GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

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  • #941
drawing a blank....why was she calling Logan? I remember he was an old boyfriend she was dating when she met Hunter.

Logan (ALP) amd HF were best friends. CM dated ALP for quite a while. They moved in together and then according to ALP, she started seeing HF on the side and that's when they broke up.

"Prendergast and Morris moved in together in August 2013 after dating for a year, Prendergast said. But they broke up in October when Morris started dating his best friend, who is her current boyfriend.

“They started dating while we were still living together,” Prendergast said."

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article3872560.html

The night of her disappearance, HF let CM know that he had seen ALP while out and wanted to kick his 🤬🤬🤬. This was what SN says all the drama and repeated phone calls were about that night. I have to wonder if CM had some romantic contact with ALP that summer which was causing all the strife/jealousy between he and HF.
JMO
 
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  • #943
Nobody still never explained hf reasoning for the 4 day lapse of not sounding the alarm.

Did he ever call EA during the 4 days.
 
  • #944
Nobody still never explained hf reasoning for the 4 day lapse of not sounding the alarm.

Did he ever call EA during the 4 days.

BBM
From the Probable Cause Hearing:

"One phone call and two texts were sent from Arochi’s phone to Hunter Foster. One text stated, “Could I get some of that good rock.” Stamm said this suggests cocaine and believes Foster could supply this drug."

"Foster contacted Arochi days later, asking about Morris. Detectives found no previous contact between Foster and Arochi."

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...cle_14dd4862-9de4-11e4-b48e-5765cf2b7e65.html
 
  • #945
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/christina-morris-texas-woman-still-missing-one-year-later/

PLANO, Texas --Aug. 30 marked a somber anniversary for the family of missing Texas woman Christina Morris - one year since their daughter disappeared.


Christina Morris, 23, was last seen on surveillance camera footage Aug. 30, 2014 at The Shops at Legacy in Plano with her former classmate Enrique Arochi. On the video, the two people are seen walking into a parking garage.

Arochi, 25, was arrested in December and charged with aggravated kidnapping. He has maintained his innocence in the case. The whereabouts of Morris are still a mystery.


"I'm not going to stop searching," Jonni McElroy, the missing woman's mother, told CBS DFW. "Why would I? There's no reason. The only reason is when I find her or have an answer."


CBS DFW reported that according to police records, investigators found DNA from the blood and saliva of a female on the edge of Arochi's car's trunk opening. The police search and arrest warrants allege that Arochi left the parking garage "with Christina Morris in the trunk" of his car.


The documents obtained by the station state that a phone belonging to Morris was pinging cell towers while she was allegedly locked in the trunk of the car, reports the station. Authorities believe that Arochi returned to The Shops at Legacy with Morris still inside the trunk.


Arochi was reportedly back at his home in Allen about 40 minutes after the alleged abduction. The warrants also suggest that Arochi had intended to sexually "violate or abuse" Morris, and that he may have become angry when his advances were rejected.
 
  • #946
I guess I missed it during all this time, that he was back home within 40 minutes of the abduction. That makes me think she is much closer than I originally thought. I think his being late to work was more about trying to clean out his car, etc., not "moving" her. I don't think he brought her to his house, but jmo. Seems like this should narrow down the search area somewhat, unless she was put in water. Jmo
 
  • #947
I guess I missed it during all this time, that he was back home within 40 minutes of the abduction. That makes me think she is much closer than I originally thought. I think his being late to work was more about trying to clean out his car, etc., not "moving" her. I don't think he brought her to his house, but jmo. Seems like this should narrow down the search area somewhat, unless she was put in water. Jmo

But remember. Since the delay in days. He had time to go back and move her somewhere else. I think he replaced her body on night 2. Once he realized that he still had time.

I'm just surprised that he didn't use her keys to remove her car from the parking garage before day 4.
 
  • #948
But remember. Since the delay in days. He had time to go back and move her somewhere else. I think he replaced her body on night 2. Once he realized that he still had time.

I'm just surprised that he didn't use her keys to remove her car from the parking garage before day 4.

But he never knew if he had one more minute, hour, or days. She could have been reported missing at any time, and really should have been, Imo. So many people were close to her, yet no one reacted to being unable to get a hold of her for days. That still surprises me, even despite the "yolo" generation, etc...she was not one to miss work, from what we know, or fail to respond to family. Still, it wouldn't have made any difference in what happened to her, Imo. I think she had become a murder victim during that 40 minutes. Jmo
 
  • #949
I guess I missed it during all this time, that he was back home within 40 minutes of the abduction. That makes me think she is much closer than I originally thought. I think his being late to work was more about trying to clean out his car, etc., not "moving" her. I don't think he brought her to his house, but jmo. Seems like this should narrow down the search area somewhat, unless she was put in water. Jmo

I'm not sure how they are getting 40 minutes. Here are the times:

(3:58) EA on video leaving garage
(4:08) EA tagged at Custer gantry travelling northbound on 121
(4:47) CM’s phone pings near Granite Parkway
(4:56) EA’s phone pings near Granite Parkway
(5:32) EA’s phone pings from south side of Bethany same side as house

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...-11e4-8cbb-1f4760146008/54946c2148a9a.pdf.pdf

Also, just because his phone pinged on the south side of Bethany, that doesn't mean that he was at his house exactly. He could have even been continuing past and heading out to Lucas/Lavon, he could have been picking up an accomplice, he could have been meeting someone who lived in the area to get an extra pair of hands, he could have been switching vehicles, etc etc..,
I do not think that by 5:32am he was settling in back home.
 
  • #950
But he never knew if he had one more minute, hour, or days. She could have been reported missing at any time, and really should have been, Imo. So many people were close to her, yet no one reacted to being unable to get a hold of her for days. That still surprises me, even despite the "yolo" generation, etc...she was not one to miss work, from what we know, or fail to respond to family. Still, it wouldn't have made any difference in what happened to her, Imo. I think she had become a murder victim during that 40 minutes. Jmo

Murderers don't always think ahead. But if a certain amount of time lapse before they realize the jig is up. They sometimes try to recover their tracks better.

So on day 1. He may have just did whatever. But maybe by day 2 without being contacted. He decided to take a chance to hide the body in a more hidden place. Jmo
 
  • #951
Murderers don't always think ahead. But if a certain amount of time lapse before they realize the jig is up. They sometimes try to recover their tracks better.

So on day 1. He may have just did whatever. But maybe by day 2 without being contacted. He decided to take a chance to hide the body in a more hidden place. Jmo

I agree with you, I think that's a definite possibility. Especially given the fact that LE had information about his phone pings.

You would then think that if he disposed of her that same night, the pings would lead LE to her remains. The thing is that it's been over a year and she hasn't been found. That makes me think that either he left or shut off his phone before doing whatever else he did that night and continued in his own vehicle, he transferred her to another vehicle and that's why LE has no way to trail him further by pings, or LE did have pings that lead them somewhere but she was moved, so when they looked, she wasn't there.

All thoughts I've tossed around.
 
  • #952
Usually the accusers are the cheaters and it's their guilty conscious blaming the other person. I think HF ties in here somehow. What if he was in parking garage waiting to see if CM came out with a guy? He could have forced AE to do this and could be why AE isn't talking.

She's got to be in some very low Country area with the car damage. I'm think like creek bottoms full of aligators. Does Sabine River run up there anywhere? Maybe he went south to a more rural area instead of towards the city.
 
  • #953
I agree with you, I think that's a definite possibility. Especially given the fact that LE had information about his phone pings.

You would then think that if he disposed of her that same night, the pings would lead LE to her remains. The thing is that it's been over a year and she hasn't been found. That makes me think that either he left or shut off his phone before doing whatever else he did that night and continued in his own vehicle, he transferred her to another vehicle and that's why LE has no way to trail him further by pings, or LE did have pings that lead them somewhere but she was moved, so when they looked, she wasn't there.

All thoughts I've tossed around.


Here is a question for u all.
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How often does a cell phone ping?
And could it ping off different towers even if your not moving around?
 
  • #954
Usually the accusers are the cheaters and it's their guilty conscious blaming the other person. I think HF ties in here somehow. What if he was in parking garage waiting to see if CM came out with a guy? He could have forced AE to do this and could be why AE isn't talking.


She's got to be in some very low Country area with the car damage. I'm think like creek bottoms full of aligators. Does Sabine River run up there anywhere? Maybe he went south to a more rural area instead of towards the city.

BBM
LE seemed certain that HF had an alibi for his whereabouts and he (AFAIK) has never really been treated as a suspect. HF would have taken a big chance being in that garage with all the cctv (working or not..he would not have known that). My best guess is that LE has surveillance video of HF at The W hotel. But..who knows? I guess anything is possible... We just don't know & I have a feeling we will probably never know the WHOLE truth as to what exactly happened. Even if EA starts talking, I would have a hard time believing his complete story.. JMO IMO MOO
 
  • #955
Here is a question for u all.
I
How often does a cell phone ping?
And could it ping off different towers even if your not moving around?

This is another case I have long followed.

http://wthitv.com/2015/09/08/defense-asking-for-change-of-venue-in-tiffanie-adams-murder-case/

Defense states that if the closest tower is busy, you wil go to another tower. I have had conversations myself with Verizon about why I have issues with my service when there is a Verizon tower second from my house. They told me that I don't necessarily always use that tower just because I am the closest to it. I have no clue what any of this means.
 
  • #956
TBH,,,, I don't think she lost her keys at all. I think she was frustrated with getting no response and tried to get his attention and then said never mind. Like with the "good rock" text, IMO an attempt to get his attention from EA looking to score a buy.

Maybe in fact she hoped to go with EA thinking that he (of all people) just might get in touch with HF.

It's so hard to say, really. I know that some people on here probably want to punch their computer every time they see a post about the keys, but for those of us who have been here since Day 1 (or 4, I guess we should say) the keys have been speculated on in a bunch of different ways, and for a lot of reasons.

I've looked but can't find the interview where Jonni talked about the keys. It may have been the WS radio show??? Does anyone recall?
Anyway, in that interview, she stated that Christina had lost her keys and then found them again and that "people who were there that night" were playing tricks on her and hiding her keys from her. This led a few of us to question who and why. Now I know that Jonni may have been misinformed and obviously she was going on hearsay, but since she said it, let's go with it.
Were her friends hiding her keys to be funny/annoying?

Were they trying to force her to stay overnight? It was stated that she was going to stay, then changed her mind and want to get home due to the issues she was having with HF. If she "lost" her keys, would she have to stay over in Plano, and then they would "turn up" the next day when the friends felt things had cooled down?

Did EA hide her keys thinking that her could offer her a lift either all the way to Ft. Worth or at least to her dad's house in Allen?

Yes, I know the whole point is to find Christina but if this whole missing key episode happened, maybe it had something to do with how/why she left the garage with EA. Was she forced or did she go willingly? On the walk, in the last moments that we do not see on CCTV, did she check her bag and find her keys missing? Were they actually in EA's pocket? Did he offer to drive her to her dad's? on the way did he suggest they pull off and do a hit or two of something? There was some time between when he left the garage and then doubled back. Did they pull off to party and then he got handsy? Did she realize he had taken her keys and then get pissed off and grab the wheel while he was still driving? Did she somehow get hurt and he freaked out, threw her in the trunk, and then thought he could dump her back at The Shops? Did he get another call on the phone (which he later wiped clean) and did Christina then say, "Never mind about taking me to my dad's just bring me to so-and-so since they just called you and I'll find my keys tomorrow." and EA got pissed because he was hoping to get lucky.

moo

"she stated that Christina had lost her keys and then found them again and that "people who were there that night" were playing tricks on her and hiding her keys from her. This led a few of us to question who and why."

Obviously determining "if" [keys were actually hidden] and "if so, why" can only be speculative ventures.

But I think there's at least one obvious answer that fits what has been said otherwise, that provides a completely normal account of the pre-walk evening, and fits with the idea that these people were friends.I would assume she had plenty of alcohol to drink during the evening. Maybe she was "fully served" - and more. And/or some weed or other downer? So after the walk to the apartment, and after the food arrived, maybe she was acting too intoxicated to drive, and one of her friends didn't want her to drive to FW in that state. So someone took her keys so she wouldn't drive herself into a wreck or worse. Then she began to get pissy and upset about her keys and they gave them back, after an interval.

We do know it was a full hour later, after she got her keys back, before she left. So maybe they (whoever it was) decided enough time had passed and she was going to be okay. Perhaps tried to talk her into staying and she said she had to go home, she's fine, time to go, etc. (On multiple occasions I've been the guy trying to keep a friend from driving while impaired, and I know how that conversation goes. They are going to go home at some point, in the vast majority of cases, and often the best you can do is try to delay the inevitable and hope they sober up as you do so. They get super pissy when they discover their keys are missing, so you give the keys back, but you also try to talk them into staying a while longer.) Maybe she took an adderall as an upper to wake her up, and that helped.

And all that would also fit with and explain why we've heard that (SN?) was continuing to ask if she was okay, and her continuing to claim (truthfully, or not) she was fine, as she walked to her car.The concern had nothing to do with EA or HF, but rather a continuation of concern re her ability to drive a car safely to FW at that point.

Originally I had connected the "lost keys" with CM's frustration and trying to get HF's attention, but maybe the hiding/ taking of the keys actually happened and it was because people were concerned for her, which would open up an avenue for EA to offer a ride for her. Perhaps someone finally gave him her keys for when he would drop her off but he had other thoughts.

I think this is truly an unknown for us but the stories and the evidence from the friends would not need to be part of the affidavit for the arrest of EA, but could be saved as witness testimony for trial. In which case we would not know until trial.

MOO
 
  • #957
Originally I had connected the "lost keys" with CM's frustration and trying to get HF's attention, but maybe the hiding/ taking of the keys actually happened and it was because people were concerned for her, which would open up an avenue for EA to offer a ride for her. Perhaps someone finally gave him her keys for when he would drop her off but he had other thoughts.

I think this is truly an unknown for us but the stories and the evidence from the friends would not need to be part of the affidavit for the arrest of EA, but could be saved as witness testimony for trial. In which case we would not know until trial.

MOO

Exactly. The picture of her hand holding the two keys was only brought up because it was mentioned that she was wearing a gold ring, as well as the clothes that she was seen in from an earlier picture taken that night. Those things were part of what was listed as items to search for when the warrant was served.

The rest of the story *may* be revealed during the trial. I hope we get a lot of answers.
 
  • #958
BBM
LE seemed certain that HF had an alibi for his whereabouts and he (AFAIK) has never really been treated as a suspect. HF would have taken a big chance being in that garage with all the cctv (working or not..he would not have known that). My best guess is that LE has surveillance video of HF at The W hotel. But..who knows? I guess anything is possible... We just don't know & I have a feeling we will probably never know the WHOLE truth as to what exactly happened. Even if EA starts talking, I would have a hard time believing his complete story.. JMO IMO MOO

CM texted HF numerous times just before she disappeared (not to mention AE asking about buying 'some of that good rock'), won't the tower pings from HF's phone receiving those texts give LE a pretty good idea of his location at those times? That and like you said, maybe some video at the hotel likely give LE reason to believe he was nowhere near CM when she was abducted.
 
  • #959
The weird thing to me about tthe text to leave the door unlocked is didn't she know where he was (not at home) based on ALP showing up where he was and him (HF) wanting to kick his 🤬🤬🤬 (accordig to the ID Disappeared episode). Sometimes I wander if EA didn't try to set up HF with the rock text. I do still believe she willingly went with EA for whatever reason. I just can't see, IMO, EA attacking, putting her IN THE TRUNK ad leaving the garage so quickly.

I believe he dumped her that morninng and didn't go back. The only way he would know he had time is if HF was involved annd we can't go there. MOOOOO
 
  • #960
I wonder if EA tried anything by the second night, like texting HF and saying something like "Hey, have you heard from Christina? I just realized she gave me $10 to hold and she's not answering her phone" to see what HF said. If he said he hadn't heard from her and she maybe was in Tulsa he would have probably thought he had the extra time to move her. Not likely, but possible.

I feel like we are missing something. Whatever it is, it is POSSIBLE the LE is keeping it secret for now.

Whatever happened, I assume he hid her before he actually clocked into work that next day. He *could* have went back and hid her better if he noticed there wasn't anything about her on the news, nobody was texting him or calling him about her, and he wasn't seeing anything on Facebook about her missing. He likely would have known if he had time or not. If he hid her and then later started worrying that it wasn't in a good enough spot, if he thought he had time to move her, he could have.

The only problem I have with that scenario is that we didn't hear anything about signs of a decomposing body in his trunk, and isn't that normally something they can tell? But he could have used a different vehicle.

Although if somehow this was all an accident, I can see him being too sickened to go move her, or going to do it and just getting really grossed out and upset and not doing it. But who knows.
 
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