Found Deceased TX - Crystal Seratte McDowell, 38, Baytown, 25 Aug 2017 #2 *Arrest*

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  • #821
I was actually curious about that myself. I haven't heard how they died, I just assumed a car accident or something like that.

I researched the death dates and they died in two different years. I think 1993 and 1994. That also would've made Crystal 14 and not 11 when they passed.

But with two different death dates, I'm at a loss of what they passed away from or by. She also went to Duncan HS in Oklahoma but Uncle Jeff has always lived in Texas. So that part is a bit off to me anyway.

I would like to see if anyone else knows about her parents, albeit, not an important part in solving this but peaks curiosity.


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  • #822
I'm wondering WHY the ex-husband corresponds via text message with Crystal about picking up kids at his work. BUT, then he sends a message about the dishwasher arriving; uh, why didn't he send her any text messages asking why she never showed up?? Strange!!


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  • #823
In the previous thread, it stated in the Nancy Grace show the Sheriff said the family contaminated the townhouse. As far as we know to this point, the townhouse was not part of a crime scene. All we know was it was under renovation. There has been no mention of her stopping there on the day she disappeared.

The family went to investigate Crystal's whereabouts that day (Friday) she went missing. They went to townhouse and found her car. The family found the car and got in it.

LE was notified the next day of a missing person.


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  • #824
Look at the text message from Crystal at 7:27 which is the billboard picture and then go watch the interview with Paul from september 6th.

Time stamp at works shows him at the jewelry store at 7:30, he claims he got to work at 8:00.

It places Paul right where "Crystal" texted the billboard photo.

Oooo...good job! That's huge, IMO.


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  • #825
He also claims the time stamp is wrong on that video too.

Funny how the time stamps are "wrong" on both his home and work cctvs....


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  • #826
Funny how the time stamps are "wrong" on both his home and work cctvs....


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LE has confirmed all the timestamps to be in sync with his account.


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  • #827
I wanted to provide a map.
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  • #828
Oooo...good job! That's huge, IMO.


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I may have missed this but why is it important if the BF arrived at work at 7:30 or 8:00am. She left his house at 7:00am. It would take about 12-15 minutes to get to her family home.

The Billboard picture was taken at night. I'm thinking it was taken another time.


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  • #829
LE has confirmed all the timestamps to be in sync with his account.


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From his work as well?


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  • #830
Long time lurker on these threads: For what it's worth, I just am not feeling the boyfriend on this. I've known men like him, very emotional, which I think explains that sweeping, carried away romance, the openness with the media--I'm just not buying that he's involved.

The Ex is where my spidey senses go, and I almost wonder if the plan was to say that she was headed Dallas and then make it look like she got caught in the floods--just IMO. Then again, I'd more expect someone to abandon a car on a roadway and not parked in a Motel parking lot if that were the case--but maybe it was rage and it was an attempt to make her look "seedy. ALL OF THIS IMO. It would be a crime cover up, and before I heard this story, I was wondering if people ever tried to commit, "the perfect murder," when a storm was raging through.

I'm still not so sure it wasn't a stranger abduction or a woman that had a break and walked away. I know everyone says she seemed so happy, and that's possible, but I think there have been times where my mind was all over the place, and people would have thought I was the happiest, most carefree person. She was balancing a lot in the air and maybe she saw the storm as a way to just get away for a bit. Or maybe that's just hopeful thinking.

Possible, but I doubt it. She was supposedly going to Dallas and taking the kids. She didn't have the kids, so no one believed she was heading to Dallas. Maybe if the kids were missing too, that explanation would work.

Dallas doesn't necessarily seem like a lie anyways. The uncle said she didn't tell him anything about it, and she would have if that was her plan.

But, the bf does imply that she indeed had been planning to leave to escape rhe hurricane, then changed her mind and decided to stay in for the weekend with him instead.

I don't recall if bf specifies where she was allegedly going, but he did say that she changed her mind. So, it's not implausible that the ex got a text about her leaving even though she ultimately didn't.

I had some issue with the bf saying that she had been apparently concerned enough to consider leaving town with the kids, then decided to stay, but not to stay with the kids.

I would think you'd want to have your kids with you in a natural disaster, even if you think it's not going to be as bad as you first figured.
 
  • #831
I'm not sure that the fact that the car was backed in means anything. My mom is would always back into a space wherever she went because it was much easier to see if other cars were coming down the aisle if she was pulling out; rather than backing out and trying to see past cars on either side of her.

My mom didn't work at a plant, she was a nurse.
 
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From his work as well?



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Could you link about the confirmation of the video at work? I don't think LE said anything about the work video either. I may have missed it!
 
  • #834
I can tell you that there is a Motel 6 in Kentucky that has been raided twice for meth cooking.
O/t
Fellow Kentuckian on this thread, awesome!

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  • #835
Look at the text message from Crystal at 7:27 which is the billboard picture and then go watch the interview with Paul from september 6th.

Time stamp at works shows him at the jewelry store at 7:30, he claims he got to work at 8:00.

It places Paul right where "Crystal" texted the billboard photo.
Yes but according to nightline (or Nancy Grace?) the sheriff used the footage from his development and traffic cams to determine he got to work around 8.

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  • #836
I may have missed this but why is it important if the BF arrived at work at 7:30 or 8:00am. She left his house at 7:00am. It would take about 12-15 minutes to get to her family home.

The Billboard picture was taken at night. I'm thinking it was taken another time.


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The sheriff has confirmed that she left the boyfriend house about 7:20-7:25 and the boyfriend's left about 30 minutes later. That puts her at the billboard taking the picture and sending it to Jeff and the boyfriend about 7:27am and the boyfriend arriving at work about 8am. They used different surveillance footage to corroborate what his footage showed and what he said.

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  • #837
I don't know these people but I agree with you. Also perhaps Crystal and boyfriend were dating longer -- maybe while divorce was pending; thus, the 4 weeks - 6 weeks and timeframe from BF could be off.

Also - why would the husband send her a text message at 8:05am saying just pick up kids at PNP (his work). He was irritated she hadn't arrived but more importantly those texts were NEVER READ!!

And, so does she have the kids? Are they missing? The husband sends another text about dishwasher but never once asked what happened why she didn't pick up the kids.

I just think that is easy to over analyze all this but go back to what we know! The text messages tell a HUGE STORY!


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How do you know that the ex-husband was irritated with the 8:05am text message? He didn't go sending multiple messages to her about picking up the kids. Didn't use any profanity. Didn't take any digs at her. Didn't even message her in all caps. It could be that Crystal had become unreliable in the days and weeks beforehand (maybe even longer) and this was just another occurrence. And it could also be why he didn't bother with bringing up that she didn't show up to get the kids. We don't even know when was the last time she saw her kids. And we don't even have a way of knowing if it was Crystal that actually sent the messages that morning. There isn't any way to know at this point.

We don't even know where she went after leaving the BFs house because if we take the text times as they were she said she was on her way at 7:01 but doesn't take the photo of the billboard and send the text to the BF until 7:27 yet those two places are not that far apart. She must have went somewhere else in between or took the really, really, scenic route getting there.

LE has not provided any other place she or her car was sighted that morning.

We don't know about any other contacts with any other people.

We don't know what time the last ping from her phone occurred.

We don't know if Crystal ever made it to the ex's house.

We don't know if the ex actually went to his work

If he did we don't even know if he had the kids with him.

We also don't know if Crystal ever went there.

Those messages don't really tell us much except enough to speculate about numerous scenarios that are possible and are valid until any other information comes out that make them impossible.
 
  • #838
How do you know that the ex-husband was irritated with the 8:05am text message? He didn't go sending multiple messages to her about picking up the kids. Didn't use any profanity. Didn't take any digs at her. Didn't even message her in all caps. It could be that Crystal had become unreliable in the days and weeks beforehand (maybe even longer) and this was just another occurrence. And it could also be why he didn't bother with bringing up that she didn't show up to get the kids. We don't even know when was the last time she saw her kids. And we don't even have a way of knowing if it was Crystal that actually sent the messages that morning. There isn't any way to know at this point.

We don't even know where she went after leaving the BFs house because if we take the text times as they were she said she was on her way at 7:01 but doesn't take the photo of the billboard and send the text to the BF until 7:27 yet those two places are not that far apart. She must have went somewhere else in between or took the really, really, scenic route getting there.

LE has not provided any other place she or her car was sighted that morning.

We don't know about any other contacts with any other people.

We don't know what time the last ping from her phone occurred.

We don't know if Crystal ever made it to the ex's house.

We don't know if the ex actually went to his work

If he did we don't even know if he had the kids with him.

We also don't know if Crystal ever went there.

Those messages don't really tell us much except enough to speculate about numerous scenarios that are possible and are valid until any other information comes out that make them impossible.

He appeared irritated when two texts were sent. I think one said, "are you almost here" and just pick them up at PNP. To me, it seemed he was not happy.

The next text that day was about the dishwasher. A person can take that info and arrive at that type of conclusion.





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  • #839
He also claims the time stamp is wrong on that video too.

I hadn't heard that. So, apparently the time stamp was wrong on one of his home cameras, but not the rest of them. Highly unlikely. But, also his work camera is wrong as well? What are the odds of that?

This is a jewelry store that seems to work with high quality expensive gems and jewelry. The security system shouldn't be wrong or glitchy or whatever.

Same goes for his home system as well. I've never had my system time glitch, and it's a $200 system I picked up from amazon.

But, then again, my security footage is also much clearer (you can make out facial details) and it's never suffered from infrared-induced color changes.
 
  • #840
Really?? Getting the exact timeframe of how long they were dating is NOT important.


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Yes it is. It can make all the difference in the world. You need to know about Crystal and what she was up to in the days, weeks, and months leading up to her disappearance. There could be someone from months ago that hasn't even come up yet. It is not uncommon to find that if you start opening up the closets of a victim all kinds of skeletons come falling out and things are not even remotely as they had seemed to be. There is already evidence of secrecy and deception on the part of the victim not too long before she disappeared. The BF story has changed more than once in terms of the length of the relationship.

When you are seeing and hearing deception it is important to learn just why that is. Knowing just how long this relationship has really been going on or even if there were other relationships besides the BF is important. Without knowing these kinds of things you are working with blinders on.
 
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