that. Their lives are forever devastated and their nights when they do sleep is filled with nightmares. There are other things family members can do instead of being on the searches. Once again this is my opinion, personal and professional. I felt like this needed to be said, so don't snark me, be rude, bash or whatever. On this I do know what I talk about. My concern is the well being of the loved ones.

Peace, love , blessing Ciao, Merry part ;)
I agree and when I was saying I wanted the family to be leading the search...I meant organizing and getting people together to do the searches. Most families opt to stay at the main area to help check people in, do paperwork, do whatever needs to be done, or to simply be there in case anything is found. Jonni searching on her own is her decision, but it would be horrific if she found Christina's remains.
 
  • #158
Has he been back since his RC "drones" went up in September? JMO - allowing the images he gathered to be crowd-sourced would be advisable. I believe there are sufficient numbers of TeamChristina members from outside the area who would love to assist in a project such as this.

I agree with Eileen. If the perp is in jail, why is there any need to continue keeping the searched areas a secret now? Is there any legitimate reason for Tim Miller to insist on all of this secrecy?
It would be a huge step in the right direction to have Tomnod pair with TES during searches. I don't know if TES alone could afford to set up something like Tomnod does, but working together would be a great idea. Someone should bring it up to TES. *hint hint*
 
  • #159
TY, I didn't think that anyone would have a problem with a volunteer group. I'll have to do a little looking around to see if I can find why.
It isn't a big secret or anything. During HaLeigh Cummings' case, Tim tried to set up covert operations to catch Misty in lies and it turned into quite a fiasco which eventually led to his own"snitch" going to jail because she was giving drugs to Misty. There are many other situations where Tim's decisions have been in question, imo. I still regard TES a fantastic group of people who can and do bring the missing home. They have been effective and their record is astounding. Sometimes their tactics leave a bit to be desired though.
 
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It isn't a big secret or anything. During HaLeigh Cummings' case, Tim tried to set up covert operations to catch Misty in lies and it turned into quite a fiasco which eventually lead to his own"snitch" going to jail because she was giving drugs to Misty. There are many other situations where Tim's decisions have been in question. I still regard TES a fantastic group of people who can and do bring the missing home. They have been effective and their record is astounding. Sometimes their tactics leave a bit to be desired though.
Interesting, thank you again.
 
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