GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

[Cricket99]

Let's try to stay on the topic - no point in arguing.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Let's try to stay on the topic - no point in arguing.

Who is arguing?

Sorry, nothing against you, Cricket. I just don't understand the arguing comment. We do not know what happened to Christina. NOTHING has been proved definitively.

I will continue to believe what I believe until there is a trial and conviction. :seeya:

 

[Eileen730]

Too far, IMO. Regardless though, RIP to whoever it is.

I don't think EA would drive to the landfill and put her there. She was probably placed in a dumpster somewhere.

 

[Eileen730]

Who is arguing?

Sorry, nothing against you, Cricket. I just don't understand the arguing comment. We do not know what happened to Christina. NOTHING has been proved definitively.

I will continue to believe what I believe until there is a trial and conviction. :seeya:

LOL your not allowed!

 

[Eileen730]

I think we have to wait and see what info comes out at trial.
Maybe we can learn something new.

 

[EllieBee]

N/M:

Appears to be the body of a 48-year-old black male.

http://elliscountycitizen.com/2015/04/17/dead-body-found-at-landfill-in-ferris/

Sorry.

 

[frisson]

Who is arguing?

Sorry, nothing against you, Cricket. I just don't understand the arguing comment. We do not know what happened to Christina. NOTHING has been proved definitively.

I will continue to believe what I believe until there is a trial and conviction. :seeya:

Originally posted by Eileen730
LOL your not allowed!

MIKA, are you thinking for yourself again? Go stand in the corner.

 

[daisytrail]

We know that is not Christina, but has the body ever been identified, even as to gender? I went to the thread and there is nothing and I can find nothing.

 

[SteveS]

NOTHING has been proved definitively.

I will continue to believe what I believe until there is a trial and conviction.

Of course. We look at the known evidence for ourselves as we go along. What we conclude is definitive based on what we know, with the self-awareness that it can be altered if/when we learn more. Presumably we'll learn much more from the trial.

But in the meantime, we can certainly evaluate various ideas offered, weighing against the evidence we know so far, because what we know always either implicates or fails to implicate this person or that. IMO smart conclusions always follow the evidence.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

MIKA, are you thinking for yourself again? Go stand in the corner.

YES! The horror!

 

[bellesnwhistles]

Drug facts we know:

HF sold them
EA smoked a bowl of weed that evening (according to EA)
CM asked for an Adderall (according to EA)
LE believes Adderall & alcohol were being abused
Somebody sent a "rock" text

I'm not sure how any of that ties into Aggravated Kidnapping with sexual assault & probable murder. Seems weak to me... jmo

I'm sure le has much more to go on than we do. But that might be your point.. Sorry I'm a little behind. Either way I *think* were on the same page and believe it was SA

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I think there is so much more we don't know.

Not saying EA is innocent though.

 

[TheColonyMom]

I wish the trial would start already. I keep hoping to pop on here and see some new evidence or news but all I see is bickering and random wild theories based on little more than a dislike of someone with no evidence or even the slightest bit of sensibility. I get that HF was a douchebag and a liar but how on earth does he tie in with EA being the last person known to have been with her and subsequently her DNA being found in his trunk? One thing is certain and that's EA is known for telling the most outlandish lies to distance himself from this case. I seriously doubt he'd take the fall for HF. I'd go so far as to say he'd sing like a canary if HF was involved. So for me the only other way possible to implicate HF is to think somehow between the garage and the video of EA at the gas station HF somehow got to CM and used EAs car to dispose of her without EA knowing. Of course then there's those pesky pings, his injuries, his cleaning of the vehicle, all his lies, the note, and whatever other evidence LE has pointing directly to him that I'd have to force my logical self to ignore to even begin to buy into that story. Hoof prints and horses vs zebras basically. Well really in this case it's more like hoof prints, zero stripes, and a video of an animal that unmistakably a horse vs maybe it still could be a zebra. All IMO of course.

I apologize for the harshness of my post but I just feel our collective energies are being wasted on trying to imagine a scenario where someone else took CM and put her in his trunk with EAs DNA (I know that's speculation that it's EAs DNA mixed with CMs, but if it was anyone else's such as HF surely other charges/arrests would have come) without leaving their own, when we could instead be sleuthing EA and his background to try and figure where she is.

 

[heather.scissorhands]

I'd love to sleuth EA. What do we know? Especially that leads to locations. Where did he hang out?

Sports?[modsnip]
Hobbies in general?
Bars he liked?
Hunting?
Member of a church in a rural area?
Friends in towns nearby? (One lived near/at SAL)
Friends at all?
Family/extended family property near by?
Drug connections? (Had to at least buy weed from someone)
Purpose of burner phones?
Why did he still live at home?

 

[zippixx]

Drug facts we know:

HF sold them
EA smoked a bowl of weed that evening (according to EA)
CM asked for an Adderall (according to EA)
LE believes Adderall & alcohol were being abused
Somebody sent a "rock" text

I'm not sure how any of that ties into Aggravated Kidnapping with sexual assault & probable murder. Seems weak to me... jmo

I'm sure le has much more to go on than we do. But that might be your point.. Sorry I'm a little behind. Either way I *think* were on the same page and believe it was SA

Correct, I'm guessing LE has much more, as well... I just don't think it has much to do with drugs, other than what I mentioned (which isn't very substantial).... jmo

 

[zippixx]

I wish the trial would start already. I keep hoping to pop on here and see some new evidence or news but all I see is bickering and random wild theories based on little more than a dislike of someone with no evidence or even the slightest bit of sensibility. I get that HF was a douchebag and a liar but how on earth does he tie in with EA being the last person known to have been with her and subsequently her DNA being found in his trunk? One thing is certain and that's EA is known for telling the most outlandish lies to distance himself from this case. I seriously doubt he'd take the fall for HF. I'd go so far as to say he'd sing like a canary if HF was involved. So for me the only other way possible to implicate HF is to think somehow between the garage and the video of EA at the gas station HF somehow got to CM and used EAs car to dispose of her without EA knowing. Of course then there's those pesky pings, his injuries, his cleaning of the vehicle, all his lies, the note, and whatever other evidence LE has pointing directly to him that I'd have to force my logical self to ignore to even begin to buy into that story. Hoof prints and horses vs zebras basically. Well really in this case it's more like hoof prints, zero stripes, and a video of an animal that unmistakably a horse vs maybe it still could be a zebra. All IMO of course.

I apologize for the harshness of my post but I just feel our collective energies are being wasted on trying to imagine a scenario where someone else took CM and put her in his trunk with EAs DNA (I know that's speculation that it's EAs DNA mixed with CMs, but if it was anyone else's such as HF surely other charges/arrests would have come) without leaving their own, when we could instead be sleuthing EA and his background to try and figure where she is.

Bingo! :goodpost:

 

[zippixx]

I'd love to sleuth EA. What do we know? Especially that leads to locations. Where did he hang out?

Sports? [modsnip]
Hobbies in general?
Bars he liked?
Hunting?
Member of a church in a rural area?
Friends in towns nearby? (One lived near/at SAL)
Friends at all?
Family/extended family property near by?
Drug connections? (Had to at least buy weed from someone)
Purpose of burner phones?
Why did he still live at home?

Yeah, good questions... seems like his past is a mystery, (to us)... LE would more than likely have most of (or all) those answers..

 

[EllieBee]

I'd love to sleuth EA. What do we know? Especially that leads to locations. Where did he hang out?

Sports?[modsnip]
Hobbies in general?
Bars he liked?
Hunting?
Member of a church in a rural area?
Friends in towns nearby? (One lived near/at SAL)
Friends at all?
Family/extended family property near by?
Drug connections? (Had to at least buy weed from someone)
Purpose of burner phones?
Why did he still live at home?

Thing is, a huge part of sleuthing EA and piecing together what happened that night involves looking at the possibility that other players may be involved.

But having read along on this thread from beginning until now, I see that suggesting that EA is only one piece of this puzzle is often met with disdain.

And that is a shame because Christina's whereabouts very well may be related to EA's communications or relationships with other people, in whatever capacity. Especially that night.

I know she was IN HIS TRUNK, but she isn't there NOW and if we really want to find her we need to look at a bigger picture. Christina's family deserves more than just a conviction. They deserve to place Christina's remains to rest.

JMO.

 

[EllieBee]

I think there is so much more we don't know.

Not saying EA is innocent though.

Exactly.

I think EA is without a doubt responsible for what happened to Christina. I also think the other people in both EA and CM's lives (not openly sleuthed, mind you) need to be considered. Some of those texts and pings and witness statements may be crucial in finding Christina.

What if those texts really do mean they drove together to see HF? Doesn't make HF guilty (well, not of this), but it could help trace CM's last moments and possibly find her.

Figuring out the relationships and communications between these people is not suggesting EA is innocent or was framed or what have you. It is just looking at EVERYTHING. To find Christina.

 

[Bootsctr]

I know Christina's case doesn't involve hair DNA, but still food for thought:

"FBI overstated forensic hair matches in nearly all trials before 2000

The Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000.

Of 28 examiners with the FBI Laboratory’s microscopic hair comparison unit, 26 overstated forensic matches in ways that favored prosecutors in more than 95 percent of the 268 trials reviewed so far, according to the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (NACDL) and the Innocence Project, which are assisting the government with the country’s largest post-conviction review of questioned forensic evidence.

The cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death. Of those, 14 have been executed or died in prison, the groups said under an agreement with the government to release results after the review of the first 200 convictions.

Texas, New York and North Carolina authorities are reviewing their hair examiner cases, with ad hoc efforts underway in about 15 other states."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fb...s-in-nearly-all-trials-before-2000/ar-AAbgTt6