GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

[Mamamerced]

If he knew anything about real estate, he might have stuffed her in the attic of an abandoned house or other rural property. He might have even put her in a suitcase at some point that morning to move her from his home to another. She only weighed 95 lbs according to one missing poster. I didn't realize he is 6'9" and 175 lbs.

He'd be a toothpick if he was 6'9" and 175 lbs, Boots!

 

[daisytrail]

If he knew anything about real estate, he might have stuffed her in the attic of an abandoned house or other rural property. He might have even put her in a suitcase at some point that morning to move her from his home to another. She only weighed 95 lbs according to one missing poster. I didn't realize he is 6'9" and 175 lbs.

Leaving aside that height, I do wonder if he ever worked around construction, but other than that, don't people in real estate have keys to lockboxes? It may be a stretch but if he knew anyone in real estate and any such keys were around, he might have been able to spend some time with her in a house and then move her body if he feared discovery. It is hard to imagine him being so bold. I know that that is lots of ifs but all those ifs come with our right to speculate.

 

[zippixx]

If he knew anything about real estate, he might have stuffed her in the attic of an abandoned house or other rural property. He might have even put her in a suitcase at some point that morning to move her from his home to another. She only weighed 95 lbs according to one missing poster. I didn't realize he is 6'9" and 175 lbs.

LOL... he's 69" tall (5'-9")

 

[Bootsctr]

He'd be a toothpick if he was 6'9" and 175 lbs, Boots!

:laughing: Yes! 69 inches. 5'9"

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Leaving aside that height, I do wonder if he ever worked around construction, but other than that, don't people in real estate have keys to lockboxes? It may be a stretch but if he knew anyone in real estate and any such keys were around, he might have been able to spend some time with her in a house and then move her body if he feared discovery. It is hard to imagine him being so bold. I know that that is lots of ifs but all those ifs come with our right to speculate.

Yep, if he had ever listed his occupation as a real estate assistant somewhere on the internet, one might think he could have had access to many vacant properties...

But one would have to figure out where that item was posted in order to offer any proof. And one has no idea now, so many months later...

 

[Lolly85x]

Can I ask a question about this emergency release in the trunk of the car, is this a standard thing in Americsn cars? Does everyone readily know about this?

Iv never heard of it, but I am in the UK.

 

[daisytrail]

Yep, if he had ever listed his occupation as a real estate assistant somewhere on the internet, one might think he could have had access to many vacant properties...

But one would have to figure out where that item was posted in order to offer any proof. And one has no idea now, so many months later...

He is originally from Mexico. He has used his mother's maiden name as is customary: Enrique Gutierrez (Arochi).

On would probably also have to look for family connections in real estate or construction. So many teenagers end up working in their parent's businesses or sometimes just off the books. In filing a US tax return, I believe one can treat a child as an employee (up to a point) with the usual tax break when filing for one's company.

ETA: Also Enrique Arochi Gutierrez

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1353720/enrique-arochi-search-warrant.pdf

 

[zippixx]

Can I ask a question about this emergency release in the trunk of the car, is this a standard thing in Americsn cars? Does everyone readily know about this?

Iv never heard of it, but I am in the UK.

Yes, it is the law here that all vehicles must be equipped with the emergency trunk release (I believe as of 2001). The law also requires that the release can be seen & located in the dark.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.401

 

[daisytrail]

Yes, it is the law here that all vehicles must be equipped with the emergency trunk release (I believe as of 2001). The law also requires that the release can be seen & located in the dark.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.401

Is there a light then in the trunk that makes the release visible? Is it easy for the wiring to the light to be dislodged? It has never occurred to me to wonder about such things, probably because someone would have to unload all the books in my trunk to put me in it.

 

[zippixx]

I there a light then in the trunk that makes the release visible? Is it easy for the wiring to the light to be dislodged? It has never occurred to me to wonder about such things, probably because someone would have to unload all the books in my trunk to put me in it.

From the link I posted:

S4.2(a) Each manual release mechanism installed pursuant to S4.1 of this standard must include a feature, like lighting or phosphorescence, that allows the release mechanism to be easily seen inside the closed trunk compartment.
(b) Each automatic release mechanism installed pursuant to S4.1 of this section must unlatch the trunk lid within 5 minutes of when the trunk lid is closed with a person inside the trunk compartment.

Many that I have looked at appear to be "glow-in-the-dark"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.401

 

[Bootsctr]

I there a light then in the trunk that makes the release visible? Is it easy for the wiring to the light to be dislodged? It has never occurred to me to wonder about such things, probably because someone would have to unload all the books in my trunk to put me in it.

Okay, my husband just got in my trunk. The release looks glow in the dark, but mine did not glow. It's white and if you know where it is located it would be easy to find and also just searching blindly in the dark you could find it.

 

[Hatfield]

Okay, my husband just got in my trunk. The release looks glow in the dark, but mine did not glow. It's white and if you know where it is located it would be easy to find and also just searching blindly in the dark you could find it.

Interesting. Tell him we thank him for helping with the experiment.

I had no idea it was a law here in US. Thats good to know. I now need to check my vehicles and learn how to get out of the trunk just in case. LOL

I bet lots of people dont realize that all newer cars have those now. I dont have kids but I would think this would be good information to teach your children about to learn about them. Although it is a catch-22 because once a kid knows about it, they may try to play and lock each other in the trunk and it could be a dangerous thing if Brother Johnny decides to lock sister Sally in the trunk to see if she can get out.

For the automatic ones, Im not sure why the rule would give a full 5 minutes for the automatic ones to work. That seems like a long time. Maybe the automatic ones have a sensor that has to have a period of time to really know the car is not moving before it will automatically pop open the trunk. It is probably something to help prevent it from ever opening while driving or something like that.

 

[Hatfield]

From the link I posted:

S4.2(a) Each manual release mechanism installed pursuant to S4.1 of this standard must include a feature, like lighting or phosphorescence, that allows the release mechanism to be easily seen inside the closed trunk compartment.
(b) Each automatic release mechanism installed pursuant to S4.1 of this section must unlatch the trunk lid within 5 minutes of when the trunk lid is closed with a person inside the trunk compartment.

Many that I have looked at appear to be "glow-in-the-dark"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.401

Thanks for giving the official information about this.

 

[Steleheart]

Okay, my husband just got in my trunk. The release looks glow in the dark, but mine did not glow. It's white and if you know where it is located it would be easy to find and also just searching blindly in the dark you could find it.

Wonderful to know Boots - thank you.


Now let him out please.


I have an SUV so I can't test it. I could ask my daughter at college to check hers but ,,, it's college, and,, nah, not gonna.


MOO

 

[zippixx]

Wonderful to know Boots - thank you.


Now let him out please.


I have an SUV so I can't test it. I could ask my daughter at college to check hers but ,,, it's college, and,, nah, not gonna.


MOO

My car is a hatchback.. My wife's car has a bright orange piece of plastic on the release. I wanted to see if it glowed, but it was like trying to watch the light go out in your fridge...

 

[Psychedelia]

I have a Toyota. Mine's in the trunk and it glows, but it appears to have been taken/cut off from the release. I have no idea why - the guy I bought the car from took really good care of it (and was not sketchy in any way, haha). I'll have to check it out further, JUST IN CASE.

 

[Mountaingazer]

The mechanism to make trunk releases glow varies widely. My old sedan before I needed to upgrade to a minivan was just ridiculous. It worked like those glow in the dark stars you put in kids rooms. So hypothetically it could glow, but it needed to be exposed to daylight for a while to charge up first.

 

[daisytrail]

The mechanism to make trunk releases glow varies widely. My old sedan before I needed to upgrade to a minivan was just ridiculous. It worked like those glow in the dark stars you put in kids rooms. So hypothetically it could glow, but it needed to be exposed to daylight for a while to charge up first.

:coffeews: Huh?????

:thinking: :laughing: :coffeews:

 

[Bootsctr]

The mechanism to make trunk releases glow varies widely. My old sedan before I needed to upgrade to a minivan was just ridiculous. It worked like those glow in the dark stars you put in kids rooms. So hypothetically it could glow, but it needed to be exposed to daylight for a while to charge up first.

Yes, exactly! Had a lot of those glow-in-the-dark stars on son's ceiling. I guess maybe you could leave your car out in the sunlight with the trunk open to "charge up." :dunno: Sit in the trunk shining a flashlight or spotlight on it to charge it...

 

[Bootsctr]

Interesting. Tell him we thank him for helping with the experiment.

I had no idea it was a law here in US. Thats good to know. I now need to check my vehicles and learn how to get out of the trunk just in case. LOL

I bet lots of people dont realize that all newer cars have those now. I dont have kids but I would think this would be good information to teach your children about to learn about them. Although it is a catch-22 because once a kid knows about it, they may try to play and lock each other in the trunk and it could be a dangerous thing if Brother Johnny decides to lock sister Sally in the trunk to see if she can get out.

For the automatic ones, Im not sure why the rule would give a full 5 minutes for the automatic ones to work. That seems like a long time. Maybe the automatic ones have a sensor that has to have a period of time to really know the car is not moving before it will automatically pop open the trunk. It is probably something to help prevent it from ever opening while driving or something like that.

I will! I was surprised I hadn't "investigated" trunk releases before. It's sad that really we need to teach our kids to know where the trunk release is in case they're ever "trunked".

Of course, the examples of kids playing around and maybe even playing hide and seek and getting in a trunk exists too. Kids are really creative with hiding places when it comes to playing hide and seek. Remember the dangers of kids hiding in old refrigerators people had carelessly placed without removing the doors? :notgood: