Found Alive TX - Christine Woo (fnd dec'd), 39, & 3 kids, Frisco, 28 March 2016

[jpo74]

This choice is baffling. I just thank God she didn't harm those children.

im sorry, but i have to disagree with you. she did harm them, maybe not killing them outright, but she should have left them in care and then if she wanted to kill herself, do so without the kids. the 5 yr old most likely will remember this tramatic act on her or his mother's part. :furious:

 

[December]

Why would she think she had her phone when she didn't take her phone? This is something someone can easily check. People know if they have their phone with them or not. I believe it is much more likely she on purpose didn't take her phone with her so her location couldn't be traced.

Well, probably.

But, I have forgotten my phone and not realized it until later. It hasn't happened that many times, but I was sure I had it until I looked. But, I wasn't planning to kill myself, obviously. I also don't have little kids that are distracting or move things.

I didn't mean maybe she meant for her husband to track her. I meant that maybe he had. But, like I know what anyone thinks. I don't even have a strong opinion about this.

 

[December]

im sorry, but i have to disagree with you. she did harm them, maybe not killing them outright, but she should have left them in care and then if she wanted to kill herself, do so without the kids. the 5 yr old most likely will remember this tramatic act on her or his mother's part. :furious:

You're right.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I personally believe the latter unfortunately.

Me too. Too many options for making absolutely sure the kids would be ok... getting a babysitter, going out in the evening or at night when her husband was home...

Does anyone know if her windows were tinted? Very common in hot climates, and that coupled with the front window cover would make it very difficult to see inside the car.

Moo

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[Bethechange]

im sorry, but i have to disagree with you. she did harm them, maybe not killing them outright, but she should have left them in care and then if she wanted to kill herself, do so without the kids. the 5 yr old most likely will remember this tramatic act on her or his mother's part. :furious:

Such a sad story - I really can't see it being an intentional act though. From everything that we have read, she was a loving mother. Perhaps a loving mother who was feeling like her identity was slipping away. Depression lies to you, and being a mother is not always easy.

Reading this thread reminds me of days when my children were a little younger, and my depression was in control of my thoughts. I would feel overwhelmed, and frustrated, and numb - and I know the relief of taking a few pills to feel something- to clear my head, to make me feel motivated, to make me feel like I had worth. When a few pills didn't do it, another couple might. And so it goes. I am fortunate that I have never taken a lethal dose.... It would never be intentionally lethal, but cumulatively, it could be.

My husband has been a saint, and I have loved my children ferociously (even when I was at my breaking point). I have had fits of uncontrollable rage about the tiniest things, because I get overwhelmed by noise and light, and life. But I have always known that I had support, and I have always known that depression lies. I wish Christine had known that too.

JMO MOO

 

[mpnola]

I guess this will be politically incorrect or at least not popular, considering the tone of the comments here. But, I am disgusted with what she did! She ABSOLUTELY put them in just about the worst situation a child can be in! In the presence of their mommy, who wont wake up, in a car that is hot and stuffy, with no food and water, no one to rescue them, sitting in their own excrement, locked in a seat, with a smelling rotting human in the closed space! It is HORRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As an adult, Im not sure how I would ever recover from that! These children will absolutely remember a good bit of it and on top of that, they will have reminders for the rest of their lives! Mommy daughter tea at school? Yep. Reminder. Graduation, wedding, whatever. Reminder of what happened.

I would take every ounce of pain from my child, if I could. I would never want him to take on the pain I have. For anything! Whatever pain she had, she just handed it to her children tenfold! She handed them all of her pain, plus added abandonment, neglect, abuse, horrific experience, memories---- she couldnt handle the mental anguish but her babies can? I guess I just don't have that much sympathy for her, considering what she put children through. If she wanted to do something to herself, I wish she would have sought help, but short of that option, she should do what she wants to her person. But to involve the children? Unforgivable with no excuse. None.

She knew what she was doing. She committed suicide with her children present and trapped! The police wouldnt rule a suicide without a whole lot of reason to---- <modsnip> Unless something else is said, I am sickened by what she did. My heart goes out to her babies and family, as they will never completely heal from her irresponsible actions.

 

[December]

Well, I agree that she shouldn't have done it like this (or at all, really).

Because even in the absolute best case scenario, it would take hours for anyone to find the children because her husband still had hours to work. That scenario didn't happen, but we're still talking a really long time to be stuck in that situation.

Although, what this case says to me most, is children do not need to be restrained and locked into vehicles. They could have all died because of that!

Edit: I don't have any children, so the car seat/child lock thing is not something I think about that much. Although, I hate when I am a passenger and someone puts on child locks.

 

[jjenny]

Obviously the kids all could have died. They were sitting in their waste for days. And if it was later on in the summer, they would have died from heat (in TX it wouldn't have taken long). If she was only trying to kill herself and not the children (which is what police said) then why did she have them in the car with her? Her husband didn't even report them missing until the next day. If police didn't find them when they did, they could have died in that car from dehydration.
Her cell phone was left at home, and I believe it was deliberate so her husband couldn't track her.
If she expected him to track her (after she died) by the cell phone, then I presume she would have made sure she had that cell phone with her.

 

[December]

I never meant that she EXPECTED her husband to track her using her phone. I just meant he DID track her before and find her quickly. She might not have known how he did it. So, she didn't make sure about the phone. But, she might have thought that would happen again. However, I don't know this, it doesn't matter because even if that is what she thought it is still a stupid plan. I was thinking more about what he said than what she did.

I am not taking up for her! She should not have left the children in that situation. Even if she thought they might be found in two hours (somehow, I don't know how... This is an example), that is still a really long time.

Maybe she was nice to people who knew her, it sounds like it. But, she shouldn't have killed herself with all of these little kids. She should have gone to a hospital or to family or something. But, failing that, it would have been better if she had left the kids at Walgreen's or McDonald's or Target than what she did. Which that would be totally ridiculous, but at least they would have a better chance of being found (quickly) by someone who could help and they wouldn't be stuck in her car with her.

 

[jjenny]

I never meant that she EXPECTED her husband to track her using her phone. I just meant he DID track her before and find her quickly. She might not have known how he did it. So, she didn't make sure about the phone. But, she might have thought that would happen again. However, I don't know this, it doesn't matter because even if that is what she thought it is still a stupid plan. I was thinking more about what he said than what she did.

I am not taking up for her! She should not have left the children in that situation. Even if she thought they might be found in two hours (somehow, I don't know how... This is an example), that is still a really long time.

Maybe she was nice to people who knew her, it sounds like it. But, she shouldn't have killed herself with all of these little kids. She should have gone to a hospital or to family or something. But, failing that, it would have been better if she had left the kids at Walgreen's or McDonald's or Target than what she did. Which that would be totally ridiculous, but at least they would have a better chance of being found (quickly) by someone who could help and they wouldn't be stuck in her car with her.

How would she not know how her husband did it? She is an educated woman.

 

[roadrunnermt]

I guess this will be politically incorrect or at least not popular, considering the tone of the comments here. But, I am disgusted with what she did! She ABSOLUTELY put them in just about the worst situation a child can be in! In the presence of their mommy, who wont wake up, in a car that is hot and stuffy, with no food and water, no one to rescue them, sitting in their own excrement, locked in a seat, with a smelling rotting human in the closed space! It is HORRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As an adult, Im not sure how I would ever recover from that! These children will absolutely remember a good bit of it and on top of that, they will have reminders for the rest of their lives! Mommy daughter tea at school? Yep. Reminder. Graduation, wedding, whatever. Reminder of what happened.

I would take every ounce of pain from my child, if I could. I would never want him to take on the pain I have. For anything! Whatever pain she had, she just handed it to her children tenfold! She handed them all of her pain, plus added abandonment, neglect, abuse, horrific experience, memories---- she couldnt handle the mental anguish but her babies can? I guess I just don't have that much sympathy for her, considering what she put children through. If she wanted to do something to herself, I wish she would have sought help, but short of that option, she should do what she wants to her person. But to involve the children? Unforgivable with no excuse. None.

She knew what she was doing. She committed suicide with her children present and trapped! The police wouldnt rule a suicide without a whole lot of reason to---- 15 blister packs of sleeping pills open and empty on the car floor or whatever. Unless something else is said, I am sickened by what she did. My heart goes out to her babies and family, as they will never completely heal from her irresponsible actions.

Not trying to be rude, but do you have a link for the 15 blister packages in her vehicle? I don't recall seeing tgat and would like to read it.

 

[ClaireNC]

I guess this will be politically incorrect or at least not popular, considering the tone of the comments here. But, I am disgusted with what she did! She ABSOLUTELY put them in just about the worst situation a child can be in! In the presence of their mommy, who wont wake up, in a car that is hot and stuffy, with no food and water, no one to rescue them, sitting in their own excrement, locked in a seat, with a smelling rotting human in the closed space! It is HORRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As an adult, Im not sure how I would ever recover from that! These children will absolutely remember a good bit of it and on top of that, they will have reminders for the rest of their lives! Mommy daughter tea at school? Yep. Reminder. Graduation, wedding, whatever. Reminder of what happened.

I would take every ounce of pain from my child, if I could. I would never want him to take on the pain I have. For anything! Whatever pain she had, she just handed it to her children tenfold! She handed them all of her pain, plus added abandonment, neglect, abuse, horrific experience, memories---- she couldnt handle the mental anguish but her babies can? I guess I just don't have that much sympathy for her, considering what she put children through. If she wanted to do something to herself, I wish she would have sought help, but short of that option, she should do what she wants to her person. But to involve the children? Unforgivable with no excuse. None.

She knew what she was doing. She committed suicide with her children present and trapped! The police wouldnt rule a suicide without a whole lot of reason to---- 15 blister packs of sleeping pills open and empty on the car floor or whatever. Unless something else is said, I am sickened by what she did. My heart goes out to her babies and family, as they will never completely heal from her irresponsible actions.

Thanks for saying what I've been thinking. What she did was so incredibly selfish.

I have also suffered depression for many years and have had thoughts of suicide. It was my instinct to love and protect my children that kept me going at times when nothing else mattered. I don't have any sympathy for her, but I have so much for her poor, poor children.

 

[December]

JJenny, I don't know. Why would she think what she did was a good idea? It's not logical.

I was talking about what her husband said in the interview about tracking her with her phone.

She very well did leave it on purpose. But, it seems likely she thought the car would be found. It wasn't exactly hidden. I am not advocating her plan, whatever it was. It was extremely likely to go wrong. And personally, I would not have wanted to have been in the car for five minutes which is much quicker than the children could have been found under ANY circumstance.

But, anyone who would do what she did is someone engaged in magical thinking. We will not ever be able to figure out exactly what she thought. You think she planned everything. I think she was maybe more haphazard than that and not thinking logically at all. But, either one of us could be right, or we could both be wrong.

 

[mpnola]

Not trying to be rude, but do you have a link for the 15 blister packages in her vehicle? I don't recall seeing tgat and would like to read it.

No. I am not saying that is what they found. I am saying that they have a reason to say it was suicide. A possibility could be meds that she just bought all out of the package and in her system. Or pill bottles or packaging in the vehicle with her. Or whatever. The point is, I do not think that they would rule a suicide because she took one anxiety pill and had an adverse reaction or took 2 on accident or anything of that nature, which has been suggested here. I am going to believe the police- she committed suicide with her children strapped into the car while she did it. Suicide, not accidental. What she did, she meant to do. Including having her children present to witness it.

Definition of suicide- the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally especially by a person of years of discretion and of sound mind

 

[jjenny]

I was trying to think of any similar case (someone killed themselves in a car with children in the car) and I can't think of any. So it's very hard to understand why someone described as a "loving mother" would do it.

 

[December]

I think when someone takes a lot of pills all at once, there are physical signs during autopsy.

 

[mpnola]

I think when someone takes a lot of pills all at once, there are physical signs during autopsy.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/me-christine-woo-committed-suicide-by-overdose/147717338

Christine Woo, the Frisco mother who was found dead inside her SUV in the parking lot of a McKinney Target late last month, committed suicide by overdose, according to the Collin County medical examiner.

 

[December]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/me-christine-woo-committed-suicide-by-overdose/147717338

Christine Woo, the Frisco mother who was found dead inside her SUV in the parking lot of a McKinney Target late last month, committed suicide by overdose, according to the Collin County medical examiner.

I wasn't saying she didn't kill herself. I was saying that's one of the ways they can know.

 

[jjenny]

I wasn't saying she didn't kill herself. I was saying that's one of the ways they can know.

They can determine the concentration in her system from the tox screen. Then they can estimate how many pills she took.

 

[tiffay01]

Just getting here and seeing this. It's so terribly sad, those poor babies. From the beginning I had a fear this was the case. I am beyond glad she didn't attempt to take the kids with her. I think the oldest unbuckled the baby and helped the baby to get with mom to try and soothe the baby during that time. I don't think mom was holding the baby when she died.

I also don't think it would ever be ruled a suicide unless there was sufficient evidence of it being so.

I just keep thinking how selfish this is, then I remember the pain and suffering one goes through to even get to that point. There is not a time that suicide is the answer.