GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #38 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

I personally don't think it's being clueless or idiotic to wonder if anyone else is involved, but what evidence is there to support that?

LE statement that they haven't ruled anyone out....is this the sole reason (of evidence) for thinking others are involved?

Serious question, WBG I really want to understand.

I think we should all be able to discuss theories, except there is a lot of frustration from both sides when thoughts, inquiries, assumptions aren't fully explained in detail. When they're just thrown out without depth or explanations based on currently known evidence it's not easy to repsond and discuss or accept other points of view.

You're not addressing my post. I pointed out LE indicated EA might not have acted alone.
You tell me!

 

[Doj1234]

From the beginning, one of the issues within the case is that LE made a statement they were still investigating. LE made clear throughout that they haven't ruled anybody out
(beyond the AK charge I guess).

There are many cases when LE proclaims they believe the suspect acted alone.
Therefore, it isn't surprising some of us wonder if anybody else is involved with Christina's disappearance.

For the posters who believe EA acted alone, even though they don't come right out and say it, believe anyone who questions someone else may be involved must be clueless idiots.
How are LE's comments justified or why should we not believe LE?

At least now, it took long enough, EA will be brought to trial on the AK charges.
Hope the trial is scheduled asap so we can all hear all of the evidence LE has gathered.

Woe, you're awesome, I love your posts. But, I'm always impressed with the brainpower on this thread and wouldn't think of anyone as mindless idiots, maybe 'posting while intoxicated' once or twice, lol.

Personally, I have just recently become more entrenched in the lone wolf theory because of a few realizations. First, LE has had EA's computer, phone, car and home searched and I think that they know EA better than he knows himself at this point. There have been no other arrests and as far as I know, no other interviews. I don't think he had help because I don't think he's bright enough to have eliminated incriminating evidence of an associate. Second, I don't think he's the type who falls on the sword easily, so he wouldn't be taking the fall for others.

 

[jennapuppy]

For what purpose though? LE doesn't owe us a thing, okay, but why make a statement regarding suspects at all? To keep everyone on edge and wondering?

Hoping someone would get nervous and go to LE looking for a deal in exchange for telling everything they know about EA's actions that night?

 

[BaeMomma]

You're not addressing my post. I pointed out LE indicated EA might not have acted alone.
You tell me!

Please post a link to supoort this....I've never read where LE indicated EA might not have acted alone. In my response, I acknowledge that LE has always maintained that they have not ruled anyone out.

My question; Is this statement alone the reason why you believe there are others?

 

[cluciano63]

For what purpose though? LE doesn't owe us a thing, okay, but why make a statement regarding suspects at all? To keep everyone on edge and wondering?

IF LE thinks he had someone help with after crime tasks...LE may want it known that they are not done investigating and more arrests could come. They may hope such a person, if he exists, might come forward for fear of being named an accomplice. Or even if someone just knows some details...they might be frightened into coming forward. I think it is a good idea to let certain people wonder what LE might know.

EA being so clueless about his manner of cleaning of car (seen on video, wasn't he?) and being hours late to work are part of what convince me he likely worked alone. Just so, so stupid to be late for work, especially, not to mention when you come in looking like you have been beat up. Everyone is going to notice. And lying about being parked near her. Any sort of a plan involving other people should have been even slightly better handled than this, Imo, even by idiots.

I believe that some people who are not convinced EA is the actual (likely) murderer...are alluding to the possibility of involvement of a certain person we are not to discuss as a POI, but Jmo.

Count me as one who thinks EA did this all by himself and the hash he made of most of it probably reflects his cleverness, Imo. Hiding a body is the easy part...he messed up in every other possible way, just about. Again...JMO.

 

[BaeMomma]

They've always said this is still an ongoing investigation, even yesterday after the indictment was announced. Why would they stop looking for evidence, clues, people, video etc? My take on LE saying, "we have not ruled anyone out" is because they haven't. When they stop looking, the investigation is essentially over, right?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Hoping someone would get nervous and go to LE looking for a deal in exchange for telling everything they know about EA's actions that night?

This seems like a possibility. Wonder if anybody does have more information and did go to LE. Because, other than opinion, how would anybody know EA carried out an attack on CM and what he did to her?

Unless, as suggested above, someone offered observations about EA afterward.
Since there was time in between the crime and his arrest in mid December, could EA have broken down and actually confessed to somebody what he did and what happened?

 

[catpatrol]

If, hypothetically, LE knew that people providing an alibi for EA were lying, they might have said that to scare those people into telling the truth.

 

[jennapuppy]

They've always said this is still an ongoing investigation, even yesterday after the indictment was announced. Why would they stop looking for evidence, clues, people, video etc? My take on LE saying, "we have not ruled anyone out" is because they haven't. When they stop looking, the investigation is essentially over, right?

This has to be an ongoing investigation - especially since Christina hasn't been found. There may be someone out there who has knowledge of where her remains can be found, but they haven't felt the heat yet and come forward with the info.
MOO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Please post a link to supoort this....I've never read where LE indicated EA might not have acted alone. In my response, I acknowledge that LE has always maintained that they have not ruled anyone out.

My question; Is this statement alone the reason why you believe there are others?

You're right, I don't think LE stated "EA may not have acted alone".
LE didn't use EA's name. LE stated, at least awhile back, that others may be involved.
Yesterday LE stated they are continuing to investigate.
We know everyone is still searching for CM, so the case isn't solved (obviously).

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If, hypothetically, LE knew that people providing an alibi for EA were lying, they might have said that to scare those people into telling the truth.

Yes and true, because there's that crime of hindering an investigation if anyone is holding back what they know to help LE solve the case.

 

[BaeMomma]

This has to be an ongoing investigation - especially since Christina hasn't been found. There may be someone out there who has knowledge of where her remains can be found, but they haven't felt the heat yet and come forward with the info.
MOO

Possibly someone else knows. If that's the case, then EA has more compassion and empathy than I give him credit for, for taking all of this on alone. Hes full of answers, that's for sure!

 

[daisytrail]

From the beginning, one of the issues within the case is that LE made a statement they were still investigating. LE made clear throughout that they haven't ruled anybody out
(beyond the AK charge I guess).

There are many cases when LE proclaims they believe the suspect acted alone.
Therefore, it isn't surprising some of us wonder if anybody else is involved with Christina's disappearance.

For the posters who believe EA acted alone, even though they don't come right out and say it, believe anyone who questions someone else may be involved must be clueless idiots. How are LE's comments justified or why should we not believe LE?

At least now, it took long enough, EA will be brought to trial on the AK charges.
Hope the trial is scheduled asap so we can all hear all of the evidence LE has gathered.

That is not my attitude. I always enjoy your posts -- and I am not feeling superior or amused at your expense, I assure you. I have my private opinion of nearly everyone here and I hope I am not rude. Actually, I like most people here and recognize the sincerity of their interest in seeing the person/people who harmed Christina held accountable. Other people who think others may be involved have nothing but my respect. It is just that there is a very small minority who seem to think that EA is framed or somehow innocent that I have problems seeing their logic at all.

 

[daisytrail]

Possibly someone else knows. If that's the case, then EA has more compassion and empathy than I give him credit for, for taking all of this on alone. Hes full of answers, that's for sure!

Yes, possible, but there is only a very small handful of people that I think EA would take it on the chin for and none of them have the initials HF.

Really, to me, the clue is in his character and past is prologue.

 

[jennapuppy]

Possibly someone else knows. If that's the case, then EA has more compassion and empathy than I give him credit for, for taking all of this on alone. Hes full of answers, that's for sure!

I'm thinking more in terms of someone who may have helped him dispose of evidence or even helped to hide her remains after the fact. The actual crime of AK is solely on him.
IMO

 

[BaeMomma]

I agree Daisytrail. That man would pin this entirely on someone else given the slightest chance.. The more I read Gore's comments, as this thing progresses, I'm starting to feel a sense of distance from them as well. It's subtle but it could also be my mind/eyes playing tricks. He has his hands full, I'm sure of that

 

[daisytrail]

This seems like a possibility. Wonder if anybody does have more information and did go to LE. Because, other than opinion, how would anybody know EA carried out an attack on CM and what he did to her?

Unless, as suggested above, someone offered observations about EA afterward.
Since there was time in between the crime and his arrest in mid December, could EA have broken down and actually confessed to somebody what he did and what happened?

I don't actually see him confessing to exactly what happened but if someone became aware that all was not right, I think he might minimize whatever happened as an accident and paint himself an innocent victim of unexpected circumstances.

 

[Eileen730]

That is not my attitude. I always enjoy your posts -- and I am not feeling superior or amused at your expense, I assure you. I have my private opinion of nearly everyone here and I hope I am not rude. Actually, I like most people here and recognize the sincerity of their interest in seeing the person/people who harmed Christina held accountable. Other people who think others may be involved have nothing but my respect. It is just that there is a very small minority who seem to think that EA is framed or somehow innocent that I have problems seeing their logic at all.

I don't think anyone here thinks he is innocent or was framed.
I do think some of us have many questions about what happened to Christina that morning and EA may not have acted alone.
JMO

 

[BaeMomma]

I don't think anyone here thinks he is innocent or was framed.
I do think some of us have many questions about what happened to Christina that morning and EA may not have acted alone.
JMO

Eileen, respectfully, what evidence leads you to believe that EA didn't act alone?

 

[SteveS]

They've always said this is still an ongoing investigation, even yesterday after the indictment was announced. Why would they stop looking for evidence, clues, people, video etc? My take on LE saying, "we have not ruled anyone out" is because they haven't. When they stop looking, the investigation is essentially over, right?

The other day LE did say they are still investigating, but what is being overlooked is that their statement explicitly pertained to preparing for trial against EA. That means the investigating they mentioned will be a quest to find even more evidence against EA, not to prove someone else did the crime.

In theory they could still be looking for others, of course. And even if they aren't, I wouldn't expect them to ever say they've closed that door, because of just in case - in theory EA always could have had an as-yet-unknown accomplice in some act or another, and evidence might pop up somehow.

But when they discovered that CM's DNA was in his TRUNK and arrested him, they gave [what I both then and now believe was] a cursory "we haven't ruled out the possibility of others" at the time -- and, afaik, that's the very last time we've heard even a vague hint of anyone else in the mix. Frankly, I think they fully believe they have The Bad Guy and have been proceeding accordingly.