GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #4 *Arrest*

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  • #581
I never said that she was a drug user. What I said was that I feel that drug use could certainly play a big part in this given that many people in her circle of friends have had a history involving drug use.


I agree Cookie!! In fact .... I would even bet the majority of the issue is that very same reason.

I do not think for 1 second you ever implied she is a junkie ... but I guess that would depend what drug we are talking about.

I love coffee ..got to have it .. which is a stimulant -drug addiction .. I am guilty
 
  • #582
Hi Yorkie Mom,

I don't think the driver actually went in to the garage, hence why they are not seen on Cam13. I would think he/she dropped them off in front of Potbelly's but never actually entered the garage. But... My theory has to be flawed if those two cameras in front of the garage are working.

So let's say that only cam13 from the garage is working, there are 4 traffic cams at Parkwood and Legacy. Are those cams disabled as well?
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I've thought those were cameras in the past and I have been told that they are sensors to turn the lights green for emergency vehicles and not cameras.

I haven't asked about these specific ones but others that look the same.
 
  • #583
here's one;

Their best leads are the drivers of three cars seen in the parking garage that same morning.
"You can't tell any of the cars apart, which is really frustrating because I feel like that could be a big lead of ours," McElroy said

http://abcnews.go.com/US/search-continues-texas-woman-vanished-party/story?id=25311299

The video tells it a little different. It says 3 cars seen that night on the same surveillance camera (implying same camera that Christina & friend were on). This makes more sense in that how would they know that there were three cars in the garage that morning without working cameras. Now the question is, I think the video of Christina & friend was clear enough that "you can't tell any of the cars apart" doesn't make sense unless the camera picked the cars up farther away from where it captured Christina & friend.
 
  • #584
I agree Cookie!! In fact .... I would even bet the majority of the issue is that very same reason.

I do not think for 1 second you ever implied she is a junkie ... but I guess that would depend what drug we are talking about.

I love coffee ..got to have it .. which is a stimulant -drug addiction .. I am guilty

But fortunately for us, it is legal. ��
 
  • #585
Hi Yorkie Mom,

I don't think the driver actually went in to the garage, hence why they are not seen on Cam13. I would think he/she dropped them off in front of Potbelly's but never actually entered the garage. But... My theory has to be flawed if those two cameras in front of the garage are working.

So let's say that only cam13 from the garage is working, there are 4 traffic cams at Parkwood and Legacy. Are those cams disabled as well?
View attachment 59034

Hi hon, you may be on to something.
so would you have walked at 3:30am from scruggs up parkwood, or cut thru the middle of the other apts and shops .. or gotten a ride from someone else that was leaving the scruggs apt ?
 
  • #586
I agree Cookie!! In fact .... I would even bet the majority of the issue is that very same reason.

I do not think for 1 second you ever implied she is a junkie ... but I guess that would depend what drug we are talking about.

I love coffee ..got to have it .. which is a stimulant -drug addiction .. I am guilty

Thanks! I kind of got the feeling I was being hand-slapped there...

I most certainly am not implying she was a junkie, but let's not be naive here: I think we can figure that if we got a group of people together from an edm crowd at post-club hours, it isn't far-fetched to say they are not just kicking back Yoohoos and playing Yahtzee. JMO

Let's face it, we are only going by what we deduce from what we read or what we see. It is no different than others continuing to point their finger at the ex bf when in fact we don't have any indication that he was even in the area. At least I'm not naming anyone. Sheesh.

Glad you mentioned coffee... time for some ;-)
 
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At this point ..
If there is a local resident of the Shops area .. have you asked those local business's if the cameras outside their doors are there for looks or actually record 24/7?????
 
  • #589
Thanks! I kind of got the feeling I was being hand-slapped there...

I most certainly am not implying she was a junkie, but let's not be naive here: I think we can figure that if we got a group of people together from an edm crowd at post-club hours, it isn't far-fetched to say they are not just kicking back Yoohoos and playing Yahtzee. JMO

Let's face it, we are only going by what we deduce from what we read or what we see. It is no different than others continuing to point their finger at the ex bf when in fact we don't have any indication that he was even in the area. At least I'm not naming anyone. Sheesh.

Glad you mentioned coffee... time for some ;-)

OMG!!!! I am rolling on the floor !!!

Yoohoos and Yahtzee

Ya forgot to mention eating Cheetos and playing Beauty Shop !!!!

I may be OLD ... but I am not dumb....
 
  • #590
More VERY interesting research:
Thinking about CM’s walk from Scruggs Way to Legacy (or at least her being in that general area at the time)
Scruggs Way to 5715 Legacy (walk from apt to parking garage is 1/ 2 mile (9 min walk)
What other crimes reported near the area may need to have a second look?
Here’s what I found at: Plano Police Crime Watch Bulletins
http://www.plano.gov/Archive.aspx?AMID=65


8-31-14 Indecent Exposure (happened ½ mile from Scruggs)
DESCRIPTION: The female victim was walking in the area of Parkwood and Spring Creek
when she noticed the white pick-up truck traveling southbound on Parkwood make a U-turn
and leave the area. A short time later the same truck was seen backed into an entrance of a
business. As the victim approached the truck she observed the suspect expose himself to
her. The victim called 911 but the suspect was gone prior to officers arriving.
SUSPECT INFORMATION: White male, 30-35 years old, dark hair cut very short.
VEHICLE INFORMATION: White pick-up truck possible license plate # BD??959.
http://www.plano.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3644

8-15-14 Indecent Exposure (happened 3.5 miles from Scruggs)
DESCRIPTION: The juvenile victim was walking across the parking lot of the Willow Bend
Mall when she noticed the suspect sitting in the white truck. As she approached the truck the
suspect asked her if she needed a ride. The suspect had no clothes on and exposed himself
to her from inside the truck. The victim ran inside the mall and reported the incident.
Suspect was gone prior to officers arriving.
SUSPECT INFORMATION: White male, 23-25 years of age, muscular build, “tribal” tattoo on
upper left arm.
VEHICLE INFORMATION: White pickup truck.
http://www.plano.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3614


6-22-14 Suspicious Vehicle (happened 3 miles from Scruggs)
DESCRIPTION: The adult female victim was walking in the area of Park Blvd. and Parkwood
Blvd. when the suspect drove by her several times. Each time he drove by he would make a
vulgar statement to her. When the suspect saw the victim dialing 911 on her phone he left
the area.
SUSPECT INFORMATION: White male, 25-35 years old, thin build, brown eyes, scruffy
unshaven facial hair, wearing a red baseball cap and a gray shirt.
VEHICLE INFORMATION: Dodge pickup truck silver or beige in color, Oklahoma tags.
http://www.plano.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/3468

Good work, ShellockHolmes!

:websleuther:
 
  • #591

Keep in mind that she posted this on October 14 and on October 13 a male in her circle of friends was arrested for sexual assault.
 
  • #592
Hi all, just trying to get up to speed reading all the posts thru the various threads. Question, did anyone comment on the demeanor of the BF in television interview. I know we are to discuss people that are "suspects" even though LE said they haven't ruled "anyone out. I just find it odd. Reminds me of Travis Forbes interview involving Kenia Monge. I know phone records could somewhat clear that up with cell towers and all. I guess people handle grief differently...

Ugh, Travis Forbes---what a piece of work.
(Did he kill Amy Ahonen too?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?144226-CO-Amy-Ahonen-38-Golden-08-July-2011)

eta: Remember, LE was on to TF in Kenia's case the whole time---...

eta: There's a lot that can be learned from TF...how he burned evidence in the alley (why I always check fire logs now), how his methods varied per victim, lots of things...
 
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Keep in mind that she posted this on October 14 and on October 13 a male in her circle of friends was arrested for sexual assault.

October 18 was the arrest
 
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Hi hon, you may be on to something.
so would you have walked at 3:30am from scruggs up parkwood, or cut thru the middle of the other apts and shops .. or gotten a ride from someone else that was leaving the scruggs apt ?


Good question! So I'm a 36 y/o female and my thought process is probably different than a 20 y/o female but here is how I would go from apartment to parking garage in order of my preference.

1) Get a ride from someone, especially if I had been even a little tipsy and been up for close to 24 hours.
2) Walk - Up Parkwood. Cross Legacy and then enter in to the parking garage from the entrance by Dunkin.

But... Let's say they stayed at Henry's until closing time and did not go back to the apartment.
1) Walk - From Henry's I would enter the garage through the same entrance they did. But the time stamp would be a little after 2am most likely or at best maybe just before 3am if we lingered in front of Henry's.

This makes me wonder if anyone has confirmed if the time stamp on cam13 is accurate?

Also, IF there is only 3 cameras for the parking garage, why is that one named cam13? Seems odd.
 
  • #597
Margarita ... take my wheel for a while ... I'm going out for a donut and coffee

(Girl, you and those donuts :biggrin:

I have to go back to work, argh, ---Momoffourboys, take the wheel gf!

Just want to say, re: Whataburger, if I would have known they didn't have Whataburger in Colorado, I probably wouldn't have moved here!)

Where are you Christina?
 
  • #598
Personally I hope LE is holding back, as that might point to them being closer than they are letting on. But they sure are sounding as though they don't really have a clue as to what happened to her. And having TES come and go the way they did kind of points to just wanting to get a certain area searched, Imo, not so much that they had info she might be in that area. I mean, searching 101 says you have to search the area near "last seen" area.
 
  • #599
Ugh, Travis Forbes---what a piece of work.
(Did he kill Amy Ahonen too?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?144226-CO-Amy-Ahonen-38-Golden-08-July-2011)

eta: Remember, LE was on to TF in Kenia's case the whole time---...

eta: There's a lot that can be learned from TF...how he burned evidence in the alley (why I always check fire logs now), how his methods varied per victim, lots of things...



Check Fire Logs Aug 30th -till Today in odd locations
 
  • #600
Hi hon, you may be on to something.
so would you have walked at 3:30am from scruggs up parkwood, or cut thru the middle of the other apts and shops .. or gotten a ride from someone else that was leaving the scruggs apt ?

Some traffic cameras are real time only- they don't record. Some are "red light cams"... we would need clarification on what type are used in the picture.
 
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